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mgnv

mgnv Report 16 Nov 2010 22:39

Re service in France - it's true his record wouldn't say where in France he served, but it would say what unit he was with, and the attestation search help link you're familiar with also has a link to unit War Diaries - most are online, and these say where his unit is on a day by day basis.

There's an online free book that might be of interest in conjunction with the WDs:

Author: Nicholson, G.W.L
Official History of the Canadian Army in the First World War: Candian Expeditionary Force, 1914-1919

http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dhh-dhp/his/oh-ho/detail-eng.asp?BfBookLang=1&BfId=22

You might pass this info along to the family too.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 16 Nov 2010 23:34

Well this has been quite a feat and pretty successful team effort, hasn't it?!

The remaining question is whether he had children and how to find them?

Sandra

Sandra Report 17 Nov 2010 15:15

I was told he had no children, am sure he would have said if he had. He always told the sister he wrote to in England, when anything happens to me you will be provided for. He would not have said that if he had children, unfortunately no money ever came to them. So maybe there was no money or he left it to Juliette.

We will be looking into his serivce in France found a direct website to it for Engineers and Railway man.

Had a few replies to my request for Charlotte Thoburn, the ones in England either did not know she had gone abroad or the one that did was not aware of when she went. Told how to get onto this site and read all that you have found.

The ones in Canada already have never heard of Charlotte in their tree, thedir relatives had been in the country for much longer. So why the mother came and who she lived with may be possible to find. got to go our talk later

Sandra

Sandra Report 22 Nov 2010 18:58

Spoke to brother in law this weekend, his uncle did have scars on the side of his face so now know for certain that we have researched the correct soldier.

Sandra

Sandra

Sandra Report 8 Dec 2010 08:32

Still plodding my way through the ships manifest of people going to Canada not found him yet but plenty to go at. Wish I was on Find my past that could make it easier for me. Found yesterday many home children some as young as 7 upset me so shut it down. What on earth, apart from money, did those in charge of orphanages think they were doing with such young ones.

Trying to print out some of what you have found but having difficulties but will keep on trying. I need to print it out to get my head around things and type them up.

Talk again soon, Sandra

Sandra

Sandra Report 22 Dec 2010 13:15

Merry Christmas and a very happy New Year to all who have helped me on this web site. xxxx

Sandra

Sandra Report 8 Jan 2011 12:15

Hi anyone still out there but had some brilliant paperwork today from Canada. Only asked in Quebec web site if they could tell me where George was buried. They have not answered that but sent me some info I did not have. I thought they were going to send me forms to fill in.

First of all Janey there is the second marriage to Juliette and one of the witnesses was John George Webb, you said all along that he may have had a child, Charlotte's relative was a John. The only thing is that I have also received the details of the divorce and it appears that the innocent party was George, Charlotte is cited as having an affair which was proved. Hope the child is George's funny he never talked about a child, or it may be that he went over with some Webbs and this is their relative.

Juliette's name was Letourneau father was I think Xavier as farmer deceased, mother Rosalie also deceased. The marriage was one year after the divorce 7th August 1942. He states his name is George Douglas Webb, father same name deceased, but cannot find either of these on BMD. He says is a chauffeur mechanic. Mother Emily deceased

He died 22nd February 1963. There are various addresses on the paperwork which I will ask mgnv if he can find any of them for me when I get my head around this brilliant paperwork to see if he can find me a census.

Going to have to write a long thank you letter to the lady that has sent me the info, may even try my poor French on her, hope she does not laugh too much by it.

All the best of greetings, Sandra

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 Jan 2011 12:33

The 1911 census has this Xavier Letourneau with wife Rosalie in Montmagny, Quebec but no daughter Juliette:

19 17 Letourneau Xavier M Head M Mar 1861 50
20 17 Letourneau Rosalie F Wife M Jul 1868 42
21 17 Letourneau Bernadette F Daughter S Mar 1893 18
22 17 Letourneau Francois M Son S Sep 1894 16
23 17 Letourneau Clara F Daughter S Dec 1896 14
24 17 Letourneau Alice F Daughter S Oct 1898 12
25 17 Letourneau Ida F Daughter S Jul 1901 9
26 17 Letourneau Omer M Son S Dec 1903 7
27 17 Letourneau Amédée M Son S Jul 1907 4

Sandra

Sandra Report 8 Jan 2011 18:31

Hi Margaret, she married George on August 5th 1942 and was 31 so she must have been born after the census. Thanks for the census, this gives me a lot of names to look for on family trees.

