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27 Nov 2010 18:51 |
Odd thing is I can find no sign of Annie Lockyer before her marriage.
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27 Nov 2010 11:32 |
Possible Marriage for James and Mary Ann?
Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BARNWELL Louisa Kensington 1a 283 Ellis Edward Kensington 1a 283 >>>LANGMORE Mary Ann Kensington 1a 283 >>>PARKER George Kensington 1a 283
You could get George's birth cert to be sure of his mother's maiden name:
Birth: PARKER George Kensington 1a 124 AMJ 1881.
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27 Nov 2010 11:31 |
James and Mary Ann Parker in census 1871:
Name: James Parker Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary A Parker Gender: Male Where born: Kensington, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Kensington Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: Kensington Town ED, institution, or vessel: 31a Household schedule number: 408 Household Members: Name Age
James Parker 30 Mary A Parker 21 James Parker 3 Priscilla Parker
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27 Nov 2010 10:26 |
George's baptism as posted by Rose was part of a batch job - three of his siblings were baptised at the same time:
Emily Jane Parker 1 Nov 1882 James Parker, Mary Ann Parker Notting Hill St Clement Kensington and Chelsea
George Parker 1 Nov 1882 James Parker, Mary Ann Parker Notting Hill St Clement Kensington and Chelsea
John Parker 1 Nov 1882 James Parker, Mary Ann Parker Notting Hill St Clement Kensington and Chelsea
Priscella Parker 1 Nov 1882 James Parker, Mary Ann Parker Notting Hill St Clement Kensington and Chelsea.
Lucy shared her baptism with sister Mary Ann :
Name: Lucy Parker Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1879 Baptism Date: 27 Jul 1879 Father's name: James Parker Mother's name: Maryann Parker Parish or Poor Law Union: Notting Hill St Clement Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Name: Mary Ann Parker Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1879 Baptism Date: 27 Jul 1879 Father's name: James Parker Mother's name: Maryann Parker Parish or Poor Law Union: Notting Hill St Clement Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Mary Ann may have died very young:
Death:Parker Mary Ann 3 Kensington 1a 74 JAS 1880.
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27 Nov 2010 09:43 |
I agree, the ages also tally well with the 1901 census and with George and Annie's age at the marriage you posted, plus the right length of the marriage, and George's birthplace was given as Kensington in census1891.
Not to mention the fact that George's occupation is given as Laundry Engineer.
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27 Nov 2010 01:32 |
Thanks Kucinta,
The last one looks good because Annie was born in Barking in 1901.
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26 Nov 2010 23:56 |
I prefer this one...
Census 1911 - still with first Annie (Lockyer)? Note his occupation - didn't he die in an accident in a laundry???
PARKER, George Head Married M 29 1882 Laundry Engineer Kensington London . PARKER, Annie Wife Married 11 years F 30 1881 Barking Essex . PARKER, Annie Daughter F 8 1903 School Wandsworth London . PARKER, Nellie Daughter F 6 1905 School Wandroworth London .
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registration District: Islington Sub District: Barnsbury Enumeration District: 12 Parish: Islington Address: 15 Half Moon Crescent Islington N County: London Edit: 6 children born of the marriage, 4 deceased by time of census 1911.
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26 Nov 2010 23:50 |
Census 1911 wrong name for wife, possibly right occupation:
PARKER, George Head Married13 years M 34 1877 Wash - House Foreman Middlesex Notting Hill . PARKER, Rose Wife Married F 34 1877 Middlesex Hammersmith . PARKER, Florence Daughter F 12 1899 Surrey Croydon . PARKER, Maud Daughter F 11 1900 Surrey Croydon . PARKER, George Son M 8 1903 Surrey Croydon . PARKER, May Daughter F 5 1906 Surrey Croydon .
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address: 45 Gloucester Road Croydon County: Surrey
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26 Nov 2010 23:47 |
Will check it out
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26 Nov 2010 23:44 |
Kucinta,
Do you have access to the 1911 census. There's a George Parker born Notting Hill in Croydon.
