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Victoria I am a relative (great-great grand-daughter of Joseph Campbell who was the son of Mary Campbell and who married Ellen Noon. They lived in Holyhead and were in the cattle trade - a couple of Jospeh's daughters married two Bogue brothers - Thomas and Francis. The Bogues were from Fermanagh

Hope to share info with you some time
Ellen

Victoria....Dont be losing sleep over the Reardon spelling....whoever spelt /transcribed it like that was having a "bad hair day"....normally you will find variation even in Ireland but its mainly Riordan..O'Riorden...Rearden/an/on.

Another point to note about the marriage of Bridget Campbell to James Reirden in Liverpool is I cannot find a family with this spelling in any subsequent census records.

It appears the Reardon's, Sampson's and Mulhollands all were part of the Butcher's trade in St John;s Market. The Sampson's went on to open a restuarant called Sampson and Barlow in Liverpool which in the 60's was home to a lounge above it where The Beetles played and practiced. My mum remembers visiting it as a child and all the meats laid out in the window.

I know what you mean about the Cornelius who suddenly appears in the 1871 census as he is not there in the 1861 and should of been as he was only a baby then. Again could it be a transcription error as there is a gap between Catherine age 8 abd Bridget age 6 months, was cornelius infact born 1868 not 58?

Previously I said I thought Bridget Reardon born 1855ish, Liverpool was the daughter of Timothy and Honora Reardon, but he was a dock labourer, and in 1871 I have just found the following with father's trade being a ..... you've guess it a butcher.
John Reardon
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ama Reardon
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Household schedule number: 152
Household Members: Name Age
John Reardon 55
Mary Ama Reardon 35
Catherine Reardon 17
Margaret Reardon 15
Bridget Reardon 14
Julio Reardon 8
Mary Anne Reardon 7
Francis Reardon 10
James Reardon 4
Catharine Cuningham 60

Who knows but I am off on a tangent here as I was trying to research the Campbell's and didn't expect to uncover so many connections to the Reardon's, which I thought just involved Bridget Campbell, how wrong was I??

Victoria...have you picked up on the fact that Cornelius (1871) is the same age as James..? Were they twins..? I cannot locate a birth for Con.

Victoria...The Irish records wont be of much value at this stage as both James and Brid were born pre Civil Registration therefore you would be needing the Parish Records for everything...
You would need to identify primarily Religion..where they both came from (Hundreds Campbells in the Co Monaghan) and by that I mean the actual Parish and Townland....
I have just found a piece of trivia ..Both James Reardon and Julia Mulholland were members of the St John's Market Householders Butchers Ass.1892..(what a mouthful) seems Thomas M may have died by then...

Actually the cogs are turning here, when I was researching the Reardon's and found all the butcher shops etc, I also found a Frederick Reardon, butcher at the same addresses, maybe I should look a little further into this line as was not sure where frederick fitted and decided to put him on the backburner for now, but maybe he is Bridget's brother?

ARGGGHH! This gets more complicated by the minute, so possible she was a cousin and James Reardon born 1836 in Ireland, had a brother called Timothy! Oh if only I could access some Irish records!

Victoria...Did you know that the Brid.Readon who married Wm Fennell (1876) was also aButcher...and he came from Carrickmacross..!!

Going back to the 1861 census which was found earlier with Nathaniel and Mary Campbell on it, I have checked back at the actual census image and they are living in Vernon Street. Googling Pownall Square, places it the next road along, which leads me to think this is could be the same family as Mary Campbell apparently settled in Pownall Sq area.

Thats good then, I thought i had got myself all confused!

I agree about transcription errors as look at John instead of Julia and in previous research I was looking into the Rogers and they were transcribed by all means - Rodgers, Rugers, Roders you name it!

Victoria...My mistake I meant Brid Reardon (1871) could n't have married Wm Fennell1876 as she was only 6 mths...
The County Monaghan is in the Republic of Ireland ..to the North is the County Tyrone..the East is Armagh and the S.East...East Meath and the Co.Louth ....
The only extra you would get by obtaining the MC for Brid and James would be confirmation of their respective fathers (whether alive/dead) and the witness'
Ages on the Census along with lots of other bits can be very misleading...in the absence of Primary source info.you need to take them with a pinch of salt....You just need to look at "Nichols and Nicholson" name on the 1871/1881 Census.

Sorry going back to the first bit of that I of course meant to say I can't confirm anything unless I can find Irish records for the Reardon family! (possibly 1 too many glasses of wine with our family New year meal!).

