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Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 79 Send Message	Georgina	Report	31 Oct 2010 21:00
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 79 Send Message	Hi Mary, Thank goodness for that! After today's research, could she have been Mary Ellen McLean in 1911? She was in 1925 when she married Daniel Long, I thought they had married a long time before that. That's why I can't find a birth record for Jane, I think Mary was Mr McLean's widow in 1911, hopefully. If anyone could find her on the 1911 census it would be fantastic, but please be aware there are many spellings of McLean/MacLean/McClean/MacClean. Many many thanks
Member Since: February 2007 Posts: 4,614 Send Message	Mary	Report	31 Oct 2010 19:43
	No problem mgnv at least we can rule that couple out. Back to the drawing board. Wher the hell was Mary Ellen Farrell born 1891 on 1911 census!!!!!!!!! Maryb
	Researching: Farrar, Jessop, Ward, Booth, Wragg, Walsh.
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 21,069 Send Message	jax	Report	31 Oct 2010 18:08
	The death cert will not give her birth name marriage cert should though jax
	Researching: Nothing much
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 7,623 Send Message	mgnv	Report	31 Oct 2010 17:55
	Sorry Mary, but the chain breaks: Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%) Jones Mary E Salford 8d 173 Lee Israel Salford 8d 173 McLean Robert Salford 8d 173 Peacock Annie Salford 8d 173 Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1911 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference JONES Mary E LEE Israel Salford St Stephen Salford C32/5/146
Member Since: February 2007 Posts: 4,614 Send Message	Mary	Report	31 Oct 2010 17:14
	I thought it was a possibility seeing as we can't find her in 1911. Although I have been checking births for Farrell/Jones in that time span and there were Charles W Jones 1912 nee Farrell, maybe named after his dad and twins Doris and Elsie Jones nee farrell 1913. If Mary Ellen and Mr Mclean had child Patrick Mclean nee farrell 1913 it seems that the Mary Ellen who married Charles William Jones is not our Mary ellen afteral. Not trying to confuse you,just trying to make sense of why we can't find Mclean/Farrell marriage. Maryb. Me thinks I need my tea,curry house shortly.
	Researching: Farrar, Jessop, Ward, Booth, Wragg, Walsh.
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 79 Send Message	Georgina	Report	31 Oct 2010 17:05
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 79 Send Message	Well ladies, Many thanks for all your help. That let a skeleton out of the cupboard didn't it? How wonderful! I'm going to send off for Jane's death certifcate now which should give me her birth name and someone has already established her date of birth so I presume I can get the birth certificate with that info. Next, I shall send for Mary Ellen's marriage certificate and delve deeper into her interesting past! Once again, Thank you x
Member Since: February 2007 Posts: 4,614 Send Message	Mary	Report	31 Oct 2010 16:18
	Robert Mclean married A/M/J 8d 173 1911 in Salford Lancs on same page is Mary E Jones. Mary Ellen Farrell married J/A/S 1909 Chorlton Lancs 8c 1525 on same page is Charles William Jones. What do you think ladies? Maryb
	Researching: Farrar, Jessop, Ward, Booth, Wragg, Walsh.
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 21,069 Send Message	jax	Report	31 Oct 2010 16:16
	I did think that could be the case but was just checking jax
	Researching: Nothing much
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 79 Send Message	Georgina	Report	31 Oct 2010 16:16
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 79 Send Message	Just wondering then if Jane was incorrectly registered under Farrill. I can't find anything for her using the correct date of birth given earlier under Farrell or Long.
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 5,276 Send Message	ChristineinPortugal	Report	31 Oct 2010 16:11
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 5,276 Send Message	The one in 1927 is Farrill. Christine
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 79 Send Message	Georgina	Report	31 Oct 2010 16:10
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 79 Send Message	Hi Jax, I've just looked on BMD for my mother's birth in 1927 (Jane's sister) and Farrell is incorrectly spelt as Farrill.
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 21,069 Send Message	jax	Report	31 Oct 2010 16:02
	There are quite a few Long/Farrell births after 1926 but not one in 1927 do you use Freebmd? http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl jax
	Researching: Nothing much
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 5,276 Send Message	ChristineinPortugal	Report	31 Oct 2010 15:59
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 5,276 Send Message	There are some McLean/ Farrell births between 1913/1919 in Salford. Christine
Member Since: February 2007 Posts: 4,614 Send Message	Mary	Report	31 Oct 2010 15:56
	Anybody found Mary Ellen Farrell born 1891 on 1911 census?? Maryb
	Researching: Farrar, Jessop, Ward, Booth, Wragg, Walsh.
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 5,276 Send Message	ChristineinPortugal	Report	31 Oct 2010 15:54
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 5,276 Send Message	Only England and Wales marriages are on the indexes. Scotlands people for Scottish BMD's. Christine
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 79 Send Message	Georgina	Report	31 Oct 2010 15:51
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 79 Send Message	Yes, I can rest easily now as a good Catholic girl! Lol. If McLean was Scottish or Irish and the marriage wasn't in England, would the details be on BMD?
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 5,276 Send Message	ChristineinPortugal	Report	31 Oct 2010 15:43
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 5,276 Send Message	I haven't been able to find a Farrell/McLean marriage. At least they were married by the time your mother was born,lol. Christine.
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 79 Send Message	Georgina	Report	31 Oct 2010 15:36
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 79 Send Message	Oh my, Christine 1925? No wonder I couldn't find a marriage! They had a number of children between Jane and 1930, my mother being one in 1927! Ok, so now I need to send for this marriage cert in 1925, presumably Mary Ellen is called McLean on this and is a widow. Then, I still need to know which name Jane was registered under in 1914. Then I need to check for a Farrell/McLean marriage?
Member Since: February 2007 Posts: 4,614 Send Message	Mary	Report	31 Oct 2010 15:28
	Looks about right Christine,nice one There are 5 births in Salford around that time to long mum nee Farrell Maryb
	Researching: Farrar, Jessop, Ward, Booth, Wragg, Walsh.
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 5,276 Send Message	ChristineinPortugal	Report	31 Oct 2010 15:20
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 5,276 Send Message	Could this be their marriage as you mentioned a family story about McLean. Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1925 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference LONG Daniel P MCLEAN Mary E Salford Register Office or Registrar Attended Salford SAL/156/147 same details from Free BMD Marriages Dec 1925 (>99%) Long Daniel P McLean Salford 8d 682 McLean Mary E Long Salford 8d 682 Christine

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