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15 Dec 2013 08:13 |
Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about Norman Harry Bradford
Further info leading on from JoonieCloonie' info......
Name:Norman Harry Bradford & Sylvia May Bradford......both 'Ministers'
Gender:Male
Electoral Year:1980
State:Victoria
District:Chrisholm
Subdistrict:Box Hill <<<642 Elgar Road
There are other 'Bradford's' listed at the same address, which I presume are the children. I'll not post their names here as they may well be living
I will send them to you by PM
This looks to be his birth
England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
Name:Norman H Bradford
Mother's Maiden Surname:Walker
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1925
Registration District:Birmingham N
Inferred County:Warwickshire
Volume Number:6d
Page Number:672
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15 Dec 2013 08:19 |
UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name:Mr N H Bradford
Gender:Male
Age:24
Birth Date:abt 1926
Departure Date:17 Mar 1950
Port of Departure:Liverpool, England
Destination Port:Sydney, Australia
Ship Name:Cheshire
Shipping Line:Orient Line
Address in the UK: 23 Shipley Grove, Weoley Castle, Birmingham
Is this the same passage that the Edwards family travelled?
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15 Dec 2013 08:57 |
I'm pretty sure that this is the marriage of Norman Harry' parents
Birmingham, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937
Name:Harry Bradford <<Woodworking machinist
Gender:Male
Birth Year:abt 1890
Marriage Date:21 Apr 1912
Marriage Age:22
Marriage Place:Hockley, All Saints, Warwickshire, England
Spouse:Janet Walker <<Chainmaker
Spouse Gender:Female
Spouse Marriage Age 21
Father:Samuel Bradford <<Woodworking machinist
Spouse's Father:Edward Walker <<Tool maker
Reference Number:DRO 39
Archive Roll:535
A link to OZ
UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name:Harry Bradford (Machinist) & Janet Bradford & infant Winifred
Gender:Male
Age:23
Birth Date:abt 1890
Departure Date:20 Mar 1913
Port of Departure:Liverpool, England
Destination Port:Adelaide, Australia
Ship Name:Irishman
Search Ship Database:Search the 'Irishman' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line:White Star Line
Official Number:110511
Master:Thos Howell
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15 Dec 2013 14:47 |
I think the thing is at this point the historical information is not in question, we know who these people all are now, all are deceased except maybe Sylvia Bailey who married Norman Harry Bradford, and both Sylvia and Dorothy have children and grandchildren in Australia.
and I think it is already in the thread that Norman was the next passenger on the list to Australia after the Baileys and he married Sylvia.
In Marian's thread on the living people board I pointed out that the person who has the very large Ancestry-Mundia tree showing Sylvia and Dorothy also has a tree on this site.
The tree shows the descendants of the Bailey brothers Joseph (Sylvia and Dorothy) and William (Gordon and Joy in Marian's other thread) ... and Marian is the daughter of their sister Lydia.
with trees that large you can't tell how the person is related or whether they even know the living people in the tree
but it is worth a try.
Marian has read my messages, which included what I think is probably contact information for a granddaughter of Sylvia.
Now I did think, since they were Salvationists, maybe the Salvation Army in South Australia or Victoria would be an idea, to ask for help getting in touch with the children of Dorothy and Sylvia ?
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15 Dec 2013 17:43 |
Joonie,, I agree BUT
The children of the couple I posted may and indeed look to be available online, in various forms
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15 Dec 2013 18:07 |
The Norman Bradford and Sylvia Bailey couple Gins?
In fact someone posted a list of hundreds of names in a message at Ancestry showing all their children and grandchildren, with birthdates and spouses, and those of Sylvia's sister Dorothy.
The discussion in question was actually about a branch of the Farmborough family in the United States !
I thought that was the most appalling violation of privacy so I didn't link to it here
... but it did provide all those names so I could search further in Australia :-)
and unfortunately the only seemingly sure thing it led to was contact information for one grandchild ...
Maybe if you can see other possible contact information you would PM it to Marian?
I went bug-eyed over it last night ... and in fact whitepages Australia is now telling me it has detected unusual activity from my IP address and now I have to do a captcha and wait 5 minutes every time I do a search ...
:-D
I do really suggest though that Marian contact the person right here at genes reunited who has the Australian Bradford and Williamson families in their tree, unless it is someone she already knows, but in that case it means she already knows what we have been finding out ...
Maybe she does but just needs contact information and hopefully what I found will do that ... or you can suggest something more Gins ?
Marian ? :-)
trying not to be confusing but it can be difficult ...
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15 Dec 2013 18:45 |
Yes...I sent the info by PM, to Marian
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15 Dec 2013 20:01 |
THANKS TO YOU ALL FOR YOUR HELP AND FORBEARANCE I CAN NOW PUT MORE ON MY TREE BEFORE I LOSE NOTES ETC THIS WEEK IS MY 80TH BIRTHDAY AND MY LOVELY FAMILY HAVE PLANNED A GRAND REUNION AND CELEBRATION PARTY..MY HUSBAND IS TRYING SO HARD TO CONCEAL ALL THE SURPRISES THAT ARE IN STORE FOR ME BUT HE IS 84 IT WILL BE ESPECIALLY GOOD TO SEE OUR GREAT GRAND DAUGHTER WHO WAS BORN THIS YEAR WEIGHING ONLY 3 LBS SHE IS THRIVING WELL THOUGH LOVE TO ALL AND CHRISTMAS GREETINGS TO ALL WHO HAVE HELPED ME ESPECIALLY JUST NOW AS I STRUGGLE TO KEEP GOING LOVE AND BLESSINGS TO ALL MARIAN HUNT MEE CAMSEY <3 :-) :-) <3
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15 Dec 2013 20:11 |
Have a fab time
<3
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15 Dec 2013 21:49 |
Well Marian, if this is just for your tree, that link I sent you, to the discussion at Ancestry, should keep you going into your next decade!!
If you are hoping to contact some of your cousins or their kids, I hope that works out for you.
Someone at that grand reunion will be a technical whiz who can help you with it all.
And they will all appreciate your hard work on their family history even if they are too young to think so now. Be sure to tell them some stories!
Have a wonderful time!
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