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Help please with Ancestry Marriages and Banns

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Ozibird

Ozibird Report 12 Dec 2010 19:46

Had some fun with this one, Blue, and I'm pleased it matches your info.

Demolition Oz.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 12 Dec 2010 17:02

Glad we could be of help Blue, we like the sound of Brickwalls smashing on GR, lol :-)
Just add if you need anything else.

Chris :)

Blue1

Blue1 Report 12 Dec 2010 13:01

Hi Chris and Ozi and jaz,
you've cracked it! thank you so much.
Him being a widow explains it all.Thank fully my husbands grandfather is the son Robert born 1861 so i can now add his mother at last.
I found out by fluke really yesterday that James's father was Francis and i think on James baptism it does say Francis is a Calico printer.
I'm so happy that this horrible brick wall is smashed at last.

Just going to print all of this out and search for all the docs on Ancestry.


Blue xx

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Dec 2010 23:12

It took a while, but I'm pretty sure we got there. As you say, jax, a birth cert will confirm.

Ozi

jax

jax Report 11 Dec 2010 22:56

Thats what I thought Ozi

So It was Sarah Lambley he married after he was widowed from his first wife Mary Cox You could purchase a childs birth cert to confirm

jax

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Dec 2010 22:48

I think there has been a mistake there. He was widowed but probably not her.

Ozi

jax

jax Report 11 Dec 2010 22:45

If she was a widow surely she would have married in her last married name?

jax

jax

jax Report 11 Dec 2010 22:37

Name: Sarah Lamley
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1828
Baptism Date: 20 Jul 1828
Father's name: Robert Lamley
Mother's name: Ann Lamley
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Andrew Holborn
Borough: City of London

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Dec 2010 22:30

1851 England Census
Name: Sarah Lamley
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Holborn, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Clerkenwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: 11 Little Warner St

Occupation: Needle Woman

Condition as to marriage: Unmarried

Registration district: Clerkenwell
Sub-registration district: St James Clerkenwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Lamley 22




1841 England Census
Name: Sarah Lumbley
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Andrew Holborn (Above The Bars)
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: Cotterells Place

Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: St Andrew Eastern
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Lumbley 45 - Ostler
Ann Lumbley 30
William Lumbley 17
Robert Lumbley 14
Sarah Lumbley 13
John Lumbley 8
Ann Lumbley 5
James Lumbley 1
Robert snr & jnr, Ann snr & William all born out of county.

jax

jax Report 11 Dec 2010 21:51

If you have the birth certs for the children does Sarahs maiden name say Coe?

I see the marriage in 1855 that chris ho gave you says she is a widow but does name Robert Lambley as her father??

I cannot see a marriage for a Lambley to anyone called Sarah or a Sarah Lambley with a father called Robert so is this bit made up perhaps?

jax

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Dec 2010 21:40

Deaths Jun 1853
Faulkner Sarah Hackney 1b 175

?????
Deaths Jun 1872
FAULKNER Francis 78 Westminster 1a 275 [c1794]


1861 England Census
Name: Francis Faulker
Age: 67
Estimated birth year: abt 1794
Relation: Infirm Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Crayford, Kent, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: Cleveland Street, Fitzroy Square, London

Occupation: Calico Printer [This time 'printer' is very clear. Calico isn't as good, but I think it is right.]

Condition as to marriage: widower

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel: Strand Union Workhouse




1871 England Census
Name: Francis Faulkner
Age: 77
Estimated birth year: abt 1794
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Oxfordshire, England
Civil Parish: St James Westminster
Ecclesiastical parish: St John The Baptist
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Westminster
Sub-registration district: Golden Square
ED, institution, or vessel: Westminster Union Workhouse

Occupation: Printer

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Dec 2010 21:30

I wondered about that, but 1851 doesn't look like it. I was trying to think how it could fit into printing.

Ozi

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 11 Dec 2010 20:05

Wonder if it's Calico Printer, as on marriage image, 1841 is very faint.

