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this infomation is brilliant

thank you so much jax

1891 census - household transcription
Person: STEWART, Ernest
Address: 36, Bury New Road, Cheetham, Manchester


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STEWART, William Head Married M 57 1834 Saddler
Glasgow VIEW
STEWART, Louisa Wife Married F 36 1855
Manchester VIEW
STEWART, Alexander Son Single M 15 1876 Errand Boy
Manchester VIEW
STEWART, William Son M 7 1884
Manchester VIEW
STEWART, Edward Son M 5 1886
Manchester VIEW
STEWART, James Son Single M 4 1887
Manchester VIEW
STEWART, Annie Daughter Single F 2 1889
Manchester VIEW
STEWART, Ernest Son M 0 (8M) 1891
Manchester VIEW
TAYLOR, Mary Mother In Law Widow F 61 1830 Charwoman
Ireland VIEW

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same address for 20 years that makes a change

could u post a copy of the earyer censuses please

jax this sounds very good as william ernest's father was a saddlers master

1911 census - household transcription
Person: STEWART, Ernest
Address: 36 Bury New Road Cheetham Manchester


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STEWART, Louisa Head Widow F 55 1856 Shop Keeper Laddler Manchester Lanc VIEW
STEWART, Edward Son Single M 25 1886 Porter Manchester Lanc VIEW
STEWART, Annie Daughter Single F 22 1889 Tailors Seamstress Manchester Lanc VIEW
STEWART, Ernest Son Single M 20 1891 Warehouseman Manchester Lanc VIEW
STEWART, James Son Single M 19 1892 Iron Turner Apprentice Manchester Lanc VIEW
CAVE, Thomas Edwin Brother In Law Married M 49 1862 Joineryman Saddler Manchester Lanc VIEW
CAVE, Mary Visitor Married
28 years F 45 1866 Manchester Lanc VIEW

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Same address as 1901 looks like william had died

1901 census - household transcription
Person: STEWART, Ernest
Address: 36, Bury New Road, North Manchester


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STEWART, Louisa Head Widow F 46 1855 Saddler Shopkeeper
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
STEWART, William Son Single M 17 1884 Saddlers Apprentice
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
STEWART, Edward Son M 15 1886 Engraver (Electrical Apprentice)
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
STEWART, James Son M 14 1887 Van Boy (Baker)
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
STEWART, Annie Daughter F 12 1889
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
STEWART, Ernest Son M 10 1891
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
STEWART, Thomas Son M 9 1892
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
CAVE, Thomas E Brother-In-Law Married M 39 1862 Foreman Saddler
Prestwich
Lancashire VIEW
CAVE, Mary Boarder Married F 36 1865
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
CAVE, Thomas E Boarder M 17 1884 Saddlers Apprentice
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, Mary Mother-In-Law Married F 71 1830 Living On Own Means
Ireland VIEW
CAVE, Emma Niece F 7 1894
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW

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Just been given Ernest Stewart's birth certificate that states he was born 29/07/1890 and not as his marriage certificate stated 1896 now i have found him in the census records on here as prestwich cheetham manchester on 1891 and 1911 which is same as his birth cetificate and 1901 as Lancaster north manchester please could somebody take a look at these records and if it states his dad was william could you plase post me a copiy of these on here please

Thank you Martin

Thanks Martin

i have today recieved the marriage cert between Ernest Stewart and Bertrice May Lee . They where married on 21/7/1928 register office Salford he was 32 (born 1896/7) she was 23(born 1905/6) His Father was William Stewart (deceased)Formerly Saddlers(master) i think it says, Her Farther Was Joseph Lee (general) labourer and i now belive that Joseph's father was a Peter Lee according to Joseph's Marriage certificate to Beatrice Vincent if anyone can find any info on william Stewart or Peter Lee i would be very gratful.

I have just recieved a massive blow to my search when you posted your 1911 census Beatrice May Lee who's Father was Joseph Lee born 1878 chester just like yours but the 1911 census i've got places them in openshawe with a different mother

LEE, Joseph Head Married M 33 1878 Labourer Iron Foundry Chester England VIEW
LEE, Beatrice Wife Married
9 years F 29 1882 House Duties Home Wilts Swindon VIEW
LEE, Joseph Son Single M 9 1902 Scholar Cardiff Wales VIEW
LEE, Beatrice Daughter Single F 5 1906 Infant Cardiff VIEW
LEE, Rachel Daughter Single F 3 1908 Infant Cardiff VIEW

Dont belive there was two born same year same place i'm so sorry for wasting your precious time and energy

This seems to be the marriage details for Mary F Lee but unfortunately 2 of the spouses are missing from the record....

