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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 27 Nov 2010 18:51

Odd thing is I can find no sign of Annie Lockyer before her marriage.

Rose

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 27 Nov 2010 11:32

Possible Marriage for James and Mary Ann?

Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%)
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BARNWELL Louisa Kensington 1a 283
Ellis Edward Kensington 1a 283
>>>LANGMORE Mary Ann Kensington 1a 283
>>>PARKER George Kensington 1a 283

You could get George's birth cert to be sure of his mother's maiden name:


Birth: PARKER George Kensington 1a 124 AMJ 1881.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 27 Nov 2010 11:31

James and Mary Ann Parker in census 1871:

Name: James Parker
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary A Parker
Gender: Male
Where born: Kensington, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 31a
Household schedule number: 408
Household Members: Name Age

James Parker 30
Mary A Parker 21
James Parker 3
Priscilla Parker

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 27 Nov 2010 10:26

George's baptism as posted by Rose was part of a batch job - three of his siblings were baptised at the same time:

Emily Jane Parker 1 Nov 1882 James Parker, Mary Ann Parker Notting Hill St Clement Kensington and Chelsea

George Parker 1 Nov 1882 James Parker, Mary Ann Parker Notting Hill St Clement Kensington and Chelsea

John Parker 1 Nov 1882 James Parker, Mary Ann Parker Notting Hill St Clement Kensington and Chelsea

Priscella Parker 1 Nov 1882 James Parker, Mary Ann Parker Notting Hill St Clement Kensington and Chelsea.

Lucy shared her baptism with sister Mary Ann :

Name: Lucy Parker
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1879
Baptism Date: 27 Jul 1879
Father's name: James Parker
Mother's name: Maryann Parker
Parish or Poor Law Union: Notting Hill St Clement
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea

Name: Mary Ann Parker
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1879
Baptism Date: 27 Jul 1879
Father's name: James Parker
Mother's name: Maryann Parker
Parish or Poor Law Union: Notting Hill St Clement
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea

Mary Ann may have died very young:

Death:Parker Mary Ann 3 Kensington 1a 74 JAS 1880.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 27 Nov 2010 09:43

I agree, the ages also tally well with the 1901 census and with George and Annie's age at the marriage you posted, plus the right length of the marriage, and George's birthplace was given as Kensington in census1891.

Not to mention the fact that George's occupation is given as Laundry Engineer.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 27 Nov 2010 01:32

Thanks Kucinta,

The last one looks good because Annie was born in Barking in 1901.

Rose

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 Nov 2010 23:56

I prefer this one...

Census 1911 - still with first Annie (Lockyer)? Note his occupation - didn't he die in an accident in a laundry???

PARKER, George Head Married M 29 1882 Laundry Engineer Kensington London .
PARKER, Annie Wife Married 11 years F 30 1881 Barking Essex .
PARKER, Annie Daughter F 8 1903 School Wandsworth London .
PARKER, Nellie Daughter F 6 1905 School Wandroworth London .

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Registration District:
Islington Sub District:
Barnsbury Enumeration District:
12 Parish:
Islington

Address:
15 Half Moon Crescent Islington N County:
London

Edit: 6 children born of the marriage, 4 deceased by time of census 1911.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 Nov 2010 23:50

Census 1911 wrong name for wife, possibly right occupation:

PARKER, George Head Married13 years M 34 1877 Wash - House Foreman Middlesex Notting Hill .
PARKER, Rose Wife Married F 34 1877 Middlesex Hammersmith .
PARKER, Florence Daughter F 12 1899 Surrey Croydon .
PARKER, Maud Daughter F 11 1900 Surrey Croydon .
PARKER, George Son M 8 1903 Surrey Croydon .
PARKER, May Daughter F 5 1906 Surrey Croydon .

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Address:
45 Gloucester Road Croydon County:
Surrey

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 Nov 2010 23:47

Will check it out

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 26 Nov 2010 23:44

Kucinta,

Do you have access to the 1911 census. There's a George Parker born Notting Hill in Croydon.

