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There's a death of Joyce Shepherd in Worksop but she was less than 1.

Deaths Mar 1933 (>99%)
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Shepherd Joyce 0 Worksop 7b 78

Kathleen? But mother's maiden name is given as Chapman:

Births Sep 1927 (>99%)
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Shepherd Kathleen Chapman Worksop 7b 90

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Yorkshire Birth indexes for the years: 1885
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
TANSWELL Sarah E Myton Hull MYT/153/35

(Sarah Elizabeth on freebmd)

on freebmd Worksop is the registration district which inludes Dinnington

So it looks like Tanswell was her maiden name.
1891 census
11 Short St., Kingston upon Hull, Yorkshire
Edward Tanswell, head, 40, labourer (general), born Coventry, Warwicks
Mary A., wife, 41, charwoman, born ?, Norfolk
Hannah, dau, 15, born Hull
Robert, son, 10, born "
David, son, 8, born "
Sarah E., dau. 5, born "

George Tanswell was not actually registered until Dec qtr 1940

Rother V 9c 1365

district of Rother V was not created until 1938 when it became the reg district which included Dinnington

ther are several items people have posted which look positive. the names from madbull alst posted are hot matched they are definately my father's siblings (my dad was definately a jack and not a john).I THINK he was born next, then kathleen. the 2 marriages of charles chapman ans sarahelizabeth Tanswell and Wlater to sarah are the ones I'm searching for. but the walter and sarah 1927 is 2 years after my fathers birth. Did folks really have 4/5 kids in those days before getting married? In answer to madbulls question about sarah's mother being nee Reist that info was passed on by another family member but not 100% but 98% we have always believed this to be correct. She was married toEdward Tansell c1850. i'm sure they lived in Hull but Mary anne could be from Coventry.I would like to find out more about this

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"Sarah Elizabeth Tanswell (neeRiest) Hull? married Charlie Chapman from? Children:- Mary,Doris,Charlie,Phylis,Winnie,Reenie, Maybe from Barton-on-humber."

are you now saying that it was this Sarah's MOTHER who was born Sarah Reist please?

Both the marriages are already posted on p 1

It happened frequently that people did not marry until after children were born. Often the previous husband was still alive at the time they got together and divoerce was tooo expensive for most people

hi folks especially maddie and redbull. Sorry its taken so long,but the information you have given me makes the results of our quest read as follows:-
Walter shepherd marries clara claxton in leeds june 1900 she dies(when?)
Charlie chapman marries sarah elizabeth tanswell (nee RIEST) in hull 1903 he dies (When?)
walter shepherd marries sarah elizabeth in woksop 1927 after several of the children were born!!! but the info all seems legit. now i need to find out more about the chapmans and riests please

But according to the 1891 census Sarah's mother was Mary A. born 1850, Norfolk.

possibly Charles death

Deaths Jun 1918 (>99%)
Chapman Charles H 41 Worksop 7b 45

Do you have any of the children's birth certificates to prove that the names you are following are right please?

madbull, I have sarah's mum as Mary anne (neeRIEST-this si only info given to me by family not from records) and I think she lived in Hull but don,t know where she was born as ai can't find any info on tthe RIEST family don't you think they are the same sarhs? chris shepherd

Madbull

this is what is confusing me

"In answer to madbulls question about sarah's mother being nee Reist that info was passed on by another family member but not 100% but 98% we have always believed this to be correct. She was married toEdward Tansell c1850. i'm sure they lived in Hull but Mary anne could be from Coventry.I would like to find out more about this"

combined with

"Charlie chapman marries sarah elizabeth tanswell (nee RIEST) in hull 1903 he dies (When?)"

I can't find any Tansell / Reist marriages anywhere between 1845 & 1903 and we do have that birth of Sarah Elizabeth TANSELL in 1885

lancashire ann no birth certificates sadly that's the problem but I know for def. that all the children's names are correct and match the right parents chris

But Christine you said right from the beginning that Sarah Elizabeth was nee Reist but now it's her mother who was nee Reist. However I can't find any marriage for Edward Tanswell nor for Mary Reist.

madbull, now I,m confused again! I,ll try again this is what I have:-
walter shepherd marries sarah elizabeth TANSWELL woksop 1927
sarh elizabeth tanswell,s parents-edward tansell (coventry?) married to Mary anne RIEST of coventry the children were born in hull is that better? chris

could the spelling of RIEST be rEIst- and I have ther births c1850 chris

According to the 1881 census Edward & Mary Ann were both born 1850, Edward in Coventry and Mary Ann in Norfolk. Children Hannah 6 and Robert 5 months were born in Hull.

"She was married toEdward Tansell c1850."

did you mean Edward was born 1850?

1881
Edward TANSWELL Head M Male 31 Coventry, Warwick, England Laborer
Mary Ann TANSWELL Wife M Female 31 Norfolk, England
Hannah TANSWELL Daur Female 6 Hull, York, England Scholar
Robert TANSWELL Son Male 5 m Hull, York, England

Source Information:
Dwelling 4 Station Court Canning Street
Census Place Kingston-upon-Hull, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342152
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4769 / 53
Page Number 24

lancashire ann - I think the info on Charles death is positive trying to sort out with madbull now the riests as i made a mess of the info I gave !!! I have mary ann riest from coventry some info posted the other day but madbull htinks norfolk and that could be correct as I have seen some info about Landford brigg and i,ve just looked at the atlas and that;s in norfolk. now madly hunting for that scrap of info I picked up somewhere I've only got about 25 mins as I'm due out to a writing club chris

what a mess I'm making of this! it's a good job your brains are in gear! -yes, I meant born 1850