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Born into Sangers Circus

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Brian

Brian Report 29 Jul 2015 22:02

Emma/ Emily Baldwin/birch is my father in laws grandmother!

Maureen

Maureen Report 16 Jul 2011 22:27

Hi Sue,
I don't know if Thomas was married before his marriage to Emily & no I hadn't thought of the death certificate-thanks for that

Maureen

Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 16 Jul 2011 10:53

Maureen,


Do you know if Thomas was married before he married Emily?

Edit,,,,Have you got Emily/Emma's death cert to see who was the informant.???


Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Mar 1911 (>99%)
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>>>>>>>>>Birch Emily 48 Nottingham 7b 218
Birch Evelyn G 0 Nottingham 7b 205
Birch George 2 Doncaster 9c 565
Birch John 23 Melton M. 7a 186
Birch Mary J 35 Nottingham 7b 229


Maureen

Maureen Report 16 Jul 2011 08:30

Many thanks Sue it certainly is interesting reading. My apologies for not getting back sooner-had a busy day yesterday!

Maureen

Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 15 Jul 2011 11:13

Just found this and it says George Sanger died in November 1911 in the winter quarters then I don't think it's likely that Thomas would have been working for Sangers Circus..

Read this very interesting..

http://www.berksfhs.org.uk/journal/Sep2000/Sep2000OWhatACircus.htm


So I would either look for another marriage or death for Thomas.

Maureen

Maureen Report 15 Jul 2011 10:46

Thanks for that Lindsey-it makes interesting reading

Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 15 Jul 2011 10:34

There is a record of the battle of Sangers circus with the Salvation army ?

sounds a possible connection for Thomas

http://www.brf.org.uk/4346

Researching:
For better results please give all the details ,name, date place as you can {pictures by me }

Maureen

Maureen Report 15 Jul 2011 10:15

Many thanks Pam

Alemap

Alemap Report 15 Jul 2011 10:13

Hi Maureen,
Unfortunately no. All have place of birth.
The first two are Salvation Army hostels, so they could have written the information given at registration. Will keep looking.

Maureen

Maureen Report 15 Jul 2011 10:08

Yes Pam-but not on that side of the family !!!!!!!!!

Maureen

Maureen Report 15 Jul 2011 10:06

Hi Pam,
Do any of these you have sent me state that he doesn't know where he was born? As he was born into a circus family he didn't know-just that he was baptised in Stourbridge
Maureen

Alemap

Alemap Report 15 Jul 2011 10:04

Any one in the family musical?
There is a 54 year old Chorister at Mount St Bernards Abbey, Coalville.

Maureen

Maureen Report 15 Jul 2011 10:02

Thanks Pam-yet another possibility!!

Alemap

Alemap Report 15 Jul 2011 09:58

Another one. Not finding anymore widowers.

BIRCH, Thomas Head Single M 53 1858 Farm Labourer Worcestershire Stourport

RG number: RG14 Piece: 17744 Reference: RG14PN17744 RG78PN1086 RD381 SD1 ED6 SN11
Registration District: Droitwich Sub District: Ombersley Enumeration District: 6 Parish: Hartlebury
Address: Severn Side Stourport County: Worcestershire

Maureen

Maureen Report 15 Jul 2011 09:57

Hi Sue,
No, I hadn't looked for another marriage for Thomas-it is a thought though!
Thank you

Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 15 Jul 2011 09:54

Have you looked for another marriage for Thomas..???

There is this one in Nottingham,,,,

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1915 (>99%)
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Birch Thomas Ellis Nottingham 7b 1075
Ellis Winifred Birch Nottingham 7b 1075
Nichols Maria J Wade Nottingham 7b 1075
Wade Thomas W Nichols Nottingham 7b 1075


It is a possiblity that he married again and this is in 1915...

Maureen

Maureen Report 15 Jul 2011 09:45

Thanks again Pam,
Another possibility!

Alemap

Alemap Report 15 Jul 2011 09:42

Hi Maureen,
Here's another one another Salvation Army Hostel. This one is a widower.
Address: Registered Lodging House The Model, MODEL REGISTERED LODGING HOUSE, 154-158 SUNBRIDGE ROAD

BIRCH, Thomas Inmate Widower M 50 1861 Slate Quarryman Yorkshire Thornton

RG number: RG14 Piece: 26763 Reference: RG14PN26763 RD498 SD2 ED49 SN9999
Registration District: Bradford Sub District: Bradford Central Enumeration District: 49 Parish: Bradford
Address: 154 -158 Sunbridge Road Bradford County: Yorkshire (West riding)

Maureen

Maureen Report 15 Jul 2011 09:37

Thanks Pam-
It is a possibility that it could be him-if it is, I wonder why he claimed to be single instead of a widower!

Alemap

Alemap Report 15 Jul 2011 09:31

Possible for Thomas in 1911.
I known it says "Baker", but I could not find any "Skinner's".
1911
At the Salvation Army shelter
BIRCH, Thomas Lodger Single M 50 1861 Baker Birmingham

RG number: RG14 Piece: 1792 Reference: RG14PN1792 RD23 SD3 ED20 SN1
Registration District: Southwark Sub District: St George the Martyr West Enumeration District: 20
Parish: Southwark St George the Martyr
Address: Blackfriars Road S E County: London

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