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 26 Nov 2010 23:41

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about George Parker
Name: George Parker
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1882
Baptism Date: 1 Nov 1882
Father's name: James Parker
Mother's name: Mary Ann Parker
Parish or Poor Law Union: Notting Hill St Clement
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea

Birth is listed as April 22nd 1881

Rose

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 Nov 2010 23:34

Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Later edit:

Just to say that in the census 1891 I found, the children of James and Mary Ann Parker were listed in descending order of age EXCEPT FOR '16 yr old' GEORGE.

Once Rose has discovered he is 10, not 16 as mistranscribed, all children including George are in descending order of age. There is already a 16 yr old son John listed in the sequence. If he and george were twins, they would surely have been listed together?

Also, in the marriage Rose found for George Parker and Annie Lockyer, his age is right for aged 10 in the census, and aged 40 at death.

Edit: I overlooked Prescilla on census 1891 who has also been mistranscribd, she is 21 on the image, not 27 as transcribed.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 26 Nov 2010 23:32

Just looked at the image for 1891 and George is 10 so the age does fit.

Rose

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 Nov 2010 23:20

Thanks for that, Rose. My feelings were the same, only the one Lucy Parker - Street marriage, so I feel father James as a labourer has to be right, and the 1891census info seemed to fit, apart from the lack of a Plaistow birthplace for George.

If your marriage to Annie Lockyer is the same George, which looks pretty certain to me, then maybe there is no marriage to Annie Hurry because George was still married to Annie Lockyer and not free to marry again?

Seems rather too much of a coincidence that the witnesses and address are the same on Lucy Parker's marriage and George Parker's marriage too.

Age on death cert was only as reliable as the informant.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 26 Nov 2010 23:09

1901 England Census
about George Parker
Name: George Parker
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Annie Parker
Gender: Male
Where born: Notting Hill, London, England

Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Mary, Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 156
Household Members: Name Age
George Parker 20
Annie Parker 21


Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 26 Nov 2010 23:08

There's only one Lucy Parker/Street marriage so that has to be the correct one. Just so happens she has a brother called George. What are the odds?


Given George's age it seems likely he was previously married.

George married Annie Lockyer . Same address on 3 Talbot Mews and same witnesses.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about George Parker
Name: George Parker
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Spouse Name: Annie Lockyer
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 23 Apr 1900
Parish: St Mark, Notting Hill
County: Middlesex
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: James Parker
Spouse Father Name: Henry Lockyer

Rose

Irene

Irene Report 26 Nov 2010 21:24

Evening Kucinta,

Sory for delay in answering. I have checked the information but donot thinlk this is the right family as according to my grandfather death certificate he was 40 year old, at the time of death, which was 21st February 1921.

Thanks for your interest,

Irene

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 23 Nov 2010 23:20

1891?

Name: Lucy Parker
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: James Parker
Mother's name: Mary A Parker
Gender: Female
Where born: Kensington

Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St James Norlands
County/Island: London
Country: England
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Household Members: Name Age
>>>>James Parker 51 labourer c1840 Kensington.
Mary A Parker 49 c1842 Kensington.
James Parker 23
Presulla Parker 27
Eorcly Parker 18
John Parker 16
>>>>Lucy Parker 12 c 1879 Kensington.
>>>>George Parker 16 c1875 kensington.
Edward H Parker 6
William Parker 1


Does the age work for your George??? I realise birthplace is not Plaistow.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 23 Nov 2010 23:01

Yes it does.

Name: William George Street labourer.
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Spouse Name: Lucy Parker
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 01 Aug 1898
Parish: St Mark, Notting Hill
County: Middlesex
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: Charles Street labourer.
Spouse Father Name: James Parker labourer.

Bride & groom's address: 3 Talbot Mews

Gives you sister Lucy Parker as born c1879, you know roughly when George was born from his age at death, with father James a labourer, may help to narrow things down a little .

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 23 Nov 2010 22:59

If all else failed you could get Lucy's marriage cert for her and George's father:

Parker Lucy Kensington 1a 375 JAS 1898.
Street William George Kensington 1a 375 JAS 1898.

I'll see if LMA has the marriage first though.