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13 Jan 2011 01:33 |
Looking for Florence Chorlotte Cook, (formally Jones) She married John George Cook about 1907 they lived in Stepney London. They had one child, Albert John Cook born about 1910 Also in the same household were stepchildren, Edith Florence Jones, Cyrul Arthur Jones, Dorothy Daury Jones, I asume they were related to my grandmother Winifred May Jones born 1905 she is also down as a stepchild aged 6 Maybe someone can help me with this puzzle as my nan was adopted out later on to Warwick and I think that this Jones was her real mum. Thank You
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Lynski
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13 Jan 2011 01:49 |
For reference - 1911 census COOK, John George Head Married M 45 1866 Warehouseman Shoreditch London COOK, Florence Charlotte Wife Married 4 years F 42 1869 Stepney London JONES, Edith Florence S Daughter Single F 19 1892 Bookbinder Stepney London JONES, Cyril Arthur Stepson Single M 16 1895 Errand Boy Stepney London JONES, Dorothy Dawny Stepdaughter F 9 1902 Stepney London JONES, Winifred May Stepdaughter F 6 1905 Stepney London COOK, Albert John Son M 1 1910 Stepney London RG number: RG14 Piece: 1594 Reference: RG14PN1594 RG78PN56 RD21 SD1 ED23 SN190 Registration District: Mile End Old Town Sub District: Mile End Old Town South Western Enumeration District: 23 Parish: Mile End Old Town Address: 5 Senrat Street County: London
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Lynski
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13 Jan 2011 01:52 |
1901 census - JONES, Arthur James Head Married M 38 1863 Cook & Confectioner Eton Buckinghamshire JONES, Florence Charlotte Wife Married F 33 1868 Stepney London JONES, Edith F Daughter Single F 10 1891 Stepney London JONES, Cyril Arthur Son Single M 8 1893 Stepney London
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG13 Piece: 328 Folio: 100 Page: 24 Registration District: Mile End Old Town Sub District: Mile End Old Town Western Enumeration District: 24 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Thomas Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town Municipal Borough: Address: 5, Senrab Street, Mile End Old Town County: London
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Carolyn
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13 Jan 2011 01:52 |
John George Cook married Florence Charlotte Jones - Dec qtr 1906 - Mile End district - Ref. 1c 706. This is from the Free BMD site.
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Carolyn
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13 Jan 2011 01:57 |
Arthur James Jones married Florence Charlotte Norman - Dec qtr 1890 - Mile End district - Ref. 1c 966. Also from Free BMD site.
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Carolyn
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13 Jan 2011 02:05 |
Birth of Florence Charlotte Norman - Sept qtr 1868 -Mile End Old Town district - Ref.1c 504.
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Lynski
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13 Jan 2011 02:36 |
Could it be possible that one or both of the parents died after 1911 and she was adopted out because of that?
Do you know anything about the other children?
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13 Jan 2011 02:51 |
How do you know this Winifred May Jones is yours? Do you have her marriage cert?
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LadyKira
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13 Jan 2011 02:54 |
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Cyril Arthur Jones Name: Cyril Arthur Jones Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1894 Baptism Date: 16 Sep 1894 Father's name: Arthur James Jones Mother's name: Florence Charlotte Jones Parish or Poor Law Union: Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints Borough: Tower Hamlets born 15th aug 1894 5 senrab street father is a chef
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Lynski
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13 Jan 2011 03:03 |
There are 3 Winifred May's born in London between 1903 and 1906 -
Births Mar 1905 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jones Winifred May Mile End 1c 434 Jones Winifred May St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 487
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1905 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jones Winifred May Fulham 1a 242
Do you know which one is yours? Do you have her birth cert?
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Susan
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13 Jan 2011 03:14 |
First marriage
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Arthur James Jones Name: Arthur James Jones Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Spouse Name: Florence Charlotte Norman Spouse Age: 22 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 21 Dec 1890 Parish: St Thomas, Stepney County: London Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: William Jones Spouse Father Name: George Thomas Norman
Witts George Thomas Norman Alice Sarah Norman
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Susan
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13 Jan 2011 03:19 |
Second marriage
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about John George Cook Name: John George Cook Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Spouse Name: Florence Charlotte Jones Spouse Age: 38 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 23 Dec 1906 Parish: St Thomas, Stepney County: London Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: John Cook Spouse Father Name: Thomas Norman Florence is a widow in the original image ,John is a soldier.
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JaneyCanuck
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13 Jan 2011 03:25 |
When you say "adopted out to Warwick", do you mean to the place, or that the adoptive parents were named Warwick?