Chris :)

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Dec 2010 19:27

1851 England Census
Name: Francis Faulkner
Age: 57
Estimated birth year: abt 1794
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah Faulkner
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Crayford, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: Homerton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: 8 Albert St

Occupation: Ca ___[??] Painter [Can't work out first word but it's not cameo]

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: Hackney
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Faulkner 57
Sarah Faulkner 55 - Chalbury, Oxfordshire

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Dec 2010 19:05

????
1841 England Census
Name: Francis Faulkner
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: St John Hackney
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: Retreat Place, Highhill Ferry

Occupation: Cameo Painter [writing is very faint but looks this]

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: Stamford Hill <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Faulkner 45
Sarah Faulkner 45
Neither born in county.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 11 Dec 2010 15:25


James William Faulkner
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1819
Baptism Date: 20 Jun 1819
Father's name: Francis Faulkner
Mother's name: Sarah Faulkner
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hackney St John
Borough: Hackney

(abode on image says Stamford Hill, father's Occ. Printer)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 11 Dec 2010 15:03

Births Mar 1851 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

FAULKNER Frederick Paull London



: Frederick Paull Faulkner
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1861
Baptism Date: 24 Nov 1861
Father's name: James William Faulkner
Mother's name: Sarah Faulkner
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Bartholomew by the Exchange
Borough: City of London

(birthdate given on image as 3rd Jan. 1851)

also baptised on same day as above, Charles Henry born 2nd Nov. 1853 and Robert 6th Dec. 1860


Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 11 Dec 2010 14:48

1851 Census

FAULKNER, James Head Married M 32 1819 Printer
London
Middlesex VIEW
FAULKNER, Mary Wife Married F 21 1830
London
Middlesex VIEW
FAULKNER, James Son M 11 1840 Scholar
London
Middlesex VIEW
FAULKNER, Sarah Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar
London
Middlesex VIEW
FAULKNER, Emma Daughter F 7 1844
London
Middlesex VIEW
FAULKNER, Frederick Son M 0 (3 MOS) 1851
London
Middlesex VIEW
COX, Mary Visitor Widow F 60 1791
Winchester
Hants VIEW

RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1528 Folio:
84 Page:
22

Registration District:
City of London Sub District:
South West Enumeration District:
2B Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Saint Ann Blackfriars Municipal Borough:
London Address:
1, Curriers Row, Saint Ann Blackfriars, London

(James with first wife, 1851)

Name: James Faulkner
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Spouse Name: Mary Cox
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 12 May 1839
Parish: St Pancras Parish Church
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden
Father Name: Fras Faulkner
Spouse Father Name: John Cox

(that marriage, Occupation Printer)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 11 Dec 2010 14:43

1871 Census

FAULKNER, Sarah Head F 43 1828 Not Known VIEW
FAULKNER, Wm L Son M 14 1857 Not Known VIEW
FAULKNER, Robert Son M 10 1861 Not Known VIEW
FAULKNER, Ann E Daughter F 7 1864 Not Known VIEW
FAULKNER, Lydia Daughter F 3 1868 Not Known VIEW

RG number:
RG10 Piece:
732 Folio:
69 Page:
19

Registration District:
Camberwell Sub District:
Peckham Enumeration District:
13 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Camberwell Municipal Borough:
Address:
James Cottage, Camberwell County:
London, Surrey

(seems they had roughly 7 children, according to London Baptisms)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 11 Dec 2010 14:24

1861 Census

FAULKNER, James W Head Married M 41 1820 Lithographic Painter
Hackney
Middlesex VIEW
FAULKNER, Sarah Wife Married F 33 1828
St Andrews Holborn
Middlesex VIEW
FAULKNER, Frederick Son M 10 1851 Scholar
...
London VIEW
FAULKNER, Charles Son M 7 1854 Scholar
...
London VIEW
FAULKNER, Enid Daughter F 6 1855 Scholar
Lambeth
Surrey VIEW
FAULKNER, William Son M 4 1857
Hackney
Middlesex VIEW
FAULKNER, Robert Son M 0 (4M) 1861
Cripplegate
Middlesex VIEW

RG number:
RG09 Piece:
213 Folio:
9 Page:
12

Registration District:
East London Sub District:
2 Cripplegate Enumeration District:
1 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Bartholomew

Civil Parish:
St Giles Cripplegate Municipal Borough:
London Address:
3a, Green Arbour Court, St Giles Cripplegate, London County:
London, Middlesex


William Lambley Faulkner
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1860
Baptism Date: 8 Jul 1860
Father's name: James William Faulkner
Mother's name: Sarah Faulkner
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St James
Borough: Hackney

(image on birthdate given as 8th Dec. 1856)