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hi sorrow Flick said Hannah was liveing in 1851 with Willian age 33 Ann age 30 James age 1 Edward 1 mo Hannah SON i Look on my Family tree to see if i had any Hadfields But the only one i have was Mary so i dont know if same family

How have you associated Hannah Schofield with the Hannah married to William Shaw?


This Hannah was born Chadderton


1851 England Census
about Betty Shaw
Name: Betty Shaw
Age: 9/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: William Shaw
Mother's name: Hannah Shaw
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Chadderton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Oldham Below Town
Ecclesiastical parish: St Johns North Chadderton
Town: Oldham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England



Registration district: Oldham
Sub-registration district: Oldham Below Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 1j
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 72
Household Members:
Name Age
William Shaw 30
Hannah Shaw 25
Betty Shaw 9/12

Christine

Shaw??? Travis???

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1847
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SHAW William TRAVIS Hannah Oldham, St. Mary Oldham CE235/8/327

I was sent info saying Hannah Schofield born 1828 married Willian Shaw he was born 1821.Then someone said they had a match but she married a Travis Thanks for your help

You should never rely on info from other people if they don't give you PROOF of what they say.

How does Hannah fit into your family tree?

What research have you done yourself on the lady?

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Have you done anything about looking on freebmd for a marriage for Hannah?

Or on Lancsbmd?

Thanks Flick,I stared doing my family tree last year never been on a com, before so i look for my grandmothers father James Schofield 1864 got his marriage and birth certificates, then got his father's name James Schofield 1823, so when someone let me look at there tree and had same names and dates i look up i took it to be right ,I am sorrow to confuse you and anybody else .Thanks

OK..........so let's start researching based facts, shall we? (No need to be sorry.........!)

Where was James born in 1864?

Who was his mother?

Is this the right one in 1871?

Name: James Schofield
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's name: James Schofield
Gender: Male
Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Oldham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Oldham
Sub-registration district: Oldham Below Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Household schedule number: 70
Household Members: Name Age
James Schofield 48 ....................born MIDDLETON...Lancs
Edmund Schofield 9
James Schofield 6
Martha Bang 41

Is this the birth for which you have the cert?

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1864

SCHOFIELD James Oldham Below Town Oldham NEWTON OBT/66/452

The one i have 1871 census is Tunnel st Oldham James a widower age 47,Chares age 21 Thomas age 18 Mary Ann age 15 James age 7 Catherine age 4 Mary Travis mother in law age 70

Please answer my question about the name of the mother on the birth cert................

This one, then, in 1871?

Name: James Schofield
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Janes Schofield
Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Oldham
Sub-registration district: Oldham Below Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Household schedule number: 251
Household Members: Name Age
Janes Schofield 47 born ROYTON
Charles Schofield 21
Thomas Schofield 18
Mary Ann Schofield 15
James Schofield 7
Catherine Schofield 4
Mary Travis 70

James schofield was born in Oldham 1864 his mother was Catherine Travis

1861

Name: Charles Schofield
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's name: James Schofield
Mother's name: Catherine Schofield
Gender: Male
Where born: Royton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Oldham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: Oldham
Sub-registration district: Oldham Below Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 58
Household Members: Name Age
James Schofield 38
Catherine Schofield 37
Charles Schofield 11
Thomas Schofield 9
Mary Hannah Schofield 6

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Marriages Dec 1846 (>99%)
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Clayton Samuel Manchester 20 595
Massey William Manchester 20 595
Schofield James Manchester 20 595 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Schofield James Manchester 20 595
Smith John Manchester 20 595
Travis Catharine Manchester 20 595 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

The marriage cert would tell you the name of James's father...........

1851

Name: Catherina Schofield
[Catherina Travis]
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: James Schofield
Mother's name: Mary Travis
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Royton
Ecclesiastical parish: Royton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Oldham
Sub-registration district: Royton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 68
Household Members: Name Age
James Schofield 27 b. Crompton
Catherina Schofield 26
Mary Travis 50
Hannah Shaw 23
Mary Travis 19
Theaon Travis 14
Charles Schofield 1

At least this - 1841 census - seems to verify that James had a sister Hannah

Name: Jas Schofield
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Prestwich Cum Oldham
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Ashton and Oldham
Sub-registration district: Oldham below Town
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jno Schofield 50
Jas Schofield 18
Edwd Schofield 17
Hannah Schofield 13

This appears to match the Hannah in 1851 with the illegitimate son - especially as she named her son Edward

Don't let yourself be sidetracked by the names of her cousins......they are not relevant to your search at present

I suspect this record was poster earlier, but it's in context now...............

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1846
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SCHOFIELD James TRAVIS Catharine Manchester Collegiate Church (later Manchester Cathedral) Manchester CATH/55/110

could confusion have been caused by both James Schofield and his wife Catherine Travis possibly both having a sister born c 1837 called Hannah?

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1847
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SHAW William TRAVIS Hannah Oldham, St. Mary Oldham CE235/8/327

the Hannah Shaw in 1851?