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I am trying to find info on a LAVINIA CAROLINE AVENS born in St. James Bristol in 1965. She married my g.grandfather WILLIAM POPE in 1887 16th August - Barton Regis area Gloucestershire. I have found their marriage entry but cannot find her on any census returns. My g.grandfather was in the army at the time of their marriage but based in Gloucestershire. He remarried in 1900 and then lived in Penarth. I can pick him up from then on. I only found out about the first wife because I downloaded his army records and this marriage was mentioned there. I am interested in finding out what happened to her. Any help wold be appreciated.

Name: Lavinia Caroline Aven
Year of Registration: 1887
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Barton Regis
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 316 (click to see others on page)

I can't see a birth for her...where did you get those details from

What about a different surname?

Births Mar 1864 (>99%)
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LAWRENCE Lavinia Caroline Yeovil 5c 576

Thanks for the details. However, they seem to be the only ones I could find (the marriage details). Perhaps I will have to order the marriage certificate to see who her father was. The only family with the name Avens I can find on the census does not include a LAVINIA CAROLINE!! All very strange. I couldn't find a death notice for a Lavinia Avens/Pope either. Don't know if they had any children in the 13 years they were married (well before William Pope re-married in 1900!!). I have tried looking for variations on the name Lavinia and using Caroline as a first name but still zero findings.

Where and when was William Pope born?

I hadn't thought of a different surname. Again this is pointing towards me ordering the marriage cert to see what her father's surname was. I wll have a look at the census too for Lavinia Caroline Lawrence.

William Pope was born on the 14th June 1856 in Ledbury Herefordshire.

What leads you to think Lavinia was born in the year/place you quote?

Checking on freebmd............

Deaths Dec 1865 (>99%)
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Lawrence Lavinia Caroline Yeovil 5c 321

I did ask where did you get her details from....did i miss the answer

I remember where I found it now. I was searching the 1891 census on genes reunited and I actually found her there. Living by herself, but married and a tailoress. I worked the year of birth out myself but the place of birth was given as St. James, Bristol.

For reference:

1891

POPE, Lavinia C Wife Married F 26 1865 Tailoress
Bristol
St James

RG number:
RG12 Piece:
1974 Folio:
60 Page:
2

Registration District:
Barton Regis Sub District:
Ashley Enumeration District:
32 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Horfield Mother Church

Civil Parish:
Horfield Municipal Borough:
Address:
Cottage, Gloucester Road, Horfield County:
Gloucestershire



POPE, William Married M 34 1857 Private Depot Gloster Regt
Birmingham
Warwickshire

RG number:
RG12 Piece:
1974 Folio:
130 Page:
10

Registration District:
Barton Regis Sub District:
Ashley Enumeration District:
33 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Horfield Mother Church

Civil Parish:
Horfield Municipal Borough:
St James & St Paul Address:
Horfield, Bristol, St James & St Paul County:
Gloucestershire

William's place of birth is given as Birmingham - which matches the information given on his army record.

1881 England Census
about Lavinia Caroline Mould
Name: Lavinia Caroline Mould
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Sister in Law
Gender: Female
Where born: St James Bristol

Civil Parish: Gloucester Barton St Michael
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address: 29 Front Terrace
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Tailor Wife

Registration district: Gloucester
Sub-registration district: South Hamlet
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age

John Mould 39 Tailor b. Cheltenham
Harriet Mould 40 Tailors Wife b. Elkstone
William Mould 16 Tailor b. Cheltenham
Rosa Minnie Mould 11 Scholar b. Gloucester
Flora Mould 9 Scholar b. Gloucester
Jno.Treaver Mould 7 Scholar b. Gloucester
Charlotte Ann Mould 5 Scholar b. Gloucester
Florence Flower Mould 2 b. Gloucester
Frederic James Mould 18 Brother Tailor b. Cheltenham
Lavinia Caroline Mould 19 Sister in Law Tailor's Wife b. St James Bristol

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2536; Folio: 106; Page: 27; GSU roll: 1341612.

Marriages Dec 1880
FORD Lavinia Caroline Bristol 6a 168
Mould Frederick James Bristol 6a 168

Although she doesn't seem to appear on later censuses as Mould - possible death?

