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On 1891 census when Sarah Ann Arnold is housekeeper it says Jacob Du bray is married,maybe that is why he and Sarah didn't marry till later on.

It looks as though Minnie is daughter of Sarah and Jacob and Rose and Matilda to his previuos wife.

Strange no definate births showing up though.

Matilda born Ramsgate @ 1866 according to 1911 census which is usually accurate.
Rose @ 1870.Gravesend
Minnie born Dartford1866.

Maryb

Still can not find birth certs for Minnie.Matilda and Rose.Du Bray.Surely if Sarah Arnold was the mother of Minnie there would be a record somewhere.Anyone got the answer to these missing birth certs.Or do I take it that they were all Illegit and just took The Du Bray name after their father..I know who they all married and their familes,so please do not spend your time for this.Thanks Pam

Thanks for these...still no births registered for minnie or sisters.were they born in England I wonder....Is there a passenger list somewhere ,that they would be on ?How else can I trace their mother....

Marriages Dec 1891

Du Bray Matilda Guardes Dartford 2a 827
Long Frederick Dartford 2a 827
Martin Minnie Dunlop Dartford 2a 827
Reynolds James Dartford 2a 827
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Marriages Dec 1895

Baxter Walter Dartford 2a 813
Bray Rose Du Dartford 2a 813
Du Bray Rose Dartford 2a 813
Durling Clara Eliza Dartford 2a 813
Turner Joseph Joshua Dartford 2a 813
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Marriages Mar 1905

Brooker Benjamin Charles Dover 2a 1449
Du Bray Minnie Guardes Dover 2a 1449
HOWARD Joseph Frank Dover 2a 1449
HUDSON Ada Agnes Dover 2a 1449

Thanks all for info and help much appreciated.' I think maybe minnie and sisters were born abroad as no births registered were found Pam

Walter and 'Rose' Baxter in 1911

BAXTER, Walter Head Married M 41 1870 General Labour Kent Dartford
BAXTER, Rose Wife Married 15 years F 40 1871 Kent Gravesend
BAXTER, Walter Son School M 12 1899 School Kent Dartford
BAXTER, Horace Son School M 10 1901 School Kent Dartford
BAXTER, William Son M 7 1904 School Kent Dartford
BAXTER, Leslie Son M 2 1909 Kent Dartford
BAXTER, Doris Daughter F 4 1907 Kent Dartford

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Registration District:
Dartford Sub District:
Dartford Enumeration District:
10 Parish:
Dartford

Address:
112 Howard Road Dartford County:
Kent

Marriage OND 1895 :
Baxter Walter Dartford 2a 813
Bray Rose Du Dartford 2a 813
Du Bray Rose Dartford 2a 813

well Minnie born 1886 should certainly have be registered but none showing . it points to her nor being born in UK
When she is on the census with her dad he says he is married but no wife listed, No deaths listed either for a Du Bray

Yes Shirley it comes to us all in the end we change our age.That's life.If you want a break do so by all means.

1901 census
matildas age has changed!
REYNOLDS, James Head Married M 40 1871 Labourer At Paper Mill Dartford Kent VIEW
REYNOLDS, Matilda Wife Married
20 years F 45 1866 Ramsgate VIEW
REYNOLDS, Daisy Daughter Single F 19 1892 Paper Sorter Dartford VIEW
REYNOLDS, Violet Daughter Single F 17 1894 Packer At Gas Mantle Works Dartford VIEW
REYNOLDS, Harrold Son Single M 13 1898 School Dartford VIEW
REYNOLDS, William Son M 9 1902 School Dartford VIEW
REYNOLDS, Leonard Son M 6 1905 School Dartford VIEW
REYNOLDS, Cyril Son M 3 1908 Dartford VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3773 Reference:
RG14PN3773 RG78PN143 RD43 SD3 ED11 SN103

Registration District:
Dartford Sub District:
Dartford Enumeration District:
11 Parish:
Dartford

Address:
65 St Albans Road Dartford County:
Kent

seems Matilda married James Reynolds
1901 census
Name: Matilda Reynolds
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: James Reynolds
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Wilmington
Ecclesiastical parish: Wilmington St Michael
Town: Wilmington
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:2 Powder Mill lane

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Dartford
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 145
Household Members: Name Age
James Reynolds 30 b Dartford
Matilda Reynolds 31 b london
Daisy Reynolds 9 b dartford
Violet Reynolds 6 bDartford
Harold Reynolds 2 b wilmington


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 707; Folio: 34; Page: 22.

I wonder when Guardo DuBray came to England .Did Minnie come with him.is there a passenger list somewhere.Thanks.

H'm still need minnie's birth register so can I get her birth certficate to find out who her mother was.you are doing well.Can not the french births be found anywhere,,Thanks Pam

Matilda married in 1891 to either
Frederick Long orJames Reynolds

Grace e Baxter is the daughter of Rose or Violet DuBray who married Walter Baxter

sarah arnold didnt marry til 1903
Name: Sarah Ann Arnold
Year of Registration: 1903
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Dover
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 2230
Jacob Garlist Dubray

well done.so that info on Matilda is that when she was born 1891 then..please..

1911 census ' she says she was born in Dartford
BROOKER, Benjamin Head Married M 25 1886 Colliery Bankhand Sussex Brighton VIEW
BROOKER, Minnie Wife Married F 25 1886 Kent Dartford VIEW
BROOKER, Minnie Daughter F 5 1906 School Kent River VIEW
BROOKER, Violet Daughter F 4 1907 Wilts Tidworth VIEW
BROOKER, Benjamin Son M 1 1910 Wilts Tidworth VIEW
BROOKER, Roland Son M 1 1910 Wilts Tidworth VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
4604 Reference:
RG14PN4604 RG78PN193 RD65 SD2 ED14 SN149

Registration District:
Dover Sub District:
Dover Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
Dover

Address:
1 Dubling Cottage County:
Kent

Name: Freda M Brooker
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Du Bray
District: Dover
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 2006

Name: Alfred R Brooker
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: du Bray
District: Dover
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 2067

Name: Grace E Baxter
Year of Registration: 1913
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's Maiden Name: Du Bray
District: Dartford
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 1334