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Ruth

Ruth Report 31 Oct 2010 20:58

I've found records (cencus, birth etc for all the above so it does seem that Kira's is the right one.

Only strange thing as that I have James as being born in Woolwich but the rest of his siblings are from Norfolk?

Ruth

Ruth Report 31 Oct 2010 01:29

yes. thanks loads for the help!

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 31 Oct 2010 00:46

Well it has hopefully given you a start. Everything will need checking of course.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 31 Oct 2010 00:41

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
about James Adam Bultitude Name: James Adam Bultitude
Gender: Male
Father's name: James Bultitude
Spouse's name: Francis Newstead Boyce
Spouse's Father's Name: Nathaniel Newstead Boyce
Marriage Date: 15 Oct 1859
Marriage Place: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

Ruth

Ruth Report 31 Oct 2010 00:39

flipping heck.
you've both done so much on this!

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Oct 2010 00:14

as I said earlier




gawd this is a family and a half!!!!


some birth certificates are needed to sort out the mothers





sylvia

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 30 Oct 2010 23:55

Name: James Bultitude
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 26 Mar 1808
Baptism/Christening Place: Ashby (near Buckenham), Norfolk, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Samuel Bultitude
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Susan Atkins
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04780-3
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1597076
Reference Number: item 6
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 30 Oct 2010 23:49

maybe
Name: James Bultitude
Estimated birth year: abt 1809
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 72
District: Yarmouth (1837-1924)
County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 30 Oct 2010 23:43

1841 census Address: Blundeston North End, Blundeston
BULTITUDE, Susan F 25 1816 Suffolk
BULTITUDE, George M 6 1835 Suffolk
BULTITUDE, James M 4 1837 Suffolk
COWLES, Elizabeth F 13 1828 Suffolk

1841 BULTITUDE, James
Address: Row, Great Yarmouth, St George
BULTITUDE, James M 30 1811 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Mary F 25 1816 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, James M 8 1833 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Mary F 6 1835 Norfolk

from beta.familysearch.org
record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: James Browne
bride's name: Susan Bultitude
marriage date: 1849
marriage place: St. Nicholas, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
groom's father's name: James Browne
bride's father's name: John Bultitude
indexing project (batch) number: M16315-5
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1526457

1851Address: 142, Row, Nelson Ward, Great Yarmouth
BULTITUDE, James Head Married M 42 1809 Labourer Ashby Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Mary Wife Married F 37 1814 Yarmouth Norfolk
BULTITUDE, James Son Unmarried M 19 1832 Painter Yarmouth Norfolk

1851 Address: 46, High Street Road, Blundeston
BROWN, James Head Married M 39 1812 Tailor (Master) Corton Suffolk
BROWN, Susan Wife Married F 37 1814 Blundeston Suffolk
BULTITUDE, George Son-In-Law Unmarried M 16 1835 Lab (Bricklayer's) Blundeston Suffolk
BULTITUDE, James Son-In-Law Unmarried M 14 1837 Ag Lab Blundeston Suffolk
JEX, Robert Lodger Widower M 55 1796 Carpenter (Journeyman) St Andrew's Suffolk
BROWN, Charles Son M 4 1847 Scholar Blundeston Suffolk

Marriages Dec 1859 (>99%)
Boyce Frances Newstead Yarmouth 4b 5
Boyce Frances Newsted Yarmouth 4b 5
Bultitude James Adam Yarmouth 4b 5

Name: Agnes Ann Bultitude
Year of Registration: 1863
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Yarmouth (1837-1924)
County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b

1861 census - household transcription
Person: BUTTITUDE, James
Address: 109, Gaol Street, St Nicholas, Yarmouth
BUTTITUDE, James Head Married M 50 1811 Coal HeaverAshby
Norfolk BUTTITUDE, May Ann Wife Married F 47 1814 Coal Heavers Wife Yarmouth Norfolk
BUTTITUDE, May Ann Daughter Unmarried F 16 1845 Dressmaker Yarmouth Norfolk

