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MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 12 Apr 2011 13:39

Hi all,

Can anyone please find a Joseph Southway, c1816 wife Eliza c1809-1815 and daughter Ann 1838, possible in Weston Town, Evercreech, Somerset.

I have found them on all other Census.

Thanks, Joy

Flick

Flick Report 12 Apr 2011 13:51

Where was Ann born?

When did Joseph & Eliza marry?

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 12 Apr 2011 13:54

Hi Flick,

They married in 1837 in Evercreech and Ann was born 1838 in Evercreech, Ann died in Australia

Joy

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 Apr 2011 13:56

Could Eliza have been previously married to Charles Garland?

1841 England Census
about Eliza Garland Name: Eliza Garland
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Female
Where born: Somerset, England

Civil parish: Evercreech
Hundred: Wells Forum
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England


Registration district: Shepton Mallet
Sub-registration district: Evercreech
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Garland 32
Eliza Garland 30
Ann Garland 1
William Quane 80



Flick

Flick Report 12 Apr 2011 13:57

For info only..............

Name: Ann Southway
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 23 Sep 1838
Baptism/Christening Place: EVERCREECH,SOMERSET,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Joseph Southway
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Eliza
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C14127-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: unknown
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 12 Apr 2011 14:02

Margee,

No I don't think she was married before.

Sue C

Sue C Report 12 Apr 2011 14:02

Not sure about this, but the age of Joseph is very unclear on the original.
Edit....Not the correct family, have found these on the 1851.

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SOUTHWAY, Joseph M 65 1776 Somerset
SOUTHWAY, Betsy F 45 1796 Somerset
SOUTHWAY, Anna F 6 1835 Somerset
SOUTHWAY, Sarah F 3 1838 Somerset

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
948 Book/Folio:
9/7 Page:
9

Registration District:
Shepton Mallet Sub District:
Stoke Lane Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Stratton on the Foss Municipal Borough:
Address:
Fernhill, Stratton On The Foss County:
Somersetshire

Flick

Flick Report 12 Apr 2011 14:03

Clutching at straws...............with very little confidence

Name: Eliza Southway
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Female
Where born: Somerset, England

Civil parish: Evercreech
Hundred: Wells Forum
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Shepton Mallet
Sub-registration district: Evercreech
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jas Southway 20
Eliza Southway 20
Eliza Southway 2
Nk Southway 3 Weeks (female)


Address looks like Pecking Mill

There is a 'known problem' in 1841 with piece 942, Somerset ....parish Mells

Don't know enough about the County to determine whether that is significant in this case.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 Apr 2011 14:04

There are these children of Joseph & Eliza in Evercreech but no Ann:

SOUTHWAY, John Chr 1837 Engl Some Evercr
Fa: Joseph SOUTHWAY
Mo: Eliza
SOUTHWAY, John Chr 1843 Engl Some Evercr
Fa: Joseph SOUTHWAY
Mo: Eliza
SOUTHWAY, James Chr 1844 Engl Some Evercr
Fa: Joseph SOUTHWAY
Mo: Eliza
SOUTHWAY, Henry Chr 1849 Engl Some Evercr
Fa: Joseph SOUTHWAY
Mo: Eliza
SOUTHWAY, Job Chr 1857 Engl Some Evercr
Fa: Joseph SOUTHWAY
Mo: Eliza

Edit: Wonder if this is one of those cases where male and female baptisms are entered in different books and LDS has only recorded the males. I've come across that before.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 12 Apr 2011 14:09

Do you know that Ann survived past 1841

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 12 Apr 2011 14:09

There are a number of other children - daughters Elizabeth 1841, Mary 1846, Emily 1851, Elizabeth 1854 and son James 1860

Flick

Flick Report 12 Apr 2011 14:11

Ann is on 1851 as a servant, aged 12

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 12 Apr 2011 14:13

Thanks Flick

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 Apr 2011 14:13

Yes, I didn't record James because mother was listed as Elizabeth not Eliza. I still think the listings I have are just male baptisms.

SOUTHWAY, James Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 27 Jun 1860 Recorded in: Evercreech, Somersetshire, England
Father: Joseph SOUTHWAY
Mother: Elizabeth
Source: FHL Film Dates: 1848 - 1881

Flick

Flick Report 12 Apr 2011 14:14

Are these your people in 1851?

Name: Joseph Southway
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Southway
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Evercreech, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Evercreech
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Registration district: Shepton Mallet
Sub-registration district: Stoke Lane
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 120
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Southway 33
Eliza Southway 36
Mary Southway 4
Henry Southway 1


Did Elizabeth 1841 die?

Flick

Flick Report 12 Apr 2011 14:15

I posted Ann''s baptism a while back...................

Flick

Flick Report 12 Apr 2011 14:17

Name: Elizabeth Southway
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 06 Jun 1841
Baptism/Christening Place: EVERCREECH,SOMERSET,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Joseph Southway
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Eliza
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C14127-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: unknown
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
______________________________________________________

Name: Elizabeth Southway
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 10 May 1854
Baptism/Christening Place: EVERCREECH,SOMERSET,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Joseph Southway
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Eliza
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C14127-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: unknown
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 12 Apr 2011 14:17

Glitter Baby,

Ann and her husband Enos Swaine emigrated to Australia in 1862, she died in 1924

Margee, you are probably right.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 Apr 2011 14:18

Ah yes, here's the females:

1. ELIZABETH SOUTHWAY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 06 JUN 1841 Evercreech, Somerset, England

2. ELIZABETH SOUTHWAY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 MAY 1854 Evercreech, Somerset, England

3. EMILY SOUTHWAY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 OCT 1851 Evercreech, Somerset, England

4. ANN SOUTHWAY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 23 SEP 1838 Evercreech, Somerset, England

No Mary though.

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 12 Apr 2011 14:22

Flick, yes they are the right family on the 1851 Census.

Interesting, my gg grandmother was Mary, there are a number of trees that she is not on, now I know why, probably wasn't baptised!!