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Still trying to suss this lot out & still having no luck.

Thanks for all your help Dee I really appreciate it.

Lorraine x

I think more like needles in haystacks!!! I'm off now for a while, watch a bit of telly.

I'll pop back later and have another look about but I think that we're just banging our heads against a brickwall.............. they really covered their tracks!!


Dee x

Thanks Dee its nice to have someone elses opinion on something that is driving me insane lol.

I tried looking for a death for Charles Boulton but haven't got anything, then I tried looking for anything on a charles Boulton that was in the coldstream guards but still nothing.

I wonder why Ann doesn't have any of her children with her after the closest census that they were born.

George/Francis & William J were on 1851 but not 1861.
Harry & Mary Ann on 1861 but not 1871.

Very strange.

George was with Thomas Tuckey in 1861 but no sign of William J.

I think it gets weirder by the day trying to sort this lot out.

I agree, I doubt it would state a fathers name. I doubt that Ann conjured up the Boulton name from nowhere, so Mr Boulton must have played a part in her life...... like you stated earlier the 2 births for the elder boys may hold the clues, but finding their births registered maybe the first obstacle to overcome.

Oh the joys of our ancestors, what wonderful webs they weave!!! LOL!!

I didn't see that one but then maybe its because of the spelling.

Its something else to go on but I doubt it will tell me a father as Harry's didn't so I think they might stay on hiding a bit longer so more frustration for me lol.

Thanks Dee

Looking for Mary A's birth this maybe a possibility??;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Dec 1860 (>99%)

BOLTON Mary Ann Kensington 1a 86

Dee there is no father on the cert so there is no occupation it just says born 23rd april 1856 in union workhouse slough. He is then on 1861 census & thats the last time I can find him.

The only thing I have found on his sister Mary Ann is that she was 4months old on 1861 census but haven't found her birth yet. so no clues there either.

I've been trying to work this lot out for years & it feels like they are probably up there laughing at how long I have actually been trying to find them.

On Harry's birth cert did it confirm Charles as his father? Did it also state his occupation?


Dee x

Oh Lorraine, I really don't envy you with this one.......... I've had a good look about and I can't see Harry. A couple of possibles for William G and Mary A.... but nothing conclusive and definitely nothing linking them with their father Charles.


Dee x

I would think that was the last place she would want to be when she died as she had her son Harry in the workhouse in Slough, but there is no clues from there just an entry to say that she was in there. I haven't found him after the 1861 census either yet so thats another one I have to try & find.

1901 England Census about Ann Bolton
Name: Ann Bolton
Age: 81
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Burnhead, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Hammersmith
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: St James Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: widow

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: South Hammersmith (including Starch Green)
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 294
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Bolton 81

Dee (Batmansdaughter)

That marriage you found for George Francis Boulton with Mary Ann Boulton as one of the witnesses is not the right one as I have just realised I have his birth certificate. Her maiden name was Day but I still think they could be related to my Boulton's as the names George.Francis & William run through the Boulton side.

Oh God bless her, what an awful thing to have happened to her. It sounds like she was quite a feisty lady though, living an independent life at the age of 90 back then....... one blessing though is that she didn't end her last years in the workhouse, suffering like so many others did.


Dee x

I think the worst part about it was that when she was found they could smell burning & found her hair singed & her head burnt so they applied oil & sent for the Dr. She was then admitted to the hospital suffering from shock from the burns & died the next day. I wouldn't have thought applying oil would've helped too much.

Oh dear poor Ann....being burnt...how horrible.


Regards Vera

Yes Dee it was John & Ann Collier who she was with in 1871.

Lorraine,

I'm still looking. harping back to the marriages for George Francis;

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about George Francis Boulton
Name: George Francis Boulton
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Spouse Name: Ann Gibbs
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 24 Dec 1866
Parish: St Peter, Hammersmith
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Father Name: Charles Boulton
Spouse Father Name: James Gibbs

Witnesses; THOMAS TUCKEY and Eliza Colins or Collier.......... is this the same family as Ann was with in 1871.


Address for both 1 South Street Hammersmith.

Thanks Vera & Dee

I know that Ann died in 1908 through shock from burns after falling into a fire which had no grate infront of it. She was 90 years old. She was living in the same road as her son Francis George but 12 doors down as a lodger. If I can piece together Ann's life then I might be able to find out more about her children & if she was actually married to Charles etc.

1891 England Census about Ann Boulton
Name: Ann Boulton
Age: 74
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Burnham, Berkshire, England
Civil parish: Hammersmith
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: Charwoman

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Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: St Paul Hammersmith
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Boulton 74

Widow is crossed out and it states "S".



Dee x