Hi.
I have just tried to follow the Bridget Reardon who you found marrying a William Fennell (son of Catherine Campbell and Mr Fennell I believe) in 1876. They appear in the 1891 census with 10 children, the 3rd being a William Fennell born 1882, who himself appears to of married a Honora Arid and they had 4 children William (killed in 1944), Richard, Clare (my great Aunt through marriage to Gerald Sampson) and Peggy. I have no idea who this Bridget Reardon is, she was born in Ireland and it seems her parents were a Timothy Reardon born 1824 Ireland and Honora Reardon born 1829 Ireland. Whether Timothy was a brother or relative to the James Reardon who married Brid. Campbell I don't know, or it may just be coincidence. I guess without finding Irish records with the Campbell family on we will never know.

I am also confused by your last post, you say because of the 1871 census, the Brid Reardon here can't be the Brid Reardon in the marriage record to James Reirden, why?

1861 I have:
James Reardon age 25 cb1836 Ireland
Bridget Reardon age 24 cb1837 Ireland
John son b1858
James son b1859
Mary Ann daug. 1 mo.

1871 as above again though James and Bridget were still reported as born c1836 Ireland

1881 as you found, definately our Bridget as the Reardon line were apparently well know butchers in Liverpool with numerous shops on Gill St, Myrtle St and in St John's market, it seems the trade of the son's and brother Edward as well.
Again though the date for Bridget's borth is within 2 years or 1836/37 and I was told in the past census records can be up to 5 years wrong. The only thing I amm ignorant about is where Monaghan is in Ireland?

Marriage details (possibly) are:
James Reirden b1836 age 21, father Cornelius (note on 1871 census a son called Cornelius)
Bridget Campbell b1837, Ireland, age 20, father Nathaniel (Follwing her brother's line Joseph Campbell, he had a son called nathaniel in 1878)
of course the sons could all be a conicidence.

To me though the dates all tie in, am I missing something quite vital. Even ordering the certifcate of James Reirdon and Brid. Campbell I dont think will shed any further light.

Look forwards to your thoughts on this!
Vicki

Victoria...Just to check...is this Brid. (Snr) 1881...?

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Bridget REARDON Mother (Head) M Female 46 Monaghan, Ireland Butcher
John REARDON Son U Male 22 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Butcher
Mary Ann REARDON Dau U Female 20 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar
Bridget REARDON Dau Female 8 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar
Mary F. REARDON Dau Female 4 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar
Bridget NICHOLS Servant U Female 60 Ireland General Servant
Margaret WARD Servant U Female 18 Ireland Servant


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Source Information:
Dwelling 51 Great Orford St
Census Place Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341867
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3621 / 83
Page Number 1

Think it must be ..check Brid Nicholson (1871) servant aged 50 now transcibed Nichols aged 60.
Mary Ann aged 20 yrs down as a scholar..!!
Brid . states she was born in the Co Monaghan...!!

Victoria...Had tried the various permutatations for McGrave/Crave....
I can see from the 1871 that Brid. couldnt be the Brid that married Fennell...Heavens...I thought my O'Briens were difficult to follow...!!

Just one thing about Thom M and MAry Anne McGrave, her name is written as McCrave not McGrave, not sure if this would make a huge difference.

1871 census is as follows.

Name: James Reardon
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Bridget Reardon
Mother's name: Mary Campbell
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Mount Pleasant
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 182
Household Members: Name Age
James Reardon 34
Bridget Reardon 34
John Reardon 13
James Reardon 12
Cornelius Reardon 12
Mary A Reardon 10
Catherine Reardon 8
Bridget Reardon 6 Months
Edward Reardon 40
Mary Campbell 70
Bridget Nicholson 50
Mary Mathews 34

Hope this helps, somewhere I have that Mary Campbell was born in Carrickmacross and she is also reported to of been in Dundalk around the 1840's.

Thanks again

Victoria....Are you sure Brid Rearden married a Sampson...?
I have a Brid Rearden marrying a Wm...wait for it ...Fennell St Augustines Liverpool 1876.!!!

Victoria...
You never know what gets uncovered !!
Still have not located anything re Thomas and "McGrave" (Variations)....may need to put that on the back burner for now...
There are so many twists and turns when families intermarry you would best to make a list of what you need to find for each one individually...
Can you post the 1871 Census for Rearden with "Mary Campbell" on ...I cant access other than 1881 so may be able to work out something from it if I see it in front of me....