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Minnie was my great grandmonther born London, Pancras, 7th August 1881.She had 2 brothers Harry and Bon and married Herbert Owen Wells in late 1902. They had a son Raymond Owen in 1908 (my grandad). She died in November 1976 and I am stuggling to find out anything about her parents, brothers or ancestory. She is listed married to Herbert in the 1911 census but no luck with anything earlier.

Can anyone help me, it is an unusual name so I thought it would be easy!

This from Ancestry and gives you her father's name:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Minnie Sophia Frier
County: London
Spouse Name Spouse Age
Name: Minnie Sophia Frier
Spouse: Herbert Owen Wells
Father: Robert Agar Frier
Birth: year
Marriage: date - city, London


Maybe somebody could look up the image to see what other info there is.

Whoops brother Bob, not Bon!

Her birth registration - the certificate will give you her mother's maiden name:

Name: Minnie Sophia Frier
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Pancras (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 74

Name: Minnie Sophia Frier
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1883
Baptism Date: 14 Nov 1883
Father's name: Robert Frier (occ. Photographer)
Mother's name: Alice Frier
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hoxton St John
Borough: Hackney

Chris :)

If anyone else can give any more info this would be fantastic!

Possibly her baptism - again I cannot view the image:

Name: Minnie Sophia Frier
Mother: Alice Frier
Father: Robert Frier
Birth: year
Baptism: date - city, Middlesex

How do I get hold of this image to view? I am fairly new to this so any tips would be helpful

I may well now be able to go back further through the Frier line so very many thanks for this, really helpful :-)

1911

WELLS, Herbert Oman Head Married M 35 1876 Commercial Traveller Surrey Craydon VIEW
WELLS, Minnie Sophia Wife Married
10 years F 29 1882 London St Pancras VIEW
WELLS, Alice Maud Sister Single F 37 1874 Waitress London Holloway VIEW
WELLS, Irene Eleanor Mason Niece F 4 1907 London Hackney VIEW
WELLS, Raymond Felix Oman Son M 2 1909 Essex Ilford VIEW

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
9907 Reference:
RG14PN9907 RG78PN521B RD191 SD2 ED58 SN214

Registration District:
Romford Sub District:
Ilford Enumeration District:
58 Parish:
Ilford

Address:
14 Ashgrove Road Good Mayes County:
Essex


Name: Henry George Frier
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1897
Baptism Date: 7 Oct 1897
Father's name: Robert Frier (occ. Photographer)
Mother's name: Alice Frier
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lorrimore Square St Paul
Borough: Southwark


1901 Census

FRIER, Robert Head Married M 38 1863 Photographer
Shoreditch
London VIEW
FRIER, Alice Wife Married F 38 1863
St Martins
London VIEW
FRIER, Henry Son M 13 1888
Stoke Newington
London VIEW
FRIER, Albert E Son M 1 1900
Walworth
London VIEW

RG number:
RG13 Piece:
398 Folio:
7 Page:
5

Registration District:
St Olave Southwark Sub District:
Rotherhithe Enumeration District:
8 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Barnabas

Civil Parish:
Rotherhithe Municipal Borough:
Address:
46, Plough Road, Rotherhithe County:
London
1911

FRIER, Robert Head Married M 49 1862 Photograper London; Shoreditch VIEW
FRIER, Alice Wife Married
29 years F 49 1862 London; Bloomsbury VIEW
FRIER, Robert Son Married M 26 1885 Photographic Binder London; St Paneras VIEW
FRIER, Florence Daughter In Law Married F 21 1890 Sutton; Surrey VIEW
FRIER, Henry Son Single M 23 1888 Harness Making London; Stoke Herington VIEW
FRIER, Edward Son M 12 1899 School London; Walworth VIEW
FRIER, Victor Son M 8 1903 School London; Bermondsey; VIEW
FRIER, Louise Daughter F 6 1905 School Essex; Walthamstow VIEW

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
7730 Reference:
RG14PN7730 RG78PN381 RD140 SD3 ED9 SN213

Registration District:
Watford Sub District:
Rickmansworth Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
Chorleywood

Address:
North Road Chorleywood County:
Hertfordshire

(image says married 29 yrs, 6 children born, 6 living)

Hi Chris, I had discounted the 1901 census as no minnie sophia and not sure that Henry and Albert could be the uncles I know as Harry and Bob. Now I know that Robert and Alice were her parents this looks like it may be the right family.