Deaths Sep 1915
Mould Lavinia C 51 Bristol 6a 188

They may have separated:

1891:

MOULD, Frederick J Head Married M 28 1863 Tailor
Gloucester VIEW
MOULD, Annie Wife Married F 23 1868
Cardiff VIEW
MOULD, Frederick J Son M 4 1887
Cardiff VIEW
MOULD, Flora M M Daughter F 2 1889
Gloucester VIEW
MOULD, Charles H Son M 1 1890
Gloucester VIEW
WHITWORTH, Edward Lodger Married M 26 1865 Moulder
Leeds
Yorkshire VIEW
WHITWORTH, Annie Lodger Married F 24 1867
Leeds
Yorkshire VIEW
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
2014 Folio:
51 Page:
34

Registration District:
Gloucester Sub District:
St John the Baptist Enumeration District:
3 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Michael

Civil Parish:
Gloucester Municipal Borough:
Gloucester Address:
7, Bedford Street, Gloucester County:
Gloucestershire

1901

MOULD, Fredk Head Married M 38 1863 Tailor
Cheltenham
Gloucestershire
MOULD, Annie Wife Married F 33 1868
Burtle
Somersetshire
MOULD, Charles Son Single M 11 1890
Gloucester
MOULD, Florence Daughter Single F 9 1892
Gloucester
MOULD, Alexander Son Single M 3 1898
Gloucester
MOULD, Beatrice Daughter Single F 1 1900
Gloucester

RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2429 Folio:
180 Page:
19

Registration District:
Gloucester Sub District:
South Hamlet Enumeration District:
14 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Luke's

Civil Parish:
Gloucester Municipal Borough:
Address:
126, Linden Road, Gloucester County:
Gloucestershire

1911

PORTER, Charlotte Daughter Single F 20 1891 Ruler Mon Newport
MOULD, Frederick Boarder Married M 48 1863 Tailor Gloucester
PORTER, Fred Head Married
32 years M 53 1858 Coach Builder And Repairer Somersetshire Taunton
PORTER, Charlotte Wife Married F 60 1851 Stogursey Bridgewater
PORTER, Samuel Son Single M 21 1890 No Occupation Mon Newport

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
31968 Reference:
RG14PN31968 RG78PN1840 RD587 SD2 ED9 SN152

Registration District:
Newport Sub District:
Newport Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
Newport

Address:
2 North Street Newport County:
Monmouthshire

No children details are given on the 1911 census entry for him - only states he was married for 28 years.

Thank you for all your hard work Alex. I think the 1891 Lavinia Pope is her. I got really excited thinking I had found her in the 1901 census, but it was a Lavinia A Pope, married to a farmer John G Pope. Very strange all of it because Lavinia isn't that common a name. This one is driving me nuts. Still think I must pay out and get the marriage cert.

Births Dec 1862
FORD Lavinia Caroline Bristol 6a 47

1871

FORD, Richard Head M 45 1826 House Painter b. Bristol St Pauls Gloucestershire
FORD, Tabitha Wife F 39 1832 b. Bristol St. Pauls Gloucestershire
FORD, Louisa Daughter F 16 1855 Domestic Servant b. Bristol St James Gloucestershire
FORD, Richard Son M 12 1859 Scholar b. Bristol St. James Gloucestershire
FORD, Lavenia Daughter F 9 1862 Scholar b. Bristol St. James Gloucestershire
FORD, Alice Daughter F 3 1868 Scholar b. Bristol St. James Gloucestershire

RG number:
RG10 Piece:
2531 Folio:
45 Page:
16

Registration District:
Bristol Sub District:
St James Enumeration District:
10 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
St James Municipal Borough:
Bristol Address:
James Street, Great, St James, Bristol County:
Gloucestershire

I think there was much fibbing going on, so would be interested to see what the marriage cert for her and William Pope says!

Thanks for that Alex. I wonder if she was born FORD? Maybe I should look for her under that surname if she changed back in the later census.

Already posted the birth reference for you Kim! I've looked for her under Ford in later censuses too. I wouldn't be surprised if she either got together with someone else and is under his surname or was just avoiding the censuses altogether!