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SherbitShandy
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16 Feb 2011 03:30 |
the mothers line would do me as well or instead of if thats the case ...thanks so much for your help and thanks for saying you will still look for me
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jax
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16 Feb 2011 03:47 |
Sorry computer went into slow mode just had to close and start again.
No problem ....If I cannot find anything there are others that may see something that my tired eyes cannot
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16 Feb 2011 09:38 |
1891 PERRY, Stephen Head Married M 61 1830 Grocer Oxford VIEW PERRY, Margaret Wife Married F 50 1841 Ireland Dundalk VIEW PERRY, John J Son Single M 18 1873 Apprenticed Piano Forte? Mile End London VIEW PERRY, Robert K G Son M 15 1876 Printer Lithographic Mile End London VIEW PERRY, Arthur F Son M 11 1880 Scholar Mile End London VIEW PERRY, Annie M Daughter F 11 1880 Scholar Mile End London VIEW PERRY, Charles L Son M 13 1878 Scholar Mile End London VIEW RG number: RG12 Piece: 178 Folio: 35 Page: 63 Registration District: Islington Sub District: Highbury Enumeration District: 33 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Barnabas Civil Parish: Islington Municipal Borough: Address: 96, Queensland Road, Islington, London County: London
Name: Annie Magaret Perry Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1880 Baptism Date: 4 Jul 1880 Father's name: Stephen Perry (manager, Piano Forte manufacturers) Mother's name: Margaret Perry Parish or Poor Law Union: Victoria Park St Mark Borough: Tower Hamlets
Chris :)
Sorry, no advance on Henry, or George the Butcher...
1881 PERRY, Stephen Head Married M 50 1831 Clerk Commercial Magdalen Parish Oxfordshire VIEW PERRY, Margaret Wife Married F 41 1840 Ireland VIEW PERRY, Lilly F Daughter Single F 16 1865 Aldershot Middlesex VIEW PERRY, Jane I Daughter Single F 14 1867 Hampton CT Middlesex VIEW PERRY, George H J Son Single M 12 1869 Ireland VIEW PERRY, Stephen W Son Single M 9 1872 Ireland VIEW PERRY, John J Son Single M 7 1874 London Middlesex VIEW PERRY, Robert S G Son Single M 6 1875 London Middlesex VIEW PERRY, Charles S Son Single M 4 1877 London Middlesex VIEW PERRY, Arthur F Son Single M 1 1880 London Middlesex VIEW PERRY, Annie M Daughter Single F 1 1880 London Middlesex VIEW RG number: RG11 Piece: 241 Folio: 18 Page: 27 Registration District: Islington Sub District: Islington West Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Islington Municipal Borough: Address: 13, Barnsbury Grove, Islington County: Middlesex
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Dea
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16 Feb 2011 10:18 |
Same here Chris - this is starting to get frustrating !!!
Dea x
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FannyByGaslight
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16 Feb 2011 13:13 |
Tag for later..;(
1901
PESCOTT, Harry Head Married M 21 1880 Plasterer Holloway London PESCOTT, Annie M Wife Married F 21 1880 Hackney London Registration District: Islington Sub District: Upper Holloway Enumeration District: 59 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Paul Civil Parish: Islington Municipal Borough: Address: 109, Kingsdown Road, Islington County: London
Ooooooo,I used to live in Kingsdown Road years ago...The better end,not the rough end of the 109 area..;)
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Chris Ho :)
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16 Feb 2011 13:30 |
Lol, I've just been through 1871 looking for a Butcher, (with me sandwich), no luck though...
Chris :)
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16 Feb 2011 13:37 |
???
Births Dec 1880 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PESCOTT Henry Martin Islington 1b 345
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FannyByGaslight
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16 Feb 2011 13:38 |
I will take another "butchers"later...Duties call for a few hours....
Been searching for him on 1891,no luck so far...Wonder if Emma married and he is under her new (poss)surname on it?
Life dont half get in the way sometimes..:)
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rootgatherer
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16 Feb 2011 13:43 |
The Henry on the 1881 census that Maureen posted is aged 6 months on the actual image.
The census was taken on 3 April 1881 but there doesn't seem to be a birth corresponding to his age on the census.
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rootgatherer
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16 Feb 2011 13:46 |
I wonder about this one??
Births Dec 1880
PESCOTT Henry Martin Islington 1b 345
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jax
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16 Feb 2011 13:48 |
I have already posted that one Rootgatherer and I cannot see him on any census or death so could be him ??
