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Joseph John 1918 birth look up

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Cathy

Cathy Report 28 Nov 2010 16:10

Nudge up for Michelle and a wave to Mary ~~~~~~~

Cathy

Cathy Report 26 Nov 2010 22:14

Hi Michelle,

I have sent you a PM twice but they are unopened!
Please get in touch as I have good news about Kew.....

Kind regards,

Cathy x

Contrary Mary

Contrary Mary Report 15 Nov 2010 22:05


Awww, bless you and thank you Michelle. :-)))

It's been an absolute pleasure helping you. You stayed around to answer questions. You talked to older relatives to find out answers to questions asked of you when you didn't know......all that makes it so much easier for any of us here to help you.

Mary xxx

Michelle

Michelle Report 15 Nov 2010 21:51

I would like to give special thanks to Mary and Cath and every one that helped me find out about my grand mother/father family

I have been trying to find out about them for years. I am already in contact with a family member in this site i never new i had until today. I still have not finished my search not by far and want to make my tree as accurate as possible and i need all the help i can get, without the help of Mary i still be staring at my grandfathers death record.

I feel happy and blessed to have people like you help me, i think all the nicest people in the world are here at this site ready to help without blinking a eye i am forever grateful xxxxxxxxxx

Thank you xxx



Contrary Mary

Contrary Mary Report 14 Nov 2010 22:34


Maureen - you're right, it's not. :-((

But, FMP have it transcribed as Vera M and although their image isn't perfect it is slightly better than Ancestry's, and it looks more as though it's an M than a W on there.

Mary

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 14 Nov 2010 22:08

I can only say that her middle initial is certainly not crystal clear on the actual GRO image.

Maureen

Michelle

Michelle Report 14 Nov 2010 21:00

The missing Vera W John is still bugging me! I can't find anything for her at all. :-((

i wonder if Vera middle intial was spelt wrong and could of been M instead of W ?

Michelle

Michelle Report 14 Nov 2010 20:49

One thing my uncle said, his father was a very secretive man and so was his father he said Joe has a brother (not even my mother new this) but had never met him and is not sure if he was younger or older but he does think he was born in wales and someone with the name Barri or Barry John a rugby player was related to joe and the place called gorfeinon toward llanelli
means something

Michelle

Michelle Report 14 Nov 2010 20:45

Thanks Cath i got your private message thats brilliant

Yes Mary hope and pray we can find Vera records and her poss marriage and kids x

Michelle

Michelle Report 14 Nov 2010 20:44

Mary i spoke with my uncle Howl and explained everything to him about Josieh my ggrandfather and my grandfather his son he thinks this could be him because they both had the same first names and later on my ggreat grandfather Joseih was known as Joseph and this also looks like what my grandfather did changed his name to Joseph, he also said that my ggrandfather was born in wales and his 2nd wife was born in wales both moved to london later and they were living there by the mid to late 1940s cos my aunty went up there and met him and we have family in camarthen (which i did not know about) where the 2nd marriage took place so this marriage must be correct and later they moved to london, so the death of Lydia in London could be right so thank you. i have also found out my grandfather joined the merchant sea navy when he was 14 or 15 he lied about his age and over time he became the Chief Steward..

I also want to say that when i mentioned the name Violet for my ggreat grandfathers first marriage this name rang a bell again to my uncle so again we must be on the right track cos my uncle said all that i told him has rang many bells

Contrary Mary

Contrary Mary Report 14 Nov 2010 19:03


The missing Vera W John is still bugging me! I can't find anything for her at all. :-((

Mary

Cathy

Cathy Report 14 Nov 2010 17:29

Hi Michelle,

have sent you a PM (private message) which will come to your inbox.

Cathy

Michelle

Michelle Report 14 Nov 2010 16:10

Thanks Mary

sorry for delay was on phone to my aunts partner questioning him cos marion is still out she will be back by 5 pm so i will call back and find out more shortly,

if my aunt visited him as a child in London then i would choose the chelsea marriage but until i spoke with marion and howl i am not sure, i will phone howl next see if hes back indoors

thanks so much for ur help and patience xx

Contrary Mary

Contrary Mary Report 14 Nov 2010 15:40


Hi Michelle

Hmmmm, maybe I am on the right track??

Marriage and death - and I can't find any other Lydia A M marrying a John, so perhaps??

Name: Lydia A M Burridge
Spouse Surname: John
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1923
Registration district: Llanelly
Registration county (inferred): Carmarthenshire
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 2269
Find Spouse: Josiah John


Name: Lydia A M John
Death Registration Month/Year: 1968
Age at death (estimated): 76
Registration district: Chelsea
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5a
Page: 667


Mary

Michelle

Michelle Report 14 Nov 2010 15:35

Yes i agree we need the marriage certifcate and the TNA records should help to i just wish i could buy them now and download the straight away!

I waiting for marion and howl to answer the phones being the oldest they will know more, i will keep trying x

Contrary Mary

Contrary Mary Report 14 Nov 2010 15:29

Hi Michelle

Yes, it's always possible that ggfather was known as Joseph.

It's also possible that ggfather lived in London for a while, but didn't die there.

I really think you need to get the marriage cert for Olwen and Joseph before we can get any further........no point going down the wrong line is there. :-((

Mary

Michelle

Michelle Report 14 Nov 2010 15:01

oh i hope not cos everything at beginning makes so much sense, i trying aunt marion again and uncle howl see what they say x

it also makes sense it got to be him cos Josephs middle name is William and in the census records the i saw the name william many times, soi still think it could be x

Maybe great grandfather changed his name to Joseph later on aswell?

Contrary Mary

Contrary Mary Report 14 Nov 2010 14:59


Hmmmm, there are no Josiah John deaths in the London area.........there are a couple of Joseph John deaths after 1947 in London.

So perhaps I am on the wrong track with the birth of Joseph being Josiah?? :-((

Mary

Michelle

Michelle Report 14 Nov 2010 14:52

Mary just so you know aunt marion was born in 1941 she is eldest of 8 kids born from olwen and joe x

Contrary Mary

Contrary Mary Report 14 Nov 2010 14:52


No worries Michelle - we're sorted now :-)))))

What year was your aunt born?

Mary