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Carol
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8 Nov 2010 19:52 |
please could you find the children of solomon mills 1771 Tudeley and capel tonbridge kent and mary squibb 1769 .I think they ended up living in swanley village kent .
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8 Nov 2010 20:13 |
Carol
the earliest census on the web is the 1841
most children wil have left home
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8 Nov 2010 20:16 |
ok thanks sylvia
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8 Nov 2010 20:16 |
from a family tree on ancestry
Solomon and Mary married in February 1795 in Middlesex
Solomon died March 1824
do you ahve the names of any children???
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8 Nov 2010 20:22 |
from ancestry.co.uk
Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837
Name: Solomon Mills Spouse: Mary Squib Marriage Date: 1795 Parish: Southwark
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Solomon Mills Spouse Name: Mary Squib Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 23 Feb 1795 Parish: St Saviour County: Surrey Borough: Southwark
from image:-
Solomon Of This Parish Bachelor
Mary Of This Parish Spinster
Married by Banns
Witnesses:- Richd Squib and Marie Venust (???sp)
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8 Nov 2010 20:50 |
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from ancestry
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: Samuel Walter Mills Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1813 Christening Date: 30 May 1813 Christening Place: Shoreham, Kent, England Father's name: Solomon Mills Mother's name: Mary
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Carol
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8 Nov 2010 20:54 |
thankyou all so much
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Ozibird
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8 Nov 2010 20:59 |
This could be the family.
1841 England Census Name: Mary Mills Age: 70 Estimated birth year: abt 1771 Gender: Female Where born: Kent, England Civil Parish: Shoreham Hundred: Codsheath County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Shoreham St
Occupation: Butcher
Registration district: Seven Oaks Sub-registration district: Shoreham Household Members: Name Age Mary Mills 70 Thomas Mills 40 - Butcher J. Richard Mills 40 - Butcher J. Alfred Mills 35 - Butcher J. Ann Mills 30
These 3 are also with the household. Alfred Martin abt 1838 Kent, England Shoreham, Kent [possibly a grandchild] Jane Wackling abt 1826 Kent, England Shoreham, Kent - F.S. William Richard abt 1826 Kent, England Shoreham, Kent - M.S.
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8 Nov 2010 21:02 |
???????????????
could this be mary and some of her children on the 1841???
The ages on the 1841 are rounded down to the nearest 5 (in most cases anyway!) ..... hence why Thomas and Richard are both shown as age 40. Also, relationships are not given
1841 Census
Name: Mary Mills Age: 70 Estimated birth year: abt 1771 Gender: Female Where born: Kent, England Civil Parish: Shoreham Hundred: Codsheath County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Seven Oaks Sub-registration district: Shoreham
Mary Mills 70 Butcher Thomas Mills 40 Butcher Richard Mills 40 Butcher Alfred Mills 35 Butcher Ann Mills 30 Butcher
Address:- Hauham St
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8 Nov 2010 21:02 |
snap Ozi!!
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8 Nov 2010 21:06 |
Snap again, Sylvia?
1851 England Census Name: Richard Mills Age: 57 Estimated birth year: abt 1794 Relation: Visitor Gender: Male Where born: Shoreham, Kent, England Civil Parish: Newington Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: 52 St George St
Occupation: Butcher
Registration district: Newington Sub-registration district: Trinity Household Members: Name Age John Mills 45 - Commercial Traveller Gloves [I'm not too sure of the last word as the ink on the original is very faded.]; Shoreham, Kent Jane Mills 40 Mary Jane Mills 11 Ann Eliza Mills 9 John Henry Mills 16 Frederic Mills Richard Mills 57 Julia Crouch 17 - servant
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8 Nov 2010 21:07 |
IF that 1841 is correct ... and that could be a big IF .... here is Alfred in 1851
1851 Census
Name: Alfred Mills Age: 48 Estimated birth year: abt 1803 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Shoreham, Kent, England Civil Parish: Shoreham County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Sevenoaks Sub-registration district: Sevenoaks Alfred Mills 48 Butcher Thomas Mills 53 b.ca 1798, Shoreham, Brother, Butcher Ann Mills 40 b.ca 1811, Shoreham, Sister <<<< House Keeper written in then crossed out Walter Martin 12 Visitor, b.ca 1839, Brastead, Kent Emma Townsend 19 Servant
Address:- Part of Shoreham Village
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8 Nov 2010 21:08 |
No!!!