1861 Person: BUTTITUDE, Frances
Address: 18, Row 142, St Nicholas, Yarmouth
BUTTITUDE, James Head Married M 27 1834 Painter Yarmouth Norfolk
BUTTITUDE, Frances Wife Married F 21 1840 Painters Wife Yarmouth Norfolk

1871 Address: Row, Great Yarmouth, Yarmouth
BULTITUDE, James Head M 61 1810 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Mary A Wife F 56 1815 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, James Son M 37 1834 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Frances Daughter-In-Law F 32 1839 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Agnes Daughter F 7 1864 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Ernest Son M 5 1866 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Mary A Daughter F 0 1871 Norfolk

Births Sep 1876 (>99%)
BULTITUDE William Edward Yarmouth 4b 21

1881 Address: Francis Buildings, Victoria Street, Gt Yarmouth
BULTITUDE, James Head Married M 43 1838 House Painter Yarmouth Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Frances Wife Married F 37 1844 Yarmouth Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Agnes Daughter Single F 17 1864 Yarmouth Norfolk
BULTITUDE, James E Son Single M 15 1866 Porter Grocers Woolwich Kent
BULTITUDE, Mary A Daughter Single F 11 1870 Scholar Yarmouth Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Susannah Daughter Single F 2 1879 Yarmouth Norfolk
BULTITUDE, William Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Yarmouth Norfolk

1881Address: 20, Dod St, Limehouse
CHATER, Annie P Daughter Head Single F 12 1869 Scholar Poplar Middlesex
CHATER, Emma E Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar Poplar Middlesex
COMBER, Louisa House Keeper Married F 35 1846 House Keeper Lingfield Surrey

1891 Address: 79, Chrisp Street, Bromley
CHATER, Emma Servant Single F 20 1871 Domestic Servant Limehouse London

1891 Address: 68, Reidhaven Road, Plumstead
ADAMS, Frances Head Widow F 47 1844 Great Yarmouth
ADAMS, James Ernest Son M 25 1866 Labourer Arsenal Charlton Kent
ADAMS, William Edward Son M 15 1876 Shop Assistant Great Yarmouth
ADAMS, Susanna Edith Daughter F 12 1879 Great Yarmouth
DENZER, James William Lodger Widower M 66 1825 Retired R Navy Brighton Sussex

Marriages Mar 1892 (>99%)
Adams James Ernest Woolwich 1d 1205
Chater Emma Emily Woolwich 1d 1205
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Emma Emily Chater Age: 22 Spinster
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
no occupation given
Spouse Name: James Ernest Adams Bachelor
Spouse Age: 26
Occupation:- Decorator
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 21 Feb 1892
Parish: St Nicholas, Plumstead
County: Kent
Borough: Greenwich
Address:- 68 Reidhaven Road
Father Name: Edward Chater Father:- Labourer
Spouse Father Name: James Adams deceased. Painter
Witnesses:- Alfred Walsh and Mary Ann Walsh

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Susanna Edith Adams Age: 18 Spinster
Address:- 36 Kashgar Rd
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Spouse Name: Robert Ernest Carrier Bachelor
Spouse Age: 21
Occupation:- Brazier
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 27 Jun 1896
Parish: St Nicholas, Plumstead
County: Kent
Borough: Greenwich
Father Name: James Adams deceased, Painter
Spouse Father Name: Robert John Carrier Sawyer
Witnesses:- William Edward Adams and Mary Ann Adams

Marriages Dec 1915 (>99%)
Adams Frances M Samson Woolwich 1d 3747
Samson Alfred J Adams Woolwich 1d 3747

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
Name: Alfred John Samson
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Age at enlistment: 26
Residence: 29 Conway Rd, Plumstead
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 13130
Number of Images: 7


Wife:- Frances May Adams
Married:- Tabernacle, Bereford Street, Woolwich, Octoner 31 1915
Address:- 29 Conway (??sp) Rd, Plumstead
Height:- 5' 3"
Attested 9-12-15
Posted 10-12-15
The Queen's Royal Fusiliers, Posted 3-5-16
Fusilier

Discharged:- 21-9-16
No Longer Fit for War Service
Address change to:- 8 Ashwood Road, Shepherds Farm, Eltham, Kent

