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Hi;

I wonder if anyone can help me find members of the DE MALIGNY family please.

EMILE DE MALIGNY b1851 - French subject. married GRACE BAILEY( b 1854 in Winchmore Hill, London.) in1876 in London. They had 7 children :-

Charles Eugene 1878 - 1960
Jeanne Matilda 1879 - 1963 - My grt uncles wife
Raymond Alain 1883 - Dropped the "de"
Emile Henri 1884 - 1884
Bertie Maurice 1885
Harold Adolphe 1889 - 1921
Margueritte Irene 1895

Emile's mother Mary De Maligny b 1828 is a French Subject and living with him in 1901

In 1901 the family lived in Croydon where Emile is a professor of languages. This is the only record I can find of them under Maligny or De Maligny - they seem to have vanished.

Grace died in 1920 and Emile married again in 1921 and died in 1932 but I cant find either in the probate records.

Harold married Edith Hilda Sanders in 1910, Margueritte married John Halifax Lind in 1914 and Jeanne Matilda married my gtr uncle Harry Clifford Butt.

I have found a few Maligny's but no De Maligny's but I can't place them with any of mine as there isn't enough information. As it is an unusual name I imagine that they are connected somehow.

Any ideas as to who these may be - Winifred J Maligny, Millicent W A Maligny, Edith H Maligny, Millicent J Maligny and Emily Maligny - some found in marriages and some in death records but are they connected to my De Maligny family.

If anyone can help find the missing census records including 1911 or find any more info on them I would be very grateful.

Thank you

Rosie

Census 1911: Emile

census says seven children born of the marriage; two deceased by time of census 1911.

DE MALIGNY, Emile Head Married M 58 1853 Mercantile Clerk France Resident French .
DE MALIGNY, Grace Wife Married 34 years F 56 1855 Colchester .
DE MALIGNY, Marguerite Daughter Single F 16 1895 Thornton Heath Croydon .
CHAPMAN, Ellen Boarder Widow F 59 1852 Cambridge .
STEPHENS, Clara Jessie Single F 16 1895 General Domestic Norwood London .

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Registration District:
Croydon Sub District:
South Croydon Enumeration District:
38 Parish:
Croydon

Address:
Boa Vista Woodmanstone Road Purley County:
Surrey

Harold in census 1911:


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REYNOLDS, Robert Head Married 8 years M 48 1863 Company Promoter Cape Colony S Africa Visitor .
REYNOLDS, Rosa Alice Wife Married F 33 1878 Housewife London Middlesex .
REYNOLDS, Brietta Von Bratt Daughter Single F 7 1904 London Middlesex /
REYNOLDS, Georgia Alexander Daughter Single F 5 1906 London Middlesex .
REYNOLDS, Roberta Rosa Daughter Single F 1 1910 London Middlesex .
>>>DE MALIGNY, Harold Adolph Visitor Married M 24 1887 Actor Surrey Thornton Head .
>>>;DE MALIGNY, Hilda Edith Visitor Married F 25 1886 Actress Bedfordshire Bedford .
WHITLOCK, Mary Ann Servant Single F 61 1850 General Servant London Middlesex .

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Registration District:
Islington Sub District:
Tufnell Enumeration District:
21 Parish:
Islington

Address:
14 Union Road N County:
London

Jeanne Butt nee De Maligny in 1911:


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BUTT, Harry Clifford Head Married M 37 1874 Asssitant Bank Manager Wandsworth Surrey .
>>>BUTT, Jeanne Matilda Wife Married 9 years F 31 1880 Bris Surrey .
BUTT, Harry Raymond Son Single M 8 1903 Croydon Surrey .
BUTT, Leslie Fard Son Single M 3 1908 Coulsdon Surrey .
CAIN, Emma Louisa Servant Single F 19 1892 General Servant Domestic Cla Gate Surrey .

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Registration District:
Croydon Sub District:
Coulsdon Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
Coulsdon

Address:
8 Fanfare Road Coulsdon Surrey

Sorry missed yor post - computer has the gremlins ! Thanks

Will keep looking but this thing is having a crisis at the moment.

Harold's death, which you know already:

Name: MALIGNY
Initials: H A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Royal Army Service Corps
Age: 40
Date of Death: 05/03/1921
Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. Emile Maligny, of Croydon; husband of Edith Hilda Maligny, of 56, Southville Rd., Bedford.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: GG. 2. 35239.
Cemetery: CROYDON (QUEEN'S ROAD) CEMETERY

I have found Emile Henri;s death record but cant find another before 1911. If I enter De Maligny only names beginning with M come up ! Very fustrating

Any other info on the death of Harold ie where he died ?

One of your strays:

Birth:
Name: Winifred J Maligny
Mother's Maiden Surname: Aikman
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1917
Registration district: Hammersmith
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 283

Marriage:
Name: Winifred J Maligny
Spouse Surname: Hampton
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1938
Registration district: Paddington
Registration county (inferred): London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 113
Spouse:Hubert Hampton Maligny Jul-Aug-Sep 1938 Paddington London .

Ah! now to find who her parents were. Why cant I find any more info on Maligny names - there must be more records somewhere!!

can't find more on harold's death - sorry!

Who was Marie - died in your Malignys' locality?

Death: De Maligny Marie 66 Croydon 2a 192 JFM 1902.

Hi Rose,

Here they are in the (1891)..Type....Emile De MALGARY B1853 France with family

(1881) Emile De MELYING B1856 France ...with Grace & two more children ...


Marilyn

Dont know who Marie is but she has the "de" - have to look into that one. I bet if I put her name in I get nothing - which site are you using for your info ?
Thanks for Harold info. x

Stray Winifred married twice - first to Hubert Hampton as above, then:

Name: Winifred J Maligny
Spouse Surname: Munro
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1946
Registration district: Westminster
Registration county (inferred): Middlesex
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 947

Spouse:
Name: Ronald G J Munro
Spouse Surname: Maligny Or Hampton
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1946
Registration district: Westminster
Registration county (inferred): Middlesex
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 947

Marie was freeBMD

What a difference in spelling - havent come across this one. Cheers Marilyn. Will look under these names for other years - you never know !!

Cheers Kucinta

Think that now the info I'm finding is the same as you already have, re stray Maligny/De Maligny marriages and deaths.

Census 1881 Marilyn found:

Name: Emile De Melying
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Grace De Melying
Gender: Male
Where born: France

Civil Parish: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 38 Bengeworth Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Foreign Correspondent & Profs Of French (Author)

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emile De Melying 27
Grace De Melying 25
>>>>Charles E. De Melying 3
Jeanne M. De Melying 1


Note child I've highlighted - his marriage below:

Name: Charles Eugène de Maligny - insurance manager
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Spouse Name: Jane Elise Van Dyke Mose
Spouse Age: 32
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 26 Aug 1913
Parish: St Saviour, Paddington
County: London
Borough: Westminster
>>>>>Father Name: Emile de Maligny gentleman
Spouse Father Name: Henry Mose gentleman

Witnesses: Rosetta Edwina Margaret Usher. John Halifax Lu??

Thats ok Kuciinta - you've helped alot - thanks. Just found a John Maligny marriage in Rochdale, Manchester in 1856 - I dont know when Emile and family came to the uk. Maybe Emile and mother Mary were born in France but father was English - just a thought !

John Halifax Lind is the witness on Charles marriage record - he married Margueritte. Lots of different spellings but obviously the right family

Do you think that De Maligny and Maligny are the saqme families ?

Got it - Marie died in 1902 is Emile's mother.