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Hi there,
This will be my new[and only]post for trying to find information on my ancestors.
The two in question are as follows.
John Grout born 1784 died 1841 Great Easton Essex.
Edwin Grout born 1848 Great Dunmow Essex.
Regards.
Michael.

Hardly any Essex records are on line....you would almost certainly need to visit the County Records Office to get the info you seek

Can we assume that you have already checked ALL the familysearch sites?

And freebmd and censuses for the one born 1848?

Haven't you asked about this before?

This family has been requested before thats for sure, but I think Michael may have deleted the threads

jax

The only entry for 1848


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Births Sep 1848
Grout Edwin - W Ham 12 *09

Was he a professor of Music ?

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Household:1881

Edwin GROUT Head M Male 32 Plaistow, Essex, England Professor Of Music
Elizabeth GROUT Wife M Female 33 Hackney, Middlesex, England
Edwin Joseph GROUT Son Male 7 Hackney, Middlesex, England Scholar
Albert E. GROUT Son Male 6 Hackney, Middlesex, England Scholar
Frederick GROUT Son Male 3 Islington, Middlesex, England Scholar
Adelaide GROUT Daur Female 1 Islington, Middlesex, England

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Dwelling Melrose Terrace 5
Census Place London, Middlesex, England

I have copies of some of the gazillions of other threads Michael has posted on this subject, if anyone wants to check them out.

No, deleting old threads does not mean that this is the "only" post on the subject. Particularly when you persist in making no mention of all the hours of time that others (like: me) have spent on this wild goose chase already.

What it means is that you are inviting other helpful unwitting individuals to waste their time doing what has been done repeatedly already.

I just don't understand you. You know full well what is available on line. You know that the information you are looking for is NOT AVAILABLE.

You also know that you have quite a lot of information about the two individuals named in your post, and yet once again, you do not mention any of it in your opening post. You say you are looking for "any information" -- an open invitation for people to spend their time "finding" things that are not lost.

Truly appalling. Fair warning: next time you do this, I wll report the thread as a blatant, knowing violation of the site rules, and blatant, knowing abuse of other members' goodwill.

Actually,, I see that I gave you that warning in one of your many other threads on about October 26. So I suggest that you close this one with an apology.


Some samples (not by any means a complete list):

John Grout[1709 Thaxted Essex]
He was the son of Henry Grout and Mary Flack but c
Michael 15/09/2010 09:35:41 5

Trying to find an Elizabeth Stock
Am trying to trace details of an Elizabeth Stock w
Michael 12/09/2010 00:09:58 9

Trying to find an Elizabeth Stock
Am trying to trace details of an Elizabeth Stock w
Michael 12/09/2010 00:09:58 9 replies

John and Henry Grout[Essex 1722/1724]
An trying to find any offspring for their two marr
Michael 01/04/2010 19:00:03 3 replies

Martin Grout[circa 1730/40 Essex area]
A John Grout married a Mary Key in Great Easton Es
Michael 29/03/2010 16:48:28 10 replies

Elizabeth Parmenter[Virley Essex 1732]
Can anyone give any information as to this marriag
Michael 03/02/2010 14:18:15 4 replies

Elizabeth Scott descendants
She married my ancestor Martin Grout in Great Bard
Michael 11/01/2010 18:01:54 2 replies

Essex parish records
As i live in the West country and am retired i was
Michael 05/12/2009 14:51:11 8 replies

Look quick before Michael deletes it:


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/help_clinic/thread/1250125


Help Clinic : Martin Grout[bap 1706 Thaxted]image 8 SEAX Essex.


Michael 24th Nov 2010

Hi there,
I am trying to find this ancestor of mine who i believe was the father of my known ancestor[also called Martin] who as per my tree on this site married an Elizabeth Scott in Great Bardfield Essex in 1763.
The name of a Martin Grout and an Elizabeth[name unknown] appears on SEAX[images 13,14 and 15]for baptisms in Little Bardfield between 1735 and 1751.Five children are listed during this time[but not a Martin].It was normal in those days,i believe to name the firstborn after their parents so i am sure[as no marriage record can be found for LB]that they were married elsewhere.Also when Elizabeth dies in the early 1750's no trace of a burial for that parish.This leads me to think that she was interred in her own parish[hopefully the marriage location].
He marries again to a Martha with three further children and they are all buried[between 1780 and 1798 in LB.
Therefore i am trying to find that parish and hopefully locate a Martin and an Elizabeth.
This is the one missing link to my tree and when found it takes my line back to 1578.
I am hoping that you can help in this dilemma.
Regards.
Michael.