Sandra

Sandra Report 21 Jan 2011 18:50

Had another reply from Canada today, George and Charlotte had a least 2 children, Albert Edward born 1917, and Charlotte born 1918. So there may be family still in Canada, what a surprise for the English family.

Sandra

mgnv

mgnv Report 22 Jan 2011 00:01

Using links at http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-911.009-e.html


1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Quebec / Montmagny / 22 St. Paul / page 3

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002072755.pdf


1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: QU MONTMAGNY (#172)
Subdistrict: Montminy, Rolette & Panet C-2 Page 8
7 77 Letourneau Xavier M Head M Mar 22 1861 41
8 77 Letourneau Rosalie F Wife M Jul 1 1868 32
9 77 Letourneau Rosa F Daughter S Sep 11 1887 13
10 77 Letourneau Maria F Daughter S Jul 24 1889 11
11 77 Letourneau Anna F Daughter S Oct 23 1891 9
12 77 Letourneau Bernadette F Daughter S Mar 3 1893 8
13 77 Letourneau François M Son S Sep 27 1894 6
14 77 Letourneau Clara F Daughter S Dec 17 1896 4
15 77 Letourneau Alice F Daughter S Oct 16 1898 2
16 77 Letourneau Marie F Daughter S Dec 26 1882 18

S1 - http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z004/z000152519.pdf
S2 - http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z004/z000152511.pdf
[St Paul lot 13 r? 4]

1891 - http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148206-00675.pdf

Montmagny is 70km downstream from Quebec City, on the S Shore.
In 1891/1901/11, Xavier is a cultivateur (i.e., farmer) - I'm not familiar with Quebec rural addresses - sorry.

Sandra

Sandra Report 22 Jan 2011 19:36

Dear mgnv, good to hear from you again. Do you remember you found me out about Charlotte's family history in Sunderland, was ploughing through all the paperwork today.

Charlotte juniors second name was Kirby, from your findings I was able to know we had the correct one because her grandmother's maiden name was Kirby.

I think I can find Xavier a few census back, he was always a Cultivator, even found a baby in another section with this name must be one of those family names. I could not write and ask because it was someone's obitiary and he was a great grandson, did not seem tactful.


Must close now have the married name and death of Charlotte junior will update you tomorrow, have a good weekend all the best from Sandra.

Sandra

Sandra Report 23 Jan 2011 11:31

We think Charlotte possibly married someone called Asselin it is in the Drouin Collection but no initials can be seen. She died in Duncan BC in 1990. We think there is some family there but only one person at that district will have to put pen to paper, finding a tactful way of asking if they are related

No sign yet of the brother Albert Edward may make that my search for the day.

Sandra

Sandra

Sandra Report 16 Feb 2011 18:39

Have written to Canada to the only person I can find called Asselin in Duncan, address must be wrong but put another address on the back, had the letter returned person not at this address.

Sent for a birth certificate for a Douglas Webb as this was what George said was his middle name. His birth was registered as Douglas, correct date, mother Emily Adelaide Webb, only 2 of these and have finally found the true mother and her family. All the names in this family fit in and now am satisfied and know the family history for a few generations.

Have not found him on a ship to Canada.

Thanks for all your help, been a long journey but great success, would love to find family in Canada maybe in the future I will find them.

Thank you for all your expertise and patience.

regards Sandra

mgnv

mgnv Report 16 Feb 2011 21:56

Don't find any suitable Asselins at:
http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-1A71CC2/gbsearch/Births,Marriages,Deaths

I (person) looked Asselin up at - http://www.mytelus.com/phonebook/display.do

I can see one in Duncan, but there's also one in Lake Cowichan, just 20km inland.