As much info as you can give, it will all help. Under what name did your nan marry, and when, where and to whom? for instance.
Three people have a Winifred Warwick born 1904 in Pimlico, or in "unknown", in their trees here at GenesReunited. Is that your Winifred?
This is sister Daisy of the 1911 Winifred, her correct name:
Births Sep 1902 Jones Dorothy Daisy Mile End 1c 420
so this would be that Winifred:
Births Mar 1905 Jones Winifred May Mile End 1c 434
(Mile End was previously Stepney district)
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Susan
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13 Jan 2011 04:06 |
This looks like the correct one
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Winifred May Jones Name: Winifred May Jones Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1905 Baptism Date: 15 Mar 1905 Father's name: Arthur Jones Mother's name: Florence Jones Parish or Poor Law Union: Stepney St Thomas Borough: Tower
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Susan
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13 Jan 2011 04:18 |
Only one that fits for Edith
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Edith Florence Jones Name: Edith Florence Jones Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1891 Baptism Date: 20 Dec 1891 Father's name: Arthur James Jones Mother's name: Theresa Charlotte Jones
Edite On looking at original image for that bapts it is Florence not Theresa. This is the correct bapts Parish or Poor Law Union: Stepney St Thomas Borough: Tower Hamlets
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Susan
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13 Jan 2011 04:34 |
Dorothys bapts
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Dorothy Daisy Jones Name: Dorothy Daisy Jones Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1902 Baptism Date: 20 Jul 1902 Father's name: Arthur Jones Mother's name: Florence Charlotte Jones Parish or Poor Law Union: Stepney St Thomas Borough: Tower Hamlets
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Susan
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13 Jan 2011 05:06 |
This looks like Florences parents and family in 1871.
1871 England Census about Florence C Norman Name: Florence C Norman Age: 2 Months Estimated birth year: abt 1871 Relation: Daughter Father's name: George T Norman Mother's name: Sarah Norman Gender: Female Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Mile End Old Town County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Household schedule number: 173 Household Members: Name Age George T Norman 28 Sarah Norman 26 Florence C Norman 2 Months Amelia F Norman 5 Alice S Norman 11 Months Alfred Norman 20 <<<<< Brother to George T
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ChristineinPortugal
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13 Jan 2011 08:26 |
Marie had another thread on chat a couple of days ago but hasn't been back to it.
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/chat/thread/1254889
This is what she posted.
My nan's marriage cert says maiden name Warwick (formally Jones). so I looked up Jones and found the family, The couple (Mr and Mrs Jones) had been married only 4 years with own child aged 1 (Ref: 1911 census) also living in the house were stepchildren ages 6-19 (my nan being 6yrs old). Nan was born 1905 I am finding it hard to get my head round the above, because to add to my confusion, I think she later adopted by Mr and Mrs Warwick, She never mention the name Jones during her lifetime and all papers she had were for Warwick. (Plus I know my nan had a brother Fred Warwick- but he may have been her half brother or step bother, It all seem straight-forward until I read the 1911 census saying stepdaughter to Jones. (nan said her mum died young and we assumed she meant Mrs Warwick!) can anyone help Please?
I presume this must be the marriage she refers to.
Name: Winifred M Warwick Spouse Surname: Stevens Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1936 Registration district: Islington Registration county (inferred): Middlesex Volume Number: 1b Page Number: 383
Name: Leonard W Stevens Spouse Surname: Jones Or Warwick Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1936 Registration district: Islington Registration county (inferred): Middlesex Volume Number: 1b Page Number: 383
I have sent her a pm advising how to get back to the threads.
Christine
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Island
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13 Jan 2011 09:32 |
Marie Would you mind acknowledging posts on your thread in chat on the same subject.
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Marie
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14 Jan 2011 01:07 |
Thank You all for so much help, I will search through the info and try and match it to my nan, I do not know for sure if the Winifred May Jones I have found is the right one, and no way of knowing unless someone else in the Jones or Cook family knows the real story, e.g.: maybe one of the other siblings past on info about what happened to them all, e.g.: Winifred being adopted out to a couple named Warwick. (Maybe the mother or father died and they were all adopted out). I know her adopted parents Warwick did not want people to know she was adopted and so my nan pretended for so long that Warwick was her real parents she never spoke of her real parents or any siblings, but she was young and may not have remembered or told to forget.. There were older children living with Mr and Mrs Cook and I am hoping they know what happened and pass the info on. My nan was born 9th Feb 1905, I will order a copy of her brith cert befpre procedding. Thanks all once again your all so helpful.
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