Vera 24th Nov 2010

Michael,
I am sorry, I cannot help. Here is the Genes support....
[email protected]

Regards Vera


Astra 24th Nov 2010

Hi Michael
Still beavering away at the Grout lineage I see!
Correct me if I am wrong but haven't we looked for this before.
At the 'Help Clinic' we only have the same resources available as we have used previously to try and resolve this dilemma and I am afraid that the information is just not there. Perhaps at some point in the future when more records become available on-line you will find her. I sincerely hope you do so that you can tie together this line of your tree.
In the meantime I wish you good luck and happy hunting.


Michael 24th Nov 2010

Hi both of you,
As this was a new addition to this site,i thought i would give it a try.
Yes,this is still the missing piece of my jigsaw i am afraid.
Regards.
Michael.

I knew I'd seen innumerable GROUT postings........deleting them is not an honest way of proceeding.

Michael..............

I suggest you find time to visit the Essex Records Office and do your OWN research there.

Hi Flick,
As i live in the West Country it would have to be a stopover visit of a few days at least!
Regards.
Michael.

Nice little break then? Not much in Little Bardfield, Gt Bardfiel is a bit bigger but Thaxted is a nice villiage

jax

Hi Jax.
Not knowing where this Elizabeth was born in Essex i am much aware of how long it would be to locate the parish.
My posting of this request was on the hope that someone who lives and does research in the county may have come across some old records.
Regards.
Michael.

You have asked on countless occasions about these people, and have had negative results...when are you going to realise that no-one on GR has the info you want.

If you really wish to further your research.........it's down to you to visit the County Records Office, and spend some time looking for answers.

Hi Flick,
Yes ,i agree that this may be the only answer.
The other alternative would be an Atlas of parish registers which is advertised on the Genealogist which would hopefully cover the areas in question.
What do you think?
Regards.
Michael.

Hi everyone,
Does anyone out there have full access to FMP as i am no longer a member.
It is for a burial in Essex circa 1751/55 and the name is Elizabeth Grout.Have checked the site and they list an entry.
Regards.
Michael.

Records access at this site -- GenesReunited -- is free until 8 pm tonight UK time. Have you tried here? You won't likely be able even to get a search result, since all anyone is getting is a site-maintenance message (read: site is crashed), but you could always try.

Parish Records Collection - burial



First name(s): Elizabeth

Last name: GROUT

Date of burial: 16 Sep 1756

Age at death:

Calculated year of birth: Not known

Place of burial: Thaxted

Dedication: St John the Baptist

County: Essex

Notes:
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Thaxted St John the Baptist:


Denomination: Anglican


Coverage: 1693 - 1858


Number of entries: 5,687
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Record source: National Burial Index


Parish Records Collection - burial



First name(s): Elizabeth

Last name: GROUT

Date of burial: 11 Mar 1757

Age at death:

Calculated year of birth: Not known

Place of burial: Thaxted

Dedication: St John the Baptist

County: Essex


Notes:
________________________________________
Thaxted St John the Baptist:


Denomination: Anglican


Coverage: 1693 - 1858


Number of entries: 5,687
________________________________________


Record source: National Burial Index

hi Pam,
Thank you so much for this info.
very much appreciated.
A very happy new year to you.
Regardsx.
Michael.

Hi everyone,
Does anyone live in the Canterbury area as i would appreciate some lookups in the Cathedral archives.
Regards.
Michael.

There are 90 Grouts on this site in Essex, and many others elsewhere:

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=home

This one may be 'your' Edwin' ?

Name: Edwin Henry Grout
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 13 Feb 1848
Baptism/Christening Place: Great Dunmow, Essex, England

Father's Name: Henry Grout

Mother's Name: Lydia

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02245-2
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1472220
Reference Number: item 1-8 p 81
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Take a look - you may just find something useful?

Dea x