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willian j lingard . c1864

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Apr 2011 14:15

You're very welcome Tony.

If you want any more help later on you can always get back to this thread in "My Thread Participation" on the left. (Always keep requests for info about the same family on one thread).

Tony

Tony Report 3 Apr 2011 14:07

thank you for your help , i have loads to learn .

thanking you again

tony

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Apr 2011 14:04

Tony - Susan was Maud's grandmother (mother of William John Lingard).

Maud's mother was Ellen Moore, who William married in 1886. (I posted that marriage on page 1).

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Apr 2011 14:01

Can't find a marriage for Susan to William Barnard, but that's not surprising. People often lived together with the woman taking the man's name, particularly if she'd been married before.

Could be her death registered in her first married name:


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915

Name: Susan Lingard
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 59
District: West Ham
County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 27

Tony

Tony Report 3 Apr 2011 14:00

thank you all for your help .
ill print these off and try to put them in order,


can i be sure mauds mother was susan born in orsset essex
thansk again all

regards
tony

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Apr 2011 13:57

Thanks Tony. Her death ties in with the birth year of 1896. The middle initials tie in with the baptism I posted for Maud.


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005

Name: Maud E J Watson
Death Registration Month/Year: 1952
Age at death (estimated): 56
Registration district: Romford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 5a
Page: 534

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Apr 2011 13:51

Possibly Susan in 1841:

SULLINGS, Edward M 35 1806 Essex << Sawyer
SULLINGS, Susanna F 35 1806 Essex
SULLINGS, Ann F 15 1826 Essex
SULLINGS, John M 14 1827 Essex
SULLINGS, Samuel M 12 1829 Essex
SULLINGS, Susanna F 10 1831
SULLINGS, Sarah F 5 1836

Registration District: Orsett Sub District: Orsett

Civil Parish: West Tilbury Municipal Borough:

Address: Cottage, West Tilbury County: Essex

The Samuel with her in 1881 appears to be her brother.

Tony

Tony Report 3 Apr 2011 13:46

she died dec 25 1952 burried in chadwell heath cemerty essex

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Apr 2011 13:43

Tony - do you know when and here Maud died?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Apr 2011 13:42

Maud's baptism?


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Maud Elizabeth Jane Lingard
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 13 Mar 1896
Baptism Date: 29 Mar 1896
Father's Name: William John Lingard
Mother's Name: Ellen Lingard
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bromley St Leonard St Mary
Borough: Tower Hamlets

This would make her 17 when she married. Young, but acceptable.

K

K Report 3 Apr 2011 13:36

Death of George H?

Deaths Mar 1870 (>99%)
Lingard George 47 W. Ham 4a 40

Tony

Tony Report 3 Apr 2011 13:35

flick

i do not have the cert my grand father was robert george watson and married maud, .an yes i think i took her details from the 1911 census.

penny
my name is watson not lingard

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Apr 2011 13:32

I believe this may be the marriage of George and Susan in 1851:

Marriages Sep 1851
LINGARD George Orsett 12 261
SULLINGS Susan Orsett 12 261
Sullins Susan Orsett 12 261

- obviously a variation in spelling of her name. There is a Samuel Sulings as lodger in 1881.

Penny

Penny Report 3 Apr 2011 13:29

'scuse me, are you the Tony Lingard of Lingard motors?

Flick

Flick Report 3 Apr 2011 13:29

Oh dear..........I do worry when people aren't using proven facts on which to base their research

Let's start again.........

Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%)
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Lingard Maud Watson W.Ham 4a 303
Watson Robert Lingard W. Ham 4a 303


Are you guessing that Maud is the one shown on 1911 census?

Or do you have the marriage cert?

She would have been only 16/17 in 1911...........

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Apr 2011 13:29

Tony -you're quite right to digest and do your own verification. Don't be too influenced by info other members have in their trees - you don't know what (if any) checking they may have done.

Flick

Flick Report 3 Apr 2011 13:25

I can see no sign on freebmd of either of Susan's 'marriages'......or of George Henry's death

Tony

Tony Report 3 Apr 2011 13:24

the link to susan . i made a link to roxwell chelmsford but after contacting other memebrs with lingards in roxwell i found it was not the same one i think , i really need to print these details of and try to find the link to each one and confirm at every link . fantastic information and am very greatfull

K

K Report 3 Apr 2011 13:22

1871 - Living next door to William Barnard and family

Name: Willm Lingard
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Susan Lingard
Gender: Male
Where born: Forest Gate, Essex, England
Civil parish: West Ham
Town: Stratford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Stratford
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 120a
Household Members:
Name Age
Susan Lingard 42
Henry G Lingard 16
Susan Lingard 8
Willm Lingard 6
Emma Lingard 4
Waller Lingard 9 Months


MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Apr 2011 13:21

Tony, what are you confused about?

What do you mean by "you make her father wm j lingard"? Don't you have their marriage certificate?