I will try to follow this lead back, thank you so much everyone. I am already trying to find Robert Frier (minnie sophia's Dad) this is all very exciting for me. It seems there may be a Scottish connection for Robert but not too sure yet.

:-) thanks

No luck as yet finding Minnie on 1901...you could be right with Scottish connection...

1871

FRIER, Margaret Head F 49 1822 Scotland VIEW (Widow)
FRIER, Adam Son M 22 1849 Scotland VIEW
FRIER, John Son M 13 1858 Middlesex VIEW
FRIER, Francis Son M 11 1860 Middlesex VIEW
FRIER, Margaret Daughter F 6 1865 Middlesex VIEW
FRIER, Robert Son M 8 1863 Middlesex VIEW

RG number:
RG10 Piece:
451 Folio:
75 Page:
37

Registration District:
Shoreditch Sub District:
Hoxton New Town Enumeration District:
27 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
St Leonard Shoreditch Municipal Borough:
Address:
Craven St, St Leonard Shoreditch

If this is right, and I think it could be, then Minnie Sophia was the oldest born in 1881. She may have been the oldest of these 6 children and was obviously married by 1911 census to Herbert Wells. I had an Aunt Louise who was also much much younger so this would be right, Robert and Henry (assume Uncles Bob and Harry). I have no idea about Edward and Victor but am now very curious.

If anyone else can help with anything else please do :) this is great

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(above link will help you find Births, Marriages, Deaths)


Name: Robert Frier
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1862
Baptism Date: 18 May 1862
Father's name: George Frier
Mother's name: Margaret Frier
Parish or Poor Law Union: Finsbury St Luke
Borough: Islington

(image says Born 19th April, fathers occ. Smith. 33 Craven St.)

(above image from Ancestry)

1851 - All born Edinburgh

Name: Adam Frier
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relationship: Son
Father's name: George Frier
Mother's name: Margt Frier
Gender: Male
Where born: Edinr, Mid L
Parish Number: 685/1
Civil Parish: Edinburgh High Church
County: Midlothian
Address: 12 Royal Exchange
ED: 5
Page: 7 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 29
Line: 6
Roll: CSSCT1851_179
Household Members: Name Age
George Frier 29 Smith Monld Maker (journeyman)
Margt Frier 29
Eliz Frier 7
Adam Frier 1
Janet Frier 3

Source Citation: Parish: Edinburgh High Church; ED: 5; Page: 7; Line: 7; Roll: 520; Year: 1851.

Re the marriage Potty mentioned, have checked the image:

Name: Minnie Sophia Frier - NURSE
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Spouse Name: Herbert Owen Wells - COMMERCIAL TRAVELLER
Spouse Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1903
Parish: St Michael Cornhill
County: London
Borough: City of London
Father Name: Robert Agar Frier - PHOTOGRAPHER
Spouse Father Name: Samuel Wells - SURVEYOR

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index

GEORGE FRIER Pedigree
Male Family
Marriages:
Spouse: MARGARET CASSIE Family
Marriage: 20 JAN 1843 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

RE the baptism Potty posted:

Name: Minnie Sophia Frier
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1883
Baptism Date: 14 Nov 1883
Father's name: Robert Frier
Mother's name: Alice Frier
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hoxton St John
Borough: Hackney

Birthdate 7th Aug 1881. Father's occ. Photographer. Address:69 Torrens Building.

better and better, can you tell I am quite excited?! I will now try to follow some of the helpful links you have all provided. George Frier appears to have died quite young as Margaret is listed as a widow in 1871 census.

Are there separate records for Scotland?

Couple of possibles for George in 1841 but my money is on this one going by the father's name and occupation and the name of his brother.

Name: George Frier
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Midlothian, Scotland

Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 73 Crosscauseway
Occupation: Bk Smith Ap
Parish Number: 685/2
Household Members: Name Age
Adam Frier 40 Blacksmith
Jess Frier 40
Robert Frier 20
George Frier 15
John Frier 15

Source Citation: Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts; ED: 45; Page: 9; Line: 1120; Roll: ; Year: 1841.