Marriages Sep 1907 (>99%)
LEE Mary Frances Chester 8a 887
PARTINGTON Harry Chester 8a 887
ROBINSON May Macclesfield 8a 887
WINGFIELD Bessie Chester 8a 887

The same goes for Hebert Lee's marriage details!!! Boo Hooo!

I was trying to apease you for the fact that i still cant find the 1841 and 1871 i was looking for!!! lol

1911 census - household transcription
Person: LEE, Joseph Henry
Address: 53 Philip Street Hoole Chester

LEE, Joseph Henry Head Married M 33 1878 Railway Engine Driver Cheshire Chester VIEW
LEE, Elizabeth Wife Married
9 years F 33 1878 Cheshire Chester VIEW
LEE, Joseph Henry Son M 6 1905 Shropshire Shrewsbury VIEW
LEE, Herbert Son M 4 1907 Cheshire Chester VIEW
LEE, Francis May Daughter F 2 1909 Cheshire Chester VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
21881 Reference:
RG14PN21881 RG78PN1303 RD450 SD3 ED11 SN168

Registration District:
Chester Sub District:
Chester Cathedral Enumeration District:
11 Parish:
Hoole

Address:
53 Philip Street Hoole Chester County:
Cheshire
(4 children born and living)

Marriages Mar 1902 (>99%)
DAVIES Elizabeth Chester 8a 629
Lee Joseph Henry Chester 8a 629

1911 census - household transcription
Person: LEE, Herbert
Address: 1 Walker Street Hoole Chester

LEE, Joseph Head Married M 61 1850 Labourer At Brewery Swanborne Buck VIEW
LEE, Sarah Wife Married
33 years F 61 1850 Utkington Cheshire VIEW
LEE, Herbert Son Married M 20 1891 Carter Hoole Chester Ches VIEW
LEE, Phoebe Daughter In Law Married
1 years F 20 1891 Cradley Heath Staff VIEW
LEE, Alfred Herbert Grandson M 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 Hoole Chester Ches VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
21881 Reference:
RG14PN21881 RG78PN1303 RD450 SD3 ED11 SN159

Registration District:
Chester Sub District:
Chester Cathedral Enumeration District:
11 Parish:
Hoole

Address:
1 Walker Street Hoole Chester County:
Cheshire
(11 childen born, 7 died!!! 4 living.

In case you dont have it....


1891 England Census
about Joseph Lee
Name: Joseph Lee
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah Lee
Gender: Male
Where born: Swanburne, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Hoole
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Hoole
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Chester
Sub-registration district: Chester Cathedral
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Lee 41 Brewers Carter
Sarah Lee 41
Joseph H Lee 13
George W Lee 12
Mary F Lee 6
Thomas Newell 19 Boarder
William Harrison 29 Boarder


1901 England Census
about Joseph Lee
Name: Joseph Lee
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah Lee
Gender: Male
Where born: Swanbourne, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Hoole
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Chester
Sub-registration district: Chester Cathedral
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 171
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Lee 51
Sarah Lee 51
Joseph H Lee 23
Mary F Lee 16
Herbert Lee 9

Thanks Holly

I was hoping to find the 1871 and 1841 for you but its not happening. I will keep looking for you.

Thanks you to you both for all the help you have gave me

On the 1861 census, Benjamin is Joseph's father and and on the 1851 census, Benjamin is Josephs father and William is his Grandfather.

1891 possible

Name: Beaty Vincent
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Richard Vincent
Mother's name: Sarah Vincent
Gender: Female
Where born: Swindon

Civil Parish: Higher Llangynwyd
Ecclesiastical parish: Llangynwyd
Town: Maes Teg (Maestag)
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Bridgend
Sub-registration district: Maesteg
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Vincent 31 - Lea, Wiltshire- coal miner
Sarah Vincent 35 - ?? Wooden Buride, Wiltshire -Wootton Bassett ??
Beaty Vincent 8
Richard Vincent 7/12 Maesteg, Glamorgan
John Scott 41 - visitor



1901 shown as a widower
Name: Richard Vincent
Age in 1901: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Lea, Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: Roath
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: East Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 200
Household Members: Name Age
John Larcombe 35
Elizh Larcombe 44
Stephen Jenkins 14
Albert Wall 13
Amelia Wall 8
Clive Larcombe 2
Richard Vincent 40
Richard Vincent 10
Henry Vincent 5
John Compton 30
Harry Denham 25
Thomas Wilcox 35
Thomas Headon 36

now very confused it looks like joseph has changed his dad from william lee to benjamin lee