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11 Feb 2011 20:09 |
Hello.i am related to your james ashton by virtue of the fact that alfred george ashton(1892) younger brother to james was the 2nd husband of my maternal grandmothers sister.Richard ashton(1875) older brother to james was killed in the hamstead colliery mine disaster in 1908.You are welcome to view my family tree if you ask.You may not live in this area and know where hamstead is but there is a monument to the men who died in the disaster & i have a photo of the plaque showing the names of the men who where killed & i could send you a copy.A.Poulton.
If you wish to contact me my no is 01215052067. you can withold your no.
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Katie
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8 Oct 2010 08:08 |
Glad it's been useful. Some of the info ( births, marriages & deaths ) came from http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl which is free. The census info came from Findmypast which I have a subscription to so it didn't cost me any extra. Let me know if you need any other help. Katie
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Abi
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7 Oct 2010 22:01 |
Thankyou so much for finding all this, definately a lot to take in.
I googled the Hamstead mining disaster and i actually found a photograph of Richard Ashton and his brother in law Thomas Hollyoak who also died in the accident. It was Thomas's widow and children who Harriet (Richards widow) was living with in 1911, both living off compensation. It really is fascinating what you can find with a bit of help.
Still need to try and get my head around Job and John, theres a few things confusing me. I'll have another look through what we've got. Might be back for more help soon.
Thanks again, Abi
P.S Can i ask where you find the information and does it cost you?
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Katie
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7 Oct 2010 21:01 |
John seems to have died in 1941 still in West Brom
Name: John Ashton Death Registration Month/Year: 1941 Age at death (estimated): 70 Registration district: West Bromwich Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 1623
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Katie
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7 Oct 2010 20:57 |
There is a lot to take in in one go! Just a bit more - though John and Jane state they have been married 45 years in 1911 they didn't actually marry until the end of 1871. Here is Jane and the early children in 1871 living in West Brom
Hannah Nightingale 40 Jane Nightingale 23 Job Nightingale 18 Richard Nightingale 13 Job Nightingale 3 John Nightingale 11 Months
and here is John
ASHTON, Hannah Head F 66 1805 Staffordshire ASHTON, John Son M 24 1847 Staffordshire PUGH, Susannah Daughter F 48 1823 Worcestershire PUGH, Lavinia Daughter F 18 1853 Staffordshire ASHTON, Joseph Lodger M 64 1807 Staffordshire
RG number: RG10 Piece: 2985 Folio: 71 Page: 2 Registration District: West Bromwich Sub District: West Bromwich, North-East Enumeration District: 15 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: West Bromwich Municipal Borough: Address: All Saints Street, West Bromwich County: Staffordshire
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Katie
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7 Oct 2010 20:34 |
Here is Job in 1911, the couple had no natural children
ASTON, Job Head Married M 42 1869 Coal Hewer West Bromwich Staff ASTON, Louisa Wife Married 15 years F 43 1868 Bilston Staff ASTON, Harry Adopted Son M 8 1903 Cannock Staff
RG number:RG14 Piece:16945 Reference:RG14PN16945 RG78PN1047 RD368 SD2 ED12 SN145 Registration District:Cannock Sub District:Cannock Enumeration District:12 Parish:Cannock
Address:Burgoyne St High Town Hednesford County: Staffordshire
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Abi
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7 Oct 2010 16:18 |
Katie you have been so helpful, i wont have chance to look through all this until a bit later, just wanted to say a quick thankyou so that you dont think your efforts have gone unappreciated. Will take a good look at this later and reply again. Thanks, Abi :o)
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Katie
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7 Oct 2010 15:23 |
John still remains a bit of a mystery!
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Katie
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7 Oct 2010 15:15 |
In 1901 Clara,
ASHTON, Clara Servant Single F 21 1880 Domestic Servant West Bromwich Staffordshire
RG number: RG13 Piece: 2723 Folio: 139 Page: 26 Registration District: West Bromwich Sub District: West Bromwich North-East Enumeration District: 14 Ecclesiastical Parish: All Saints Civil Parish: West Bromwich Municipal Borough: Address: Infections Hospital, Cemetery Lane, West Bromwich County: Staffordshire
She married the following year Marriages Mar 1902 ASHTON Clara W. Bromwich 6b 1117 Dale John W Bromwich 6b 1117
and in 1911, all 3 children born were still alive
DALE, John Head Married M 36 1875 Coal Miner Loader Below Ground West Bromwich Staffs DALE, Clara Wife Married 9 years F 30 1881 West Bromwich Staffs DALE, Florence Daughter F 8 1903 School West Bromwich Staffs DALE, John Son M 6 1905 School West Bromwich Staffs DALE, Alfred Son M 3 1908 School RG14 Piece:17318 Reference:RG14PN17318 RG78PN1062 RD371 SD4 ED13 SN63
Registration District:West Bromwich Sub District:West Bromwich North East Enumeration District:13 Parish:West Bromwich Address: All Saints St West Bromwich County: Staffordshire
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Katie
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7 Oct 2010 15:06 |
Sadly it seems daughter Alice died aged 2
Deaths Dec 1892 Ashton Alice 2 W. Bromwich 6b 485
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Katie
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7 Oct 2010 14:59 |
This looks like John in 1891, he had married Alice Barnes in 1889 in West Brom
ASHTON, John Head Married M 20 1871 Coal Miner West Bromwich Staffordshire ASHTON, Alice Wife Married F 20 1871 West Bromwich Staffordshire ASHTON, Alice Daughter F 1 1890 West Bromwich Staffordshire RG number: RG12 Piece: 2273 Folio: 48 Page: 8 Registration District: West Bromwich Sub District: West Bromwich North East Enumeration District: 16 Ecclesiastical Parish: All Saints Civil Parish: West Bromwich Municipal Borough: West Bromwich Address: Sink Hole, Bird End, West Bromwich County: Staffordshire
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Katie
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7 Oct 2010 14:19 |
Richard did die in a mining accident at Hamstead Colliery, Great Barr, there is an account of it here http://www.cmhrc.co.uk/cms/document/1908_10.pdf
His wife had only had one child by 1911 so the grandchildren are not his.
