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Please , where do i find these papers for my great grandfather , Douglas Leuty , he was born Robinson . Think he changed his name to his bio father when he joined army ,abt 1900 , maybe earlier , but need papers .
many thanks

which country are you talking about?

Military records are held at Kew (National Archives ) Ancestry has WW1 and USA Draft documents

But be aware that many UK documents were burnt during the blitz in WW2 and only about 60% remain

IF........this is the man..there are no surviving WW1 records.

This is all that's on Ancestry

British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
Name: Douglas Charles Leuty
Regiment or Corps: 3 KRRC
Regimental Number: 10205

Is this his marriage?

Name: Douglas C Leuty
Spouse Surname: Resbury
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1921
Registration district: Camberwell
Registration county (inferred): Surrey
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 1727
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

1901 census

Name: Douglas Leuty
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Annie Leuty
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, London, England

Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Camberwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 251
Household Members: Name Age
Douglas Leuty 29
Annie Leuty 33
Cyril Leuty 3/12
Violet Leuty 3/12
Douglas L Leuty 7


Mmmmmmmmm...........probably NOT

Marriage of parents as per 1901

Annie Cann 1894 St Saviour Southwark London, Surrey
Douglas Leuty 1894 St Saviour Southwark London, Surrey

Perhaps it was the Douglas Leuty born 1872 that changed his name from Robinson - the original marriage certificate to Annie Cann gives his occupation as soldier. Father's name is given as William Leuty, deceased - occupation chemist.

1901 census gives birthplace for Douglas Leuty senior as Lambeth but I can't see any births for a Douglas Leuty at all. It also gives Douglas Leutys occupation as Sergeant in the Army Pay Corps.

There are, however, these two Douglas Robinson births in 1872

Births Jun 1872
ROBINSON Douglas St. Saviour 1d 145

Births Sep 1872
Robinson Douglas Charles Edmonton 3a 192

Not sure which would be closest to Lambeth though.

Found this baptism for a Douglas Leaty Robinson, although the original looks more like Leuty

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Douglas Leaty Robinson
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1874
Baptism Date: 7 Sep 1874
Father's name: Thomas William Robinson
Mother's name: Elizabeth Robinson
Parish or Poor Law Union: Christ Church, Albany Street
Borough: Camden

Date of birth - 23.03.1872

Father's occupation given as chemist.

Valid point CB, about the father being the person in question, but unless Margaret decides to return, we're speculating

That said, it does all seem to tie in quite nicely............

It would appear that the name change came about when he married.....

This is 1891 for the second of the births posted above

Name: Douglas Charles Robinson
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Fanny Robinson
Gender: Male
Where born: Hornsey, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 16 and 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Fanny Robinson 43 Married, born Brighton
Douglas Charles Robinson 18 Stockbroker's Clerk
Clara Harrall 25
Emma A Lanton 28
Elijh Wilsons Tewart 31

As this man was a soldier long before WW1, you will need to access the national Archives site for any possible records for him

The child's birth may not have been registered..........pre-1875,and especially in view of the circumstances of his birth

Cracking find.....the baptism!

1881?

Name: Douglas Robinson
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Elizabeth Robinson
Gender: Male
Where born: Newington, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Newington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 38 Sturgeon Rd
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Mary Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 5b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Robinson 30 born EXETER
Douglas Robinson 9
Edith Robinson 6

Elizabeth claims to be a widow

Hi, ok, thank you , Douglas Leuty was married to Annie as per 1901 census, his was born 1872 St Saviour, Baptised, Camden as CherryBlossom has written , The Douglas C Leuty was his son.

This baptism for Douglas's sister Edith is interesting

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Edith Lydia Robinson
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1875
Baptism Date: 5 Apr 1875
Mother's name: Elizabeth Robinson
Parish or Poor Law Union: Christ Church, Albany Street
Borough: Camden

Date of birth - 16.12.1874



On the original the father's name was originally given as Thomas William Neuty (??Leuty) and has then been crossed out. The mother, Elizabeth Robinson is listed as a spinster.

You should have told us ALL you knew.....instead of letting us waste time finding that which you already KNEW

CB......looks like it was all wasted effort......how utterly infuriating!

May i just add so people don't think i am an idiot or something , Robinson was not his fathers name it was his mothers birth name .

Well i am so sorry to have wasted your time then , but i did not ask for his detail's , i only asked where i could find his military papers .

Hi Flick - the 1881 census was the one I was drawn to....

In 1891 Elizabeth and Annie are still living together but there is no Douglas with them. I can't see either a Douglas Leuty or Robinson that fits the bill in 1891 so perhaps he had already enlisted and had changed his name????

Hi Margaret

It might be worth having a look at the national archives records to see if you can find anything for Douglas Leuty as Flick suggested.

I quite enjoyed working out the puzzle, so no worries Margaret....