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 30 Oct 2010 23:43

James and Susannah may be reated but I think James and Mary is your line

Sorry Sylvia

need the marriage next

will put a summary in next post

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 30 Oct 2010 23:38

1861 census - household transcription
Person: BUTTITUDE, James
Address: 109, Gaol Street, St Nicholas, Yarmouth
BUTTITUDE, James Head Married M 50 1811 Coal Heaver
Ashby
Norfolk BUTTITUDE, May Ann Wife Married F 47 1814 Coal Heavers Wife
Yarmouth Norfolk
BUTTITUDE, May Ann Daughter Unmarried F 16 1845 Dressmaker
Yarmouth Norfolk

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 30 Oct 2010 23:36

1861 Person: BUTTITUDE, Frances
Address: 18, Row 142, St Nicholas, Yarmouth
BUTTITUDE, James Head Married M 27 1834 Painter
Yarmouth Norfolk
BUTTITUDE, Frances Wife Married F 21 1840 Painters Wife Yarmouth Norfolk

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 30 Oct 2010 23:29

1851Address: 142, Row, Nelson Ward, Great Yarmouth
BULTITUDE, James Head Married M 42 1809 Labourer Ashby Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Mary Wife Married F 37 1814 Yarmouth Norfolk
BULTITUDE, James Son Unmarried M 19 1832 Painter Yarmouth Norfolk

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 30 Oct 2010 23:26

1841 census - household transcription
Person: BULTITUDE, James
Address: Row, Great Yarmouth, St George
BULTITUDE, James M 30 1811 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Mary F 25 1816 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, James M 8 1833 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Mary F 6 1835 Norfolk

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 30 Oct 2010 23:16

1871 Address: Row, Great Yarmouth, Yarmouth
BULTITUDE, James Head M 61 1810 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Mary A Wife F 56 1815 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, James Son M 37 1834 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Frances Daughter-In-Law F 32 1839 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Agnes Daughter F 7 1864 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Ernest Son M 5 1866 Norfolk
BULTITUDE, Mary A Daughter F 0 1871 Norfolk

Ruth

Ruth Report 30 Oct 2010 22:03

I quite agree with you. We just couldn't work it out but the marriage and the name James Adam Bultitude kind of gives the big clue.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 30 Oct 2010 21:14

Ruth

James and George were the children of Susan Bultitude

Susan Bultitude later married James Brown(e), and the boys became his step-children ..... only in those days they were more commonly called sons-in-law (or daughters-in-law, of course!).


So far as I can see ............... Susan was not married when she had the children .... she does say that John Bultitude was her father's name on that marriage information from beta.familysearch.org


but that may change if we do more digging in the parish registers.



I did have a look for the baptisms of James and George last night, but didn't see anything.



I do quite honestly think your great aunt has got the "facts" wrong.


Bultitude seems to be a name that was around in parts of England from at least 1800 ....... and it does not sound in the slightest German to me!


and I doubt that Adams is necessarily a Jewish name either!


It may well be impossible to determine why the Bultitude name was dropped ..................... it could be due to all kinds of things.


even something as simple as it was too difficult to spell correctly, especially when many people were illiterate!



sylvia

Ruth

Ruth Report 30 Oct 2010 20:38

Ok, just gone to add on my tree and I'm really confused.
So James (abt 1838) brother was George (abt 1835) and James Browne (abt 1812) was his father who married Susan Bultitude. But why does it then say son in law?

or had Susan married previously to a Mr Bultitude who died and she then married James Browne hence why there are older Bultitude children and a younger Browne child.

Charles William Bultitude wouldn't be old enough to be the father and Susan's father was Bultitude?

Okay now I an very confused
:-D

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 30 Oct 2010 16:39

Well done Sylvia.
I started looking last night but fell asleep.

Ruth

Ruth Report 30 Oct 2010 09:25

So it looks like the name never was double barrelled one and that they used James middle name Adam to drop the bultitude part then. That is fascinating. I wonder why though, could this have been a census error?

It looks like the change happened between 1881 and 1891.