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Chris Ho :)
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16 Feb 2011 13:55 |
1871 SELFE, John D Head M 31 1840 Middlesex VIEW SELFE, Elizabeth Wife F 23 1848 Surrey VIEW SELFE, Elizabeth Daughter F 1 1870 Middlesex VIEW PEARSON, Sarah P Sister-In-Law F 18 1853 Surrey VIEW REED, Amelia P Nurse F 47 1824 Middlesex VIEW PRESCOTT, Emily Servant F 22 1849 Middlesex VIEW *** FILLBROOK, Mary A Servant F 17 1854 Surrey VIEW RG number: RG10 Piece: 410 Folio: 14 Page: 22 Registration District: Holborn Sub District: Finsbury Enumeration District: 5 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: St Luke Municipal Borough: Address: City Road, St Luke County: London, Middlesex
(wondering if this is the Emma on Maureen's 1881 posted earlier, could be a possible for the witness on Henry's marriage?)...just a thought, lol.
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Chris Ho :)
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16 Feb 2011 14:10 |
Just looking at the Marriage image again, witness Emily's surname does look like Pescott...
Think that 1880 Birth find would be a good buy :-)
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SherbitShandy
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16 Feb 2011 14:13 |
anyone else online who may be able to help on this
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Dea
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16 Feb 2011 14:17 |
That birth for a Henry 'Martin' Pescott spurrs me on to what I have been following all morning!
PROBABLY a 'red herring' - I can't connect it but I can't let it go either !!
Perhaps someone else can explore?
I was following the one of the witnesses at Henry's wedding - Emily Prescott.
I came across 2 likely ones in Islington on 1891 but this one caught my eye as she was living in the same house as a Perry family !
PRESCOTT, Emily Mother Head Widow F 42 1849 Nurse Islington London PRESCOTT, Emily Daughter Single F 10 1881 Islington London PRESCOTT, Annie Daughter F 8 1883 Highgate London PRESCOTT, Alice Daughter F 6 1885 Highgate London MOSS, Maude Visitor Single F 19 1872 Clerkenwell London
RG number: RG12 Piece: 148 Folio: 71 Page:4 Registration District: Islington Sub District: Upper Holloway Enumeration District: 52 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Mark Civil Parish: Islington Municipal Borough: Address: 25, Marcellus Road, Islington, London County: London ....................
NB: Image says PERRY for this family !!! :
PERCY, Walter Head Married M 37 1854 Bricklayer Islington London PERCY, Emma Wife Married F 37 1854 St Pancras London PERCY, Walter S Son M 1 1890 Hornsey Middlesex CLARK, Mary Ann Niece F 17 1874 Islington London
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Same house also has the HUNT family but I have deleted them as probably unconnected. ..............................
I couldn't trace Emily back to 1881 and could find no marriage for an Emily to a Prescott. ............
This is her in 1901 (Name on image says MOSS crossed out on image and replaced by Prescott) !! She has a visitor called Moss on 1891 so this could well be her maiden name? - Again, no marriage!)
1901: PRESCOTT, Emily Head Married F 52 1849 Living On Own Means Highgate London PRESCOTT, Emily Daughter F 19 1882 Highgate London
Ilford Municipal Borough: Address: 68, Blythswood Road, Ilford County: Essex
Note - she is now married but was a widow on 1891?? ........................
This is the marriage of the Walter Perry living in the same house as her on 1891:
Marriages Jun 1887 ***MARTIN Emma Islington 1b 341 ***Perry Walter Islington 1b 341
There was a George MARTIN who was a Butcher in Islington but he was already married?
1881 England Census about George Martin Name: George Martin Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1848 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah Martin Gender: Male Where born: Hampton Wick, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Mary Islington County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 365 New Nth Rd Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Pork Butcher Emplying 1 Man Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington East ED, institution, or vessel: 51 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George Martin 33 Sarah Martin 36 Annie Martin 9 Willie Martin 7 Eliza Martin 6 Rosey Martin 3 Alice Martin
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 264; Folio: 111; Page: 15; GSU roll: 1341057. .......................
Sarah Martin is a 'widow' by 1891?? ...........................
This may all be a load of nonsense and completely unconnected - If so, I will delete it to save confusion but in the absence of anything else to follow, I thought someone might like to help me explore further?
Dea x
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SherbitShandy
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16 Feb 2011 14:18 |
i have the marriage cert for henry/annie and it is a deff prescott for emily...you said 1880 birth is that for henry ? and where would i get it
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jax
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16 Feb 2011 14:21 |
Maybe thats where the Martin as a middle name comes from Dea??
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16 Feb 2011 14:24 |
The marriage cert you have can be viewed on ancestry His name was probably mistranscribed you can purchase the cert from
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
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SherbitShandy
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16 Feb 2011 14:26 |
do you mean i would be able to get his birth and death from there ? exellant, Emma certainly got around
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rootgatherer
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16 Feb 2011 14:29 |
Sorry Jax, I was busy searching when you posted and didn't refressh the page.
On the actual image of the idex it certainly says Pescott and it typewritten. I still think that it is a possibility especially in the absence of anything better!
Dea, I think it is worth leaving that there, at least until something eliminates these people. I am liking the look of George Martin the butcher - especially if the Pescott birth were to turn out to be Prescott!
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