I went after Alfred!!
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8 Nov 2010 21:13 |
Going for the younger man, hey?
1861 England Census Name: Richard Mills Age: 61 Estimated birth year: abt 1800 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sophia Mills Gender: Male Where born: Shoreham, Kent, England Civil Parish: Otford County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Village
Occupation: Butcher
Condition as to marriage: Mar
Registration district: Sevenoaks Sub-registration district: Shoreham Household Members: Name Age Richard Mills 61 Sophia Mills 65 - Butchers wife; Otford, Kent Walter Manwaring 24 - son; Miller (Journeyman); Otford, Kent
Marriages Dec 1845 MANWARING Sophia Tonbridge 5 767 Mills Richard Tonbridge 5 767
1851 England Census Name: Sophia Mills Age: 55 Estimated birth year: abt 1796 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: David Pryer Gender: Female Where born: Otford, Kent, England Civil Parish: Otford County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Village
Occupation: Butcher's wife
Condition as to marriage: Mar
Registration district: Sevenoaks Sub-registration district: Sevenoaks Household Members: Name Age David Pryer 60 [Previous Household] Sophia Mills 55 Elizabeth Manwaring 29 Walter Manwaring 14
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8 Nov 2010 21:14 |
oo'er
I missed those extra people in the household on the 1841
but look how it connects with the 1851
you found
Alfred Martin abt 1838 Kent, England Shoreham, Kent ................ and suggested possibly a grandchild
In 1851 there was
Walter Martin 12 Visitor, b.ca 1839, Brastead, Kent
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8 Nov 2010 21:18 |
yep
I must be a cougar!
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8 Nov 2010 21:25 |
1871 England Census Name: Richard Mills Age: 71 Estimated birth year: abt 1800 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sophia Mills Gender: Male Where born: Shoreham, Kent, England Civil Parish: Otford Town: Otford County/Island: Kent Country: England
Occupation: Butcher
Registration district: Sevenoaks Sub-registration district: Shoreham Household Members: Name Age Richard Mills 71 Sophia Mills 75
1881 England Census Name: Richard Mills Age: 81 Estimated birth year: abt 1800 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sophia Mills Gender: Male Where born: Shoreham, Kent, England Civil Parish: Otford County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Otford Street Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Butcher
Registration district: Sevenoaks Sub-registration district: Shoreham Household Members: Name Age Richard Mills 81 Sophia Mills 85
Deaths Jun 1882 Mills Sophia 86 Sevenoaks 2a 328
Deaths Jun 1883 Mills Richard 84 Sevenoaks 2a 353
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8 Nov 2010 21:27 |
I wish we knew how accurate these family trees are!!
Here are the children as shown on one of those trees .......... but no reall documentation for it all!!
John Mills 1788 – 1865 <<<<<< ????? look at date of birth!
William Mills 1796 – 1869
Thomas Mills 1797 – 1890
Richard Mills 1799 – 1803
Alfred Mills 1802 – 1802
Mary Mills 1804 – 1805
Ann Mills 1807 –
Stephen Mills 1811 – 1812
Samuel Mills 1813 – 1833
They lost a lot of their children
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8 Nov 2010 21:32 |
I don't believe that John Mills b ca 1788 belongs to Solomon and mary
Several of those trees have him marrying a Charlotte .......... and he's an Ag Lab
which just doesn't fit with Butchers ........ especially considering that he was born at least 7 years before Solomon and Mary were married, and they would only have been around 17
Not impossible, I know!
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8 Nov 2010 21:35 |
Also the parish records you found and the 1851 census click so I agree. That is not the son of this Solomon & Mary.
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