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Maiden name of Hephazibah Wenham b1850.

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Michael

Michael Report 1 Feb 2011 00:00

Can anyone help with this enquiry?
Hephazibah - this spelling seems correct, although the Census makes a "pigs ear" of it down the years - was born 1850 in Hastings/ Battle, Sussex.
She "Married" Frederick Wenham and they had children. BUT i can't find either a marriage entry or a birth entry for her?? HELP!!

Michael.

Mike *

Mike * Report 1 Feb 2011 00:05

It would help if you could give details of the info you found on the censuses down the years... and the childrens names and dates too.

jax

jax Report 1 Feb 2011 00:11

Births Sep 1875 (>99%)
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Wenham Ellen Louise Y Uxbridge 3a 31

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daughters birth

jax

jax Report 1 Feb 2011 00:13

poss

Births Mar 1849 (>99%)
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PAGE Hepzibah Battle 7 305



not to sure of this one as there is a death in 1890

Mike *

Mike * Report 1 Feb 2011 00:16

For reference


Household:1881

Frederick WENHAM Head M Male 31 London Bethnal Green , London, Middlesex, England General Dealer
Ferhibar ? WENHAM Wife M Female 30 Hastings ?, Essex, England
Florence WENHAM Daughter U Female 8 Uxbridge, Middlesex, England
Ellen WENHAM Daughter U Female 5 Uxbridge, Middlesex, England
Ada WENHAM Daughter U Female 3 Uxbridge, Middlesex, England
Ellen CARDER Visitor U Female 53 Islington, Middlesex, England


Dwelling Vine Street
Census Place Uxbridge, Middlesex, England

Mike *

Mike * Report 1 Feb 2011 00:21

Children's birth cert would be the way to go

Births Mar 1873
Wenham Florence Young - Uxbridge 3a 34

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 1 Feb 2011 00:21

interesting coincidence

Marriages Dec 1868
Britt John Alfred Battle 2b 85
French Susan Battle 2b 85
Huggett Hephzibah Battle 2b 85 ?
Wenham James Robert Battle 2b 85 ?

it's around the right time and right place

but definitely the children's birth certificate is the way to go

chrissie x

Mike *

Mike * Report 1 Feb 2011 00:25

About the right age but Born Middlesex


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Births Sep 1851
Huggett Hepzibah - St Lukes 2 332

jax

jax Report 1 Feb 2011 00:27

1861 says born Battle so looks good

Name: Hephzibah Huggett
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Henry Huggett
Mother's name: Hannah Huggett
Gender: Female
Where born: Battle, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Battle
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Battle
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Huggett 42
Hannah Huggett 42
Herbert Huggett 19
Frederick Huggett 16
Hephzibah Huggett 12
Ambrose Huggett 10
Henry Huggett 9
Ellen Huggett 8
Emma Huggett 6
Fanny Huggett 4
George Huggett 2
Luihan Huggett 1

Mike *

Mike * Report 1 Feb 2011 00:28

???????????????????


Births Mar 1849
HARDING Hephzibah Anna - Hastings 7 424


EDIT.
No ..... this looks like her marriage

Marriages Dec 1870 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BUMSTEAD Albert John Hastings 2b 39
Ernsting John Lowe Hastings 2b 39
Harding Hepzibah Anna - Hastings 2b 39
Pelford Elizabeth Hastings 2b 39

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 1 Feb 2011 00:33

the only birth in Hastings that could match

Births Mar 1849
HARDING Hephzibah Anna Hastings 7 424

Marriages Dec 1870
BUMSTEAD Albert John Hastings 2b 39
Ernsting John Lowe Hastings 2b 39 <<<
Harding Hepzibah Anna Hastings 2b 39 <<<
Pelford Elizabeth Hastings 2b 39

in 1871

Name: Hepzibah A Ernsting
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John L Ernsting ......... tailor born in Hastings abt 1851
Gender: Female
Where born: Hastings, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Magdalene
Town: Hastings
County/Island: Sussex

Births Jun 1850
Ernsting John Sowe Hastings 7 425

but no death for him or for Hephzibah Ernsting ?

HepHzibah really is an unuzsal spelling. with the middle H

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 1 Feb 2011 00:35

so my first guess is the one everyone likes, lol ?

Marriages Dec 1868
Britt John Alfred Battle 2b 85
French Susan Battle 2b 85
Huggett Hephzibah Battle 2b 85 ?
Wenham James Robert Battle 2b 85 ?

are we looking at travellers of some variety, general dealer in 1881 .......... ?

Michael

Michael Report 1 Feb 2011 00:40

Cheers People!!!!
Will obviously need time to digest all this info, but it looks GOOD at 1st glance.

M.

Mike *

Mike * Report 1 Feb 2011 00:40

James Robert Wenham--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth: 18 NOV 1846 All Saints, Hastings, Sussex, England

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Parents:
Father: James Wenham
Mother: Eliza



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Deaths Sep 1869
Wenham James Robert - 23 - Hastings 2b 10

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 1 Feb 2011 00:40

amazing coincidences

in 1871

is this Hep* Page?

Name: Hephzibah Wenham
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Battle, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: London
County/Island: London

Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Mudge 43
Rose E J Mudge 8
Caroline S Eldridge 42
Hephzibah Wenham 23 WIDOW
Emily C Page 18 unmarried




this has confused me ......... it looks like Hep* Page married a Wenham unless it is just a coincidence that Emily Page with her .........


no no I see I think ........ Wenham husband of Huggett died? and she lived with his brother maybe? and Emily Page is not related ..............

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 1 Feb 2011 00:45

yes so far

Deaths Sep 1869
Wenham James Robert 23 Hastings 2b 10


oops Mike added that

was it still against the law to marry your dead husband's brother ? or was that just your dead wife's sister .............

Mike *

Mike * Report 1 Feb 2011 00:49

We are assuming that James and Frederick were brothers but I can't see a birth for Frederick Wenham c1850 Bethnal Green

Mike *

Mike * Report 1 Feb 2011 00:50

Just to confuse matters ....
Is this widow Mrs Wenham ?

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Marriages Mar 1876 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

HARRIYOTT Emma Eastbourne 2b 93
Lewis Amos Eastbourne 2b 93
Mancer Henry Eastbourne 2b 93
Wenham Hephzibah Eastbourne 2b 93
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Household:1881

Henry MANSER Head M Male 27 Willingdon, Sussex, England Blacksmith
************** Hephizibah MANSER Wife M Female 25 Hellingly, Sussex, England
Edwin MANSER Son Male 4 Eastbourne, Sussex, England
Rosa MANSER Daur Female 2 Eastbourne, Sussex, England
Frederick MANSER Son Male 6 m Eastbourne, Sussex, England

Michael

Michael Report 1 Feb 2011 00:56

Cheers again People XLNT effort!!

To use a "Loydism", having cogitated and conferred, I'm going with the Huggett connection.

Ta, Michael.

Mike *

Mike * Report 1 Feb 2011 01:11

Just to eliminate Miss Page born 1849 .....

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Household:1881

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Amelia HARRIS Head U Female 33 Yalding, Kent, England Greengrocer
Margarett ASHBY Friend U Female 52 Yalding, Kent, England
Mary GILBERT Cousin U Female 40 Yalding, Kent, England Assistant Greengrocer
************Hephsibah PAGE Cousin U Female 32 Bexhill, Sussex, England Dress Maker
David ASHBY Serv Male 14 East Farleigh, Kent, England Errand Boy
Frederick ROBINSON Boarder Male 13 Orpington, Kent, England Errand Boy


Dwelling 23 Market Place
Census Place Greenwich, Kent, England