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26 Nov 2010 01:24 |
My great grandfather William Davis , father of Richard Davis born Dunbridge July 1845 was the stationmaster at either Dunbridge or Dundridge or Dean or possible Bishops Waltham , Hants in 1868. He was living at Dunbridge in 1845. We have done all the usual searches and have not been able to find any information on him or his wife etc. We do have information on Richard Davis his son. Any suggestions or guidance would be appreciated. We are in Montana, USA Thank you and best wishes
Richard J Davis
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Alison
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26 Nov 2010 02:40 |
Hi Richard,
What information have you got on Richard? Date of Birth! Mother?
Might help in the search for his father William
Alison
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Ozibird
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26 Nov 2010 04:20 |
I'm presuming this is him. I would say Richard has his marriage cert as he knows father's name & occupation.
1881 England Census Name: Richard Davis Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Emma Davis Gender: Male Where born: Dunbridge, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Battersea County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 10 Elsley Rd Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Messenger At Great Seal Office Court Of Chancery
Registration district: Wandsworth Sub-registration district: Battersea Household Members: Name Age Richard Davis 38 Emma Davis 43 - Cubbington, Warwickshire Clara J. Davis 11 - Leamington, Warwickshire, England Walter H. Davis 8 - Moorhouse, Kent Fanny A. Davis 7 - Moorhouse, Kent Richard Davis 3 - Battersea, Surrey
Emma & Clara are in St Pancras in 1891. Emma is married but no Richard in sight. Possibly at work.
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Ozibird
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26 Nov 2010 04:27 |
This is the reg'n district for Cubbington.
Marriages Jun 1868 Bishop Jane Warwick 6d 643 Burgess William Warwick 6d 643 Davis Richard Warwick 6d 643 <<<<< Heath Emma Warwick 6d 643 <<<<<
No nearer to finding him in Hampshire with his parents.
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Ozibird
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26 Nov 2010 04:30 |
Mottisfont & Dunbridge railway station is a small station in the village of Dunbridge, Hampshire situated on the Wessex Main Line. It is the closest railway station to Mottisfont Abbey and the village of Mottisfont, and the station was renamed Mottisfont & Dunbridge in 2006 to reflect this. It was previously known simply as "Dunbridge".
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Ozibird
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26 Nov 2010 04:43 |
And this is the reg'n district for Dunbridge, but no Richard.
Births Dec 1839 Davis Mary Romsey &c 7 141 Births Mar 1842 Davis Harriet Romsey 7 166 Births Jun 1845 DAVIS Charles Romsey 7 174 Births Jun 1848 Davis Emily Romsey 7 1* Births Sep 1850 Davis Charles Romsey 7 196
No other variant of Davis for births in Romsey before 1851.
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Ozibird
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26 Nov 2010 04:57 |
Not there in 1851.
1851 England Census Name: William Dearley Age: 51 Estimated birth year: abt 1800 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Eliza Dearley Gender: M (Male) Where born: Irish Trermanaugh, Ireland Civil Parish: Mottisfont Ecclesiastical parish: Winchester County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: Dunbridge Station
Occupation: Station Master
Registration district: Romsey Sub-registration district: Romsey Household Members: Name Age William Dearley 51 Eliza Dearley 50 Rebecca Dearley 21 John Dearley 18- Railway Asst Clerk Elizabeth Dearley 13 Sarah Dearley 11 Fanny Dearley 8
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Ozibird
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26 Nov 2010 05:37 |
This is where Dean comes from.
1891 England Census Name: Richard Davis Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Emma Davis Gender: Male Where born: Dean, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Battersea Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
Occupation: Messenger of the Great Seal, Chancery Division High Court of Justice
Registration district: Wandsworth Sub-registration district: West Battersea Household Members: Name Age Richard Davis 45 Emma Davis 53 Francis A Davis 18 - Pupil Teacher Richard J Davis 13 - Scholar
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Richard
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1 Dec 2010 10:52 |
Hi Alison This information that Ozibird sent me is correct but I had already colllected this (but it had taken me a long time!) Still no further foward on William Davis but I am continuing my search. If you have any other suggestions that would be helpful.
Best wishes
Richard
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Lindsey*
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1 Dec 2010 11:53 |
What exactly is the wording for fathers occupation on the certificate ? Does it actually say Dunbridge, in order to attain station master you have to start as porter and work up, then the job was there for life, from what I can see the branch line was only opened 1866, so he would need to have worked on a main line before that ? Often father's occupations were embellished so he could just have easily been a clerk or guard absolutely anywhere.
