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Possible for Bridget - much less common:

Births Mar 1872 (>99%)
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BAILEY Bridget Charlotte J St. Geo. East 1c 463

Almost certainly the marriage for Charles snr & Nora??

Marriages Sep 1864 (>99%)
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Bailey Charles St George S 1d 215
Greenwood John St George S 1d 215
Ryan Mary St George S 1d 215
Tierney Nora St George S 1d 215

and possible birth for James, eldest child on 1881 census:

Births Sep 1865 (>99%)
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Bailey James Stockport 8a 37
Bailey James Wolverhampton 6b 537
Bailey James Chorlton 8c 495
Bailey James Warrington 8c 113
Bailey James Manchester 8d 320
Bailey James Axbridge 5c 612
Bailey James Bolton 8c 293
Bailey James Keynsham 5c 721
Bailey James Stoke T. 6b 219
>>> Bailey James Charles St. Geo. S. 1d 134
Bailey James William Oldham 8d 502
Bailey James William Victor Stoke T. 6b 228

As you can imagine there are lots of James Baileys but using the common area found this one - by no means conclusive

I believe I now have the name of charles Bailey's wife ( DOB: 1842 )was nona/nora/nola. Dont know her maiden name. I can track her as born in Newcastle Limerick, Ireland with the census showing Charles bailey (snr) 1841. Nora I have found census 1881 and 1891 but cant find any earlier or later census. No marriage or death certificate for nora. .No marriage for charles (snr) although I believe his death certificate to be
Charles Bailey
Birth Date:abt 1841
Date of Registration:
Jan-Feb-Mar 1933
Age at Death:92
Registration district:
Camberwell
Inferred County:London
Volume: 1d
Page:1055

1881 England Census
about Nona BaileyAge:36
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1845
Relation:Wife
Spouse's Name:Charles Bailey
Where born:Ireland
Civil parish:
Southwark Christchurch
County/Island:London
Country:England
street Address:8 Bear Court
Condition as to marriage:
married
reggistration district:St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district:
Christchurch Southwark
ED, institution, or vessel:
6a piiece:516
Folio:80
Page Number:17
Household Members:
Name and Age
Charles Bailey age37
Nona Bailey 36
James Bailey 15
Bridget Bailey 9
Sarah Bailey 5
Charles Bailey 2

This is showing their children.

Anyone have any ideas about nora's death?


Thanks ruth

Can anyone help me here I am looking for earlier census to determine more info of charles 1880 and his father approx 1860's. I have nothing unique to consider only that they lived in the Peckham, Camberwell area for many years. I do not know the name of charles senior's wife's maiden name or christian name.
I need to find Charles 1880 birth certificate but cannot locate charles 1880 birth details as I have no other information to consider.
They appear to have used just charles bailey with no middle name (both of them).
Charles 1880 and Ellen Taylor married in 1900 so the 1901 census should show just the two of them as a couple if they lived in their own home but I am hoping that they would be living with the family, this would then include his father Charles and charles 1880 together with his siblings.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
thanks ruth

Possible death registration for Charles?

Name: Charles A Bailey
Death Registration Month/Year: 1932 (Jun Qtr)
Age at death (estimated): 55
Registration district: Camberwell
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 757

Yes looking at the origanal it is Frank J Z so it is the correct family

jax

Hi Jax,
This 1911 census has several names that our within their immediate family but my father in law frank , which is the onlyone I know about his name is Frank James Zaccheus bailey(confirmed by his birth certificate) and the Frank above has the initials Frank GT? What do you think?

ruth

This is the full census

1911 census - household transcription
Person: BAILEY, Charles
Address: 76 Westmoreland Road S E

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BAILEY, Charles Head Married
10 years M 31 1880 Carman Brick Southwark VIEW
BAILEY, Ellen Wife Married F 29 1882 Camberwell VIEW
BAILEY, Ada N E Daughter Single F 9 1902 Camberwell VIEW
BAILEY, Charles G E Son Single M 8 1903 Camberwell VIEW
BAILEY, Frank G T Son Single M 2 1909 Camberwell VIEW

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HI jax not sure how relevant this infor is as it does not seem familiar to me. When my father in law was born the profession charles was under taken was labourer but when frank and annie got married he was a plumber. This might help.

Hi Julie,

Yes this is the marriage that I picked up on ancestry.com which sound likely.

thanks ruth

Looking for any Baileys, living with Ada Bailey brings up this family, which looks like yours:

BAILEY, Charles 1880 31 M Southwark London VIEW VIEW
BAILEY, Charles G E 1903 8 M Southwark London VIEW VIEW
BAILEY, Ellen 1882 29 F Southwark London VIEW VIEW
BAILEY, Frank G T 1909 2 M Southwark London VIEW VIEW

I dont have access to view the full record so maybe someone else might be able to provide more details.

Vanessa

Hi I think these dob seem around the time I am searching so it is possible that they could be our family. I have given one of your colleagues the names and estimated dob. So you can see that information.

thanks ruth

Hi Jax,
My father in law was born in peckham, camberwell and the address on the birth certificate is 64 leo street, peckham camberwell. He was born in 1908.

thanks ruth

My husband informs me that charles and ellen lived in london all their lives and that is where they were married and so were their children in the peckham area. He mentioned burdon bush road and 64 leo street pops up on my father in laws birth certificate. The children however, moved into the surrey area Woking, knaphill and still live there. Hope this helps.

Julie ellens maiden name was Taylor.

thanks

ruth

Charles Bailey( father) Ellen(Nell) Bailey (mother).
the family have no other info that I can link into. Their children are as follows and their approximate dob:
Ada Bailey 1905
Charles Bailey 1906
Frank J Z Bailey 1908 - this one is correct as it is my father in law who is now deceased. At the time of his birth the address was 64 leo street, peckham.
Eileen Bailey 1911
George H.A. Bailey 1913,Bridget Bailey 1916
Robert J. Bailey 1919,Albert R.P. Bailey 1921

Very true Julie but you cannot see a whole tree like ancestry

jax

Anne-marie

It isn't rocket science to work out who has who in their tree....But hey ho..you carry on

You cannot see peoples trees unless they give permission.

jax

There is also a tree on ancestry but parents not mentioned

jax