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Keith
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28 Dec 2010 15:27 |
My great grandfather - Nathan Newbould - had 4 surviving children according to the 1901 census. My Grandfather, James Alfred Newbould - born 8th Aug 1893 and his older brother William, born 1888 had two sister named Cecilia (aka Cissy) and Annie - neither of the sisters are mentioned on the census. Could anyone advise on how best to trace them ? other than their names I have no age or birth date information.
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LondonBelle
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28 Dec 2010 15:34 |
Do you know when and where Nathan got married? Do you know his wife's name?
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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28 Dec 2010 15:37 |
Is this the family on the 1901 please?
1901 England Census about James A Newbould Name: James A Newbould Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1894 Relation: Son Father's name: Nathan Newbould Mother's name: Ann Newbould Gender: Male Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Leeds Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: West Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 154 Household Members: Name Age Nathan Newbould 46 Ann Newbould 44 William Newbould 13 James A Newbould 7 Mary Y Newbould 36 1891 England Census about Nathan Newbould Name: Nathan Newbould Age: 37 Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ann Newbould Gender: Male Where born: Pateley Bridge, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Leeds Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls Town: Leeds County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: West Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Nathan Newbould 37 Ann Newbould 35 William Newbould 4
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28 Dec 2010 15:40 |
NEWBOULD, Nathan Head Married M 57 1854 Wheelwright Patley Bridge VIEW NEWBOULD, Ann Wife Married 31 years F 55 1856 Walton VIEW NEWBOULD, William Son Single M 22 1889 Coach Painter Leeds VIEW NEWBOULD, James A Son Single M 17 1894 Tixile Printer Leeds VIEW SIMPSON, E Boarder Single F 5 1906 Leeds VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 27006 Reference: RG14PN27006 RG78PN1548A RD500 SD3 ED25 SN151 Registration District: Leeds Sub District: West Leeds Enumeration District: 25 Parish: Leeds Address: 14 Claro Avenue Cambridge Road Woodhouse Leeds County: Yorkshire (West riding) Is this them in 1911 ? Elaine
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28 Dec 2010 15:47 |
Name: Ann Newbould Year of Registration: 1880 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Wakefield County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire Volume: 9c Page: 82
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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28 Dec 2010 15:47 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Nathan Newbould Name: Nathan Newbould Year of Registration: 1879 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Leeds (1837-1929) County: Yorkshire - West Riding Volume: 9b Page: 512
****Nathan Newbould 1879 Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West Riding *****Ann Reader 1879 Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West Riding William Henry Slater 1879 Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West
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28 Dec 2010 15:48 |
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1921 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Faulkner Dorothy Grace Warrington 8c 241 Grace Arthur Faulkner Warrington 8c 241 Newbould Cecilia M Phillips Warrington 8c 241 Phillips Victor Newbould Warrington 8c 241 Povey Cyril J Taylor Warrington 8c 241
Is this Cecilia ?
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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28 Dec 2010 15:49 |
Elaine thats the same address on th e1911 as in the two census I put up.
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Nickydownsouth
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28 Dec 2010 15:52 |
The only Cecilia Newbould information that comes up on freeBMD between 1880 and 1940..
Marriages Jun 1921 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Faulkner Dorothy Grace Warrington 8c 241 Grace Arthur Faulkner Warrington 8c 241 >>>Newbould Cecilia M Phillips Warrington 8c 241 >>>Phillips Victor Newbould Warrington 8c 241 Povey Cyril J Taylor Warrington 8c 241
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LondonBelle
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28 Dec 2010 15:52 |
If this is the same family as above but in the 1881 census perhaps Jane Annie is Annie?
Name: Nathan Newbould Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1853 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ann Newbould Gender: Male Where born: Pately Bridge, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Leeds County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 17 Claro Avenue Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Wheelwright (Out Of Employ) Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: West Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Nathan Newbould 28 Ann Newbould 25 b Norfolk Jane Annie Newbould 3mths b Leeds
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Keith
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28 Dec 2010 15:52 |
the 1911 census show them as being married for 31 years so I assume they were married around 1880. Could be 1879 - I have seen a similar entry.
Reply from Mel is correct - this is the same family in 1902
Reply from Elaine - yes, this is same family in 1911
Keith
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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28 Dec 2010 16:01 |
But Keith they don't have 4 children on any of these census!! The Mary Y on one census is Nathan's sister.
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28 Dec 2010 16:01 |
Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blackburn William Sinclair Halifax 9a 870 Cromie Stephen Thompson Halifax 9a 870 Hollis Lilly Ann Halifax 9a 870 Newbould Jane Annie Halifax 9a 870
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Nickydownsouth
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28 Dec 2010 16:03 |
Births Mar 1881 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newbould Jane Annie Leeds 9b 532
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Keith
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28 Dec 2010 16:05 |
you are all very kind - I have been struggling to find this information for days - you find it in minutes - I obviously have a lot of learning to do.
Jane Annie Newbould looks spot on - I didn't expect to find any siblings so many years older than my grandfather.
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28 Dec 2010 16:11 |
Looking at freeBMD there are quite a few Newbould children who were born then died between the census years, any of them could belong to this family.
If you can find any baptisms for the family you may find who is missing.
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Keith
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28 Dec 2010 16:13 |
Mel , the 1911 census "household members" shows them as being married for 31 years, 5 children born alive, 4 children living, 1 child died.
William and James Alfred are shown on the census but the sisters aren't. looking at the information you have very kindly supplied, they must be older and have either married and moved out or just moved out.
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Keith
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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28 Dec 2010 16:14 |
1861 England Census about Nathan Newbould Name: Nathan Newbould Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Relation: Son Father's name: William Newbould Mother's name: Jane Newbould Gender: Male Where born: Bewerley, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Bewerley Ecclesiastical parish: Greenhow Hill County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Pateley Bridge Sub-registration district: Pateley Bridge Ripon (part) (Divided between RG 9/3193, 3195 3199 and 3200 3201) ED, institution, or vessel: 4e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 94 Household Members: Name Age William Newbould 32 Jane Newbould 35 Nathan Newbould 7 Thomas Newbould 6 James Newbould 3 Ann Newbould 1
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LondonBelle
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28 Dec 2010 16:17 |
This could be Jane Annie in the 1891 census
Name: Jane A Newbould Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1881 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Arthington Ecclesiastical parish: Arthington St Peters Town: Arthington County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Wharefdale Sub-registration district: Fewston ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Jane Newbould 64 m (dependent on husband's wages who pro tem lives in Northamptonshire) Margaret Newbould 28 dau single Jane A Newbould 10 grand daughter Rebecca Newbould 7 grand daugher Mary Newbould 3 grand daughter
All born Leeds
Rebecca & Mary could be siblings to Jane A or cousins.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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28 Dec 2010 17:00 |
Had to do my chickens!!
The only Cissy I can find on IGI is born 1809 to George Newbould and his wife.
CICELY NEWBOULD Pedigree Female Birth: Christening: 05 MAR 1809 Pateley Bridge, Yorkshire, England
Parents: Father: GEORGE NEWBOULD Family Mother: BETTY Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
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