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Choccy
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1 Dec 2010 12:41 |
here is Richard in 1911 with a second wife - it might be interesting to see his father's stated occupation in 1895
DAVIS, Richard Head Married M 66 1845 Pensioned Messenger Of The Great Seal Dunbridge Hants VIEW DAVIS, Sarah Elizabeth Wife Married 16 years F 57 1854 London Westminster VIEW BURGESS, Dorothy May Servant Single F 17 1894 Servant Domestic Lydd Kent VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 4810 Reference: RG14PN4810 RG78PN207 RD71 SD1 ED5 SN38 Registration District: Eastbourne Sub District: Westham Enumeration District: 5 Parish: Willingdon Address: St Moritz Church Street Willingdon County: Sussex
possible marriage -
Marriages Jun 1895 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BIRD Henry St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 854 >>>>>>Davis Richard St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 854 >>>>>>Perry Sarah Elizabeth St Geo H Sq 1a 854 Tracey Annie Kennedy St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 854
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Choccy
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1 Dec 2010 13:25 |
I keep being drawn to this one - I can't find them on any other census - perhaps someone else can
1851
DALTON, William Head Married M 35 1816 Station Agent Grimstone Yorkshire VIEW DALTON, Jane Wife Married F 37 1814 Ollerton Nottinghamshire VIEW DALTON, William Son M 6 1845 Maltbey Yorkshire VIEW >>>>>DALTON, Richard Son Unmarried M 3 1848 Mottisfont Hampshire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: HO107 Piece: 1672 Folio: 14 Page: 20 Registration District: Stockbridge Sub District: Broughton Enumeration District: 1 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: West Dean Municipal Borough: Address: Station, Hampshire, West Dean County: Hampshire
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Lindsey*
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1 Dec 2010 13:39 |
could this be her in 1861 ?
1861 England Census about Jane Davis Name: Jane Davis [Jane Staniland] Age: 46 Estimated birth year: abt 1815 Relation: Daughter Mother's name: Mary Staniland Gender: Female Where born: Allerton, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Maltby County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image Registration district: Rotherham Sub-registration district: Maltby ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 64 Household Members: Name Age Mary Staniland 80 Jane Davis 46 widow Catherine Staniland 26 Richard Davis 13 Mathew Cousin 20 George Alexander 23 View Original Record
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I really want this to be him !
Births Sep 1847 (>99%) Dalton Richard Romsey 7 171
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Ozibird
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1 Dec 2010 21:25 |
Goodness me, Choccy & Lindsey, you've done some great detective work. Looks like you've hit pay dirt.
Is this a possibility?
Marriages Sep 1855 CLARK Thomas St Geo Sk 1d 158 Dalton Jane St. Geo. Sk 1d 158 Davis Elizabeth St Geo Sk 1d 158 Davis William St Geo Sq 1d 158
The district St Geo Sk is an alternative name for St George Southwark. >>>>> "The volume 1d is not valid for district St George Hanover Square in the year 1855 and therefore there may be an error in the GRO index or in the transcription. " - freebmd
Deaths Sep 1853 Dalton William George St George Southwark 1d 100
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Choccy
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1 Dec 2010 21:45 |
afraid to say that Jane Dalton married Thomas Clark -
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: Jane Dalton Spouse Name: Thomas Clark Spouse Age: Full Age Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 02 Sep 1855 Parish: St George the Martyr County: Surrey Borough: Southwark Father Name: William Dalton Spouse Father Name: George Clark
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Ozibird
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1 Dec 2010 21:51 |
Oh well, it got the blood racing for a few seconds.
Thanks, Choccy.
Ozi
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Richard
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2 Dec 2010 10:59 |
Choccy/Lindsey/Ozibird I really appreciate your interest
Wording on certificate is stationmaster and we did extensive searches in Railway records but never found William. The information on Richard is correct (he is WIlliam's son) I understand Dunbridge is about 20 miles from Brockenhuirst which is in the Forest of Dean. Apparrently Comyns published a book which covers life in that area in 1800's and has lots of names. I am trying to get this data. I have found one William in Brockenhurst in 1818 but no record of his marriage or chidlren This has proved to be qjuite a challenge. My own father Richard died in 1943 a few months before I was born. I ws able to trace him and his father also Richard (who married Sarah) but nothing on WIlliam. Best wishes Richard
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30 Dec 2010 12:23 |
Happy New Year and many thanks to each of you for your guidance and support in trying to find my great grand father. I am now focused on trying to find the brith certificate for my grandfather Richard Davis whom it would appear was born in Dunbridge/Dundridge in July 1842/1845. There should be information on his father William Davis on that certificate. I was advised that that the London and Southwestern Railway actually covered the counties of Hants, Wilts, Somerset, Devon, Dorset and Surrey and as Lindsey indicated above he might have been a porter somewhere before moving to Montisfont. Best wishes
Richard
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Ozibird
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30 Dec 2010 19:10 |
I've been looking at the image of the 1851 that Choccy found. It actually is Dalson. Son William is born in Maltby, Yorkshire, and this looks like him.
record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 name: William Henry Davis gender: Male baptism/christening date: 30 Mar 1845 baptism/christening place: Maltby, (near Rothertham), York, England father's name: William Davis mother's name: Jane indexing project (batch) number: I00813-5 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 6343984
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30 Dec 2010 19:33 |
This is the closest I can come to Richard.
record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 name: Richard Dawson gender: Male baptism/christening date: 15 Aug 1847 baptism/christening place: Mottisfont, Hampshire, England father's name: William Dawson mother's name: Jane indexing project (batch) number: I03960-7 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1596211
The above fits with the birth reg'n Lindsey found for Richard Dalton.
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