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Henry Birks who was a sergent in the boer war

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jansmith

jansmith Report 13 May 2011 17:02

do any of these fit in the family?
Marriages Jun 1849
Birks William / Shipley Sarah Ann Goole 23 258
Marriages Sep 1909
BIRKS Samuel / SHIPLEY Annie (others on page so might be the right ones) Newcastle L. 6b 122


Marriages Mar 1917
Birks Annie / Thomas Shipley Sheffield 9c 595
Marriages Dec 1937
BIRKS Albert /Olive Shipley Stoke 6b 534

lisa

lisa Report 12 May 2011 21:55

i have hit a dead end with this , so frustrating we have this lovely prayer book with information about the solider henry g birks , the book some how came to our family william shipley and we wondered how ? the book is so intresting ,but we wanted to see if he was related to us .
we really need more information
Unit 2 Battalion Royal Dublin Fusiliers

solider number is 3179
when did he die ???
when was he born ?

Perchino

Perchino Report 19 Mar 2011 20:17

This seems to be the website to verify the entries in the prayer book. Service record should give clue on birth.

How to find army records for the Boer War [Archive] - B-G ...
My wife's ggfather is said to have fought in the Boer War, ... as they would not have been serving soldiers, or what their Queens South ...

www.british-genealogy.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-...

lisa

lisa Report 18 Mar 2011 20:39

JAN SMITH ... I am very sorry it dosen't say when she sorry , but its in his prayer book that was when he was a sergent
he also served in the 1899 boer war thanks

Perchino

Perchino Report 18 Mar 2011 16:58

For guidance:
There were 2 Boer Wars;-
1880-1881
1899-1902

jansmith

jansmith Report 18 Mar 2011 16:31

Does it say when Mary A Birks died?

lisa

lisa Report 18 Mar 2011 16:30

this is so hard ???? can anyone find when henry birks was born for me ??? sorry to be such a pain ???

jansmith

jansmith Report 18 Mar 2011 16:26

As you have an address you could try searching kelly's directories or elect.rolls

MillymollyAmanda

MillymollyAmanda Report 18 Mar 2011 16:23

Name: Henry George Birks
Age at enlistment: 18
Birth Parish: St Paul
Birth County: Stafford
Regimental Number: 8789
Regiment Name: North Staff R
Number of images: 15

There's this one , it might be Henry's son .
Father down as H G Birk deserted the home 26 years ago
Mother Eliza age 50
Sister Minnie Seabridge
Both living 41, Wood St Longton Staff

Also it says cousins to soldier
William Ratcliffe and Joseph Ratcliffe
27, Spring Rd ,Longton Staff

lisa

lisa Report 18 Mar 2011 16:23

thankyou all so much .. its gvin me some promising leads that i need to check out ... we also have the information in the prayer book that mary a birks died as this also als written in this book ..

Astra

Astra Report 18 Mar 2011 16:05

This is confusing

BERKS, William Head M 36 1835 Staffordshire VIEW >>>> Widow Cratemaker born Fenton
REDFERN, William Son M 11 1860 Staffordshire VIEW
REDFERN, Emily Daughter F 9 1862 Scotland VIEW
BERKS, Anna Daughter F 7 1864 Staffordshire VIEW
BERKS, Harriett Boarder F 32 1839 Staffordshire VIEW
BERKS, Ellen Daughter F 13 1858 Staffordshire VIEW
BERKS, Henry G Son M 0 1871 Staffordshire VIEW

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Civil Parish:
Stoke upon Trent Municipal Borough:
Longton Address:
Normacott Road, Stoke Upon Trent, Longton County:
Staffordshire


Which is obviously this family in 1881

BIRKS, William Head Married M 46 1835 Crate Maker
Fenton
Staffordshire VIEW
BIRKS, Ann Wife Married F 37 1844
Stafford
Staffordshire VIEW
BIRKS, Anna Daughter Single F 17 1864 Potts Transferrer
Dresden
Staffordshire VIEW
BIRKS, John Son Single M 14 1867 Potts Transferrer
Dresden
Staffordshire VIEW
BIRKS, Henry G Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar
Longton
Staffordshire VIEW
BIRKS, Mary A Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Dresden
Staffordshire VIEW
BIRKS, Rachel Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar
Fenton
Staffordshire VIEW
BIRKS, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 0 1881
Trentham
Staffordshire VIEW
REDFERN, William Boarder Single M 21 1860 Cratemaker
Longton
Staffordshire VIEW

Trentham Municipal Borough:
Address:
Howard St, Trentham County:
Staffordshire



jansmith

jansmith Report 18 Mar 2011 16:04

http://royaldublinfusiliers.com/

you could try putting a message on the fusiliers web site.
Perhaps he came from Dublin?

