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A tree on Ancestry has Frederick Bray born Jan. 1883, England, parents Frederick Henry Bray & Martha Turner.
He married Louisa Warwick, had 2 children, Margaret (1911-1968)) and Irene Eleanor (1918-1975).
It says Frederick died Jan. 1967, Hamilton, Ontario.

This marriage in 1908?

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1926
about Louisa Warwick
Name: Louisa Warwick
Birth Place: Hampton Hill Middlesex Eng
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Father Name: Chas Warwick
Mother Name: Susan Martin
Spouse Name: Fred'k Henry Bray
Spouse's Age: 26
Spouse Birth Place: London England
Spouse Father Name: Fred'k Henry Bray
Spouse Mother Name: Martha Turner Bray
Marriage Date: 8 Jun 1908
Marriage Location: Wentworth
Marriage County: Wentworth
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS932_138

But surely the Frederick we are looking for is the son of Thomas and Sarah?

I know, Astra, but this thread has confused me right from the start!
It's just too much of a coincidence That there's a Frederick & Louisa Bray who were born in England and living in Hamilton/Wentworth, Ontario.

I don't know when the children were born that was passed to me by my long deceased parents,I believe the details of them arriving in Canada are the one posted on this thread 24Nov aboard The Empress of Ireland.The childrens names were Molly and Louise

I think you have all of this, TREVOR, I'm just trying to get it straight in my head. Evidently the marriage in Ontario was not your Frederick.

Back to Square One.
I believe this is your Frederick?
1891 census
8 Orpingley Rd., St. Mary, Islington, London
Thomas Bray, head, 45, tailor, born Not Known
Sarah, wife, 46, born Gloucestershire, Gloucester
Bertha, dau, 14, tailoress apprentice, born London, Kentish Town
Willie, son, 12, grocer's errand boy, born Middlesex, Finchley
Alice, dau, 10, born "
***Frederick, son, 8, born London, Pimlico

So in 1901 his mother has remarried and he's a stepson.
1901 census
8 Orpingley Rd., islington
Thomas Parratt, head, 54
Sarah, wife, 54
William Bray, stepson, 22
Alice Maud Bray, stepdau, 21
Frederick Bray, stepson, 19
Louisa Turner, niece, 17
All born London except Thomas born Brighton.

Sarah's remarriage:
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Sarah Bray
Name: Sarah Bray
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Spouse Name: Thomas Parrott
Spouse Age: 44
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 18 Oct 1890
Parish: Holy Trinity, Finchley Road
County: London
Borough: Barnet
Father Name: John Turner
Spouse Father Name: George Parrott

Original says she's a widow, her father a blacksmith, her address Edmonton.

Hi Margarett,
Yes this is my family Frederick married before going to Canada but Idon't know if the children were born in the u.k. or Canada as I said the only info. I have is written on a piece of paper left by my late mother.

But that is the son of Henry Bray and Martha Turner and not Thomas and Sarah.

N o sorry look at 1891 census in this thread Thomas head wife Sarah Frederick aged 8 born Pimlico

Yes Trevor. But the Frederick in Canada is the son of Henry Bray and Martha Turner.

nooooo my Fred was married before he went to Canada see page 2 of this thread details posted by Margaret on 24th Nov