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26 Nov 2010 23:41 |
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about George Parker Name: George Parker Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1882 Baptism Date: 1 Nov 1882 Father's name: James Parker Mother's name: Mary Ann Parker Parish or Poor Law Union: Notting Hill St Clement Borough: Kensington and Chelsea Birth is listed as April 22nd 1881
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26 Nov 2010 23:34 |
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Later edit:
Just to say that in the census 1891 I found, the children of James and Mary Ann Parker were listed in descending order of age EXCEPT FOR '16 yr old' GEORGE.
Once Rose has discovered he is 10, not 16 as mistranscribed, all children including George are in descending order of age. There is already a 16 yr old son John listed in the sequence. If he and george were twins, they would surely have been listed together?
Also, in the marriage Rose found for George Parker and Annie Lockyer, his age is right for aged 10 in the census, and aged 40 at death.
Edit: I overlooked Prescilla on census 1891 who has also been mistranscribd, she is 21 on the image, not 27 as transcribed.
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26 Nov 2010 23:32 |
Just looked at the image for 1891 and George is 10 so the age does fit.
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26 Nov 2010 23:20 |
Thanks for that, Rose. My feelings were the same, only the one Lucy Parker - Street marriage, so I feel father James as a labourer has to be right, and the 1891census info seemed to fit, apart from the lack of a Plaistow birthplace for George.
If your marriage to Annie Lockyer is the same George, which looks pretty certain to me, then maybe there is no marriage to Annie Hurry because George was still married to Annie Lockyer and not free to marry again?
Seems rather too much of a coincidence that the witnesses and address are the same on Lucy Parker's marriage and George Parker's marriage too.
Age on death cert was only as reliable as the informant.
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26 Nov 2010 23:09 |
1901 England Census about George Parker Name: George Parker Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1881 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Annie Parker Gender: Male Where born: Notting Hill, London, England Civil Parish: Newington Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: St Saviour Southwark Sub-registration district: St Mary, Newington ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 156 Household Members: Name Age George Parker 20 Annie Parker 21 Rose
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26 Nov 2010 23:08 |
There's only one Lucy Parker/Street marriage so that has to be the correct one. Just so happens she has a brother called George. What are the odds?
Given George's age it seems likely he was previously married.
George married Annie Lockyer . Same address on 3 Talbot Mews and same witnesses.
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about George Parker Name: George Parker Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1881 Spouse Name: Annie Lockyer Spouse Age: 20 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 23 Apr 1900 Parish: St Mark, Notting Hill County: Middlesex Borough: Kensington and Chelsea Father Name: James Parker Spouse Father Name: Henry Lockyer Rose
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26 Nov 2010 21:24 |
Evening Kucinta,
Sory for delay in answering. I have checked the information but donot thinlk this is the right family as according to my grandfather death certificate he was 40 year old, at the time of death, which was 21st February 1921.
Thanks for your interest,
Irene
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23 Nov 2010 23:20 |
1891?
Name: Lucy Parker Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1879 Relation: Daughter Father's name: James Parker Mother's name: Mary A Parker Gender: Female Where born: Kensington Civil Parish: Kensington Ecclesiastical parish: St James Norlands County/Island: London Country: England : Household Members: Name Age >>>>James Parker 51 labourer c1840 Kensington. Mary A Parker 49 c1842 Kensington. James Parker 23 Presulla Parker 27 Eorcly Parker 18 John Parker 16 >>>>Lucy Parker 12 c 1879 Kensington. >>>>George Parker 16 c1875 kensington. Edward H Parker 6 William Parker 1 Does the age work for your George??? I realise birthplace is not Plaistow.
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23 Nov 2010 23:01 |
Yes it does.
Name: William George Street labourer. Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Spouse Name: Lucy Parker Spouse Age: 19 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 01 Aug 1898 Parish: St Mark, Notting Hill County: Middlesex Borough: Kensington and Chelsea Father Name: Charles Street labourer. Spouse Father Name: James Parker labourer.
Bride & groom's address: 3 Talbot Mews
Gives you sister Lucy Parker as born c1879, you know roughly when George was born from his age at death, with father James a labourer, may help to narrow things down a little .
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23 Nov 2010 22:59 |
If all else failed you could get Lucy's marriage cert for her and George's father:
Parker Lucy Kensington 1a 375 JAS 1898. Street William George Kensington 1a 375 JAS 1898.
I'll see if LMA has the marriage first though.
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