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 18 Mar 2011 16:04

If you go to Freebmd and specify marriages for Shipley/Birks in Staffs you will see 2 possibles. This might be the link.

Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%)
BIRKS Samuel Newcastle L. 6b 122
HOBSON James Spencer Newcastle L 6b 122
KAVENEY Mary Ellen Newcastle l. 6b 122
SHIPLEY Annie Newcastle L 6b 122

Marriages Dec 1937 (>99%)
BIRKS Albert Shipley Stoke 6b 534
Shipley Olive Birks Stoke 6b 534

Jan

lisa

lisa Report 18 Mar 2011 15:57

william shipley is a member of my family he past this prayer book to my mum and we have all this information in the prayer book and was wondering what the connection is that his prayer book has been past down through the family

i hope this helps thanks lisa

anymore information would be great ?

lisa

lisa Report 18 Mar 2011 15:57

william shipley is a member of my family he past this prayer book to my mum and we have all this information in the prayer book and was wondering what the connection is that his prayer book has been past down through the family

i hope this helps thanks lisa

anymore information would be great ?

Astra

Astra Report 18 Mar 2011 15:54

1881

BIRKS, William Head Married M 55 1836 Cratemaker
Fenton
Staffordshire VIEW
BIRKS, Ann Wife Married F 49 1842 Potter Paper Cutter
Stafford
Staffordshire VIEW
BIRKS, Mary A Daughter Single F 15 1876 Potter Paper Cutter
Longton
Staffordshire VIEW
BIRKS, Rachel Daughter Single F 14 1877 Potter Paper Cutter
Fenton
Staffordshire VIEW
BIRKS, Elizabeth Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
Longton
Staffordshire VIEW
BIRKS, Annie M Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar
Longton
Staffordshire VIEW
BIRKS, Sarah J Daughter F 3 1888
Longton
Staffordshire VIEW

Civil Parish:
Stoke upon Trent Municipal Borough:
Longton Address:
39, Edward Street, Stoke Upon Trent, Longton County:
Staffordshire

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 18 Mar 2011 15:53

1901 family found by Astra in 1911:

EDWARDS, Herbert Head Married M 31 1880 Coal Miner Coal Longton Staffs VIEW
EDWARDS, Elizabeth Wife Married
8 years F 30 1881 Transferer Potters Below Ground Longton Staffs VIEW
EDWARDS, Lizzie Daughter F 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 Longton Staffs VIEW
BIRKS, William Father In Law Married M 76 1835 Longton Staffs VIEW
BIRKS, Ann Mother In Law Married
40 years F 72 1839 Formerly And Caretaker Not Worked For 3 Yrs Longton Staffs VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
16594 Reference:
RG14PN16594 RG78PN1025 RD361 SD4 ED7 SN239

Registration District:
Stoke upon Trent Sub District:
Longton Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Longton

Address:
38 George Street Longton Stoke-On-Trent County:
Staffordshire

Astra

Astra Report 18 Mar 2011 15:51

1901 census for 21 Charles Street

BIRKS, William Head Married M 66 1835 Cratemaker Potter's
Fenton
Staffordshire VIEW
163 BIRKS, Ann Wife Married F 59 1842
Longton
Staffordshire VIEW
163 BIRKS, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 20 1881 Potter's Transferrer
Longton
Staffordshire VIEW
163 BIRKS, Annie Daughter Single F 17 1884 Potter's Transferrer
Longton
Staffordshire VIEW
163 BIRKS, Sarah Daughter Single F 13 1888
Longton
Staffordshire VIEW
163 BIRKS, Albert Son-In-Law Widower M 28 1873 Joiner
Longton
Staffordshire VIEW
163 BIRKS, William Nephew Single M 2 1899
Longton
Staffordshire VIEW

Civil Parish:
Lonton Municipal Borough:
Address:
21, Charles Street, Lonton, Longton County:
Staffordshire

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 18 Mar 2011 15:49

Possible link??

1911

BIRKS, George Son Single M 31 1880 Carter Longton Staffs VIEW
BIRKS, Eliza Head Widow F 50 1861 Longton Staffs VIEW
BIRKS, Gertrude Daughter Single F 20 1891 Home Cleaning Fenton Staffs VIEW
BIRKS, Tomas Son Single M 18 1893 Collier Wagoner Under Groung Fenton Staffs VIEW
BIRKS, Clara Daughter Single F 16 1895 Cup Handler Fenton Staffs VIEW
BIRKS, Samuel Son M 12 1899 School Fenton Staffs VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
16584 Reference:
RG14PN16584 RG78PN1024 RD361 SD3 ED14 SN132

Registration District:
Stoke upon Trent Sub District:
Fenton Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
Fenton

Address:
7 Charles St Fenton Stoke-On-Trent County:
Staffordshire

Astra

Astra Report 18 Mar 2011 15:48

Who is William Shipley and how is he associated?