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Katie
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7 Oct 2010 14:14 |
Sadly Richard died in 1908
Deaths Mar 1908 Ashton Richard 33 W.Bromwich 6b 543
and his wife is back with her folks. I wonder if there was a Mining accident?
HOLLYOAK, Alice Wallace Head Widow F 42 1869 Living On Compensation Staffs West Bromwich HOLLYOAK, Thomas Wallace Son M 9 1902 Staffs West Bromwich HOLLYOAK, Alice Daughter F 7 1904 Staffs West Bromwich HOLLYOAK, John William Son M 4 1907 Staffs West Bromwich ASHTON, Harriet Martha Sister In Law Widow F 37 1874 Living On Compensation Staffs West Bromwich ASHTON, Richard Son M 7 1904 Staffs West Bromwich
RG number: RG14 Piece: 17319 Reference: RG14PN17319 RG78PN1062 RD371 SD4 ED14 SN121 Registration District: West Bromwich Sub District: West Bromwich North East Enumeration District: 14 Parish: West Bromwich Address: 20 Parsonage St West Bromwich County: Staffordshire
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Tania
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7 Oct 2010 14:09 |
hannah then remaried alder oakley in 1912 one son found sidney w oakley m mn ashton born 1918
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Katie
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7 Oct 2010 13:54 |
Marriages for Richard and Paul
Marriages Dec 1901 Ashton Paul W. Bromwich 6b 1513 Ashton Richard W. Bromwich 6b 1513 HOLLYOAK Harriet Martha W. Bromwich 6b 1513 WALTON Sarah Jane W. Bromwich 6b 1513
Paul in 1911 - presumably he married Sarah Jane Walton. They had had another child who had died by 1911.
ASHTON, Paul Head Married M 34 1877 Miner-Hewer Staffs West Bromwich ASHTON, Jane Wife Married 9 years F 30 1881 Staffs West Bromwich ASHTON, Joseph Son M 8 1903 School Staffs West Bromwich ASHTON, Lily Daughter F 6 1905 School Staffs West Bromwich ASHTON, Paul Son M 1 1910 Staffs West Bromwich
RG number: RG14 Piece: 17319 Reference: RG14PN17319 RG78PN1062 RD371 SD4 ED14 SN92 Registration District: West Bromwich Sub District: West Bromwich North East Enumeration District: 14 Parish: West Bromwich Address: 51 All Saints St West Bromwich County: Staffordshire
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7 Oct 2010 13:47 |
Paul was at home in 1881 but Richard was in hospital with 12 other patients.
ASHTON, Richard Patient Single M 6 1875 Scholar West Bromwich Staffordshire
RG number: RG11 Piece: 2845 Folio: 14 Page: 22 Registration District: West Bromwich Sub District: West Bromwich South-West Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: West Bromwich Municipal Borough: Address: District Hospital, Edward St, West Bromwich County: Staffordshire
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7 Oct 2010 12:18 |
Hannah married in 1900 but was a widow by 1911
Marriages Jun 1900 Ashton Hannah W. Bromwich 6b 1482 Beeson John Edward W. Bromwich 6b 1482
Deaths Mar 1909 BEESON John Edward 37 W. Bromwich 6b 542
1911: BEESON, Hannah Wife Widow F 32 1879 Stuckster-Shopkeeper Staffs West Bromwich BEESON, John Edward Son M 7 1904 Staffs West Bromwich BEESON, Percy Son M 5 1906 Staffs West Bromwich BEESON, Lily Daughter F 4 1907 Staffs West Bromwich -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 17319 Reference: RG14PN17319 RG78PN1062 RD371 SD4 ED14 SN84 Registration District: West Bromwich Sub District: West Bromwich North East Enumeration District: 14 Parish: West Bromwich Address: 67 All Saints St West Bromwich County: Staffordshire
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7 Oct 2010 12:12 |
I have found 2 children for Sidney
Births Jun 1912 ASHTON Alice E Slater W.Bromwich 6b 1663
Births Mar 1914 ASHTON Ivy M Slater W Bromwich 6b 1728
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Katie
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7 Oct 2010 11:57 |
William and Kate's children from freebmd Births Sep 1911 ASHTON Mary E Hasdell W. Bromwich 6b 1704
Births Jun 1914 ASHTON Nellie Hasdell W. Bromwich 6b 1811
Births Mar 1919 Ashton William H Hasdell W. Bromwich 6b 1145
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Tania
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7 Oct 2010 11:56 |
1901 England Census about Hannah Beeson Name: Hannah Beeson Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1880 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: John E Beeson Gender: Female Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: West Bromwich Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: West Bromwich Sub-registration district: West Bromwich, North East ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 113 Household Members: Name Age John E Beeson 28 Hannah Beeson 21 Catherine Phillips 84 married 1900
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