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Name Frederick E Milliner
Relation to Head of Family
Age Last Birthday 24
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Gunner Royal Car Artillery
Employment Status
Condition as to Marriage Single
Where Born Kent Newington
Address The Fort
Civil Parish Newhaven
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet Newhaven
Ecclesiastical Parish Newhaven St Michaels & Christ Church
Parliamentary Borough or Division Southern Or Eastbourne Division Of Sussex
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Newhaven
Administrative County Sussex

1911????????
Household information
Address 37 Ramsey Road W Hendon
Parish Hendon
Town W Hendon
Type of Building Flats
Number of Rooms 3 Rooms
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN7113 RG78PN349 RD130 SD3 ED12 SN354
Administrative County Middlesex
Registration District Hendon
Registration Sub District Hendon
Enumeration District 12
Householder 1
Name Frederick Edward Millener
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married Married
Gender M
Age 32
Estimated Year of Birth 1879
Occupation Labourer General
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Littingbourne Kent
Householder 2
Name Alice Gertrude Millener
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married Married
Gender F
Age 29
Estimated Year of Birth 1882
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Maidstone Kent
Householder 3
Name Daisy Lousia Law
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1908
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth London Middlesex
Householder 4
Name Eliza Russell
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Condition / Years Married Widow
Gender F
Age 80
Estimated Year of Birth 1831
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Great Hogley Oxford
Infirmity Deaf

1901

Name Frederick E Milliner
Relation to Head of Family
Age Last Birthday 24
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Gunner Royal Car Artillery
Employment Status
Condition as to Marriage Single
Where Born Kent Newington
Address The Fort
Civil Parish Newhaven
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet Newhaven
Ecclesiastical Parish Newhaven St Michaels & Christ Church
Parliamentary Borough or Division Southern Or Eastbourne Division Of Sussex
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Newhaven
Administrative County Sussex

1911??
Personal Information
Name Frederick Milliner
Relationship to Head of Household Boarder
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender M
Age 30
Estimated Year of Birth 1881
Occupation Platelaying Foreman Tramways
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Tram Extension
Place of Birth Gloucester Bristol
Enumerator Information
Address 2 Bay View Terrace Torquay Road Paignton
Parish Paignton
Town Paignton
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 5
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN12789 RG78PN735 RD273 SD1 ED1 SN91
Administrative County Devonshire
Registration District Totnes
Registration Sub District Paignton
Enumeration District 1

using the free search on the 1911

HOUSEHOLD MILLENER FREDERICK EDWARD M 1879 32 Hendon Middlesex


I cannot find who else is in that household ...... you will have to ask someone with a sub to the 1911 if they would be able to look it up for you.


I'm intrigued by the fact that I cannot find any of the family on the 1901 Census ..... they've either gone for a trip in the alien spaceship, or there has been the most incredible mistranscription!




similarly, using the free search on the 1911

HOUSEHOLD LAW ALICE GERTRUDE F 1883 28 Stourbridge Worcestershire
HOUSEHOLD LAW WILLIAM M 1882 29 Stourbridge Worcestershire


no idea of the relationship!



EDIT ..... husband and wife, but they have no connection to you

marriage registration:-

Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%)

CARTWRIGHT Alice Gertrude Stourbridge 6c 193
LAW William Stourbridge 6c 193

Births Dec 1882 (>99%)

Cartwright Alice Gertrude Stourbridge 6c 221





sylvia

so Alice G Milliner died in 1963, in Brighton



England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005

Name: Alice G Milliner
Death Registration Month/Year: 1963
Age at death (estimated): 81
Registration district: Brighton
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 5h
Page: 108



but was she Alice G Smith ............ or Alice G Law, as indicated by the marriage registration?




sylvia

Births Jun 1882 (>99%)

Smith Alice Gertrude Maidstone 2a 713



This MIGHT be Alice Gertrude in 1891 ...... but you won't know for certain unless you get the birth certificate to determine the names of her parents.


1891 Census

Name: Alice G Smith
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry Smith
Mother's Name: Sarah Smith
Gender: Female
Where born: Maidstone, Kent, England

Civil parish: Maidstone
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Barming
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Maidstone
Sub-registration district: West Maidstone

Henry Smith 56 b.ca 1835, Witham, Kent, Hawker
Sarah Smith 55 b.ca 1836, Witham
Alfred Smith 19 b.ca 1872, Maidstone
Alice G Smith 8

Address:- Cottages




sylvia

??? his marriage ......... ??? to Alice G Law???

Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)

Broomfield Herbert A Hendon 3a 611
Law Alice G Hendon 3a 611
Milliner Frederick E Hendon 3a 611
Rounding Minnie E Hendon 3a 611





sylvia

Frederick's birth registration

Births Mar 1877 (>99%)

Milliner Frederick Edward Hollingbourn 2a 705




sylvia

Thomas and Emma in 1901 ..... but no Frederick

1901 Census

Name: Thomas Milliner
Age: 63
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emma Milliner
Gender: Male
Where born: Stockbury, Kent, England

Civil parish: Borden
Ecclesiastical parish: Borden St Peter and St Paul
Town: Borden
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Milton
Sub-registration district: Milton

Thomas Milliner 63 Groom (domestic)
Emma Milliner 50 b.ca 1851, Stackbury, Kent <<<< should be Stockbury
Walter Milliner 19 b.ca 1882, Stackbury, Farm Yardman
Ethel Milliner 14 b.ca 1887, Stackbury

Address:- Pond Cottage



sylvia

I cannot find Emma anywhere on the censuses before the 1881 when she is already married

There are her birth registrations, and her marriage registration


You may have to buy one or both of those to find her parents names!




sylvia

Isn't it just!!


Emma's birth registration

Name: Emma Lavinia Bush Brittenden
Year of Registration: 1852
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Hollingbourne
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 393 (click to see others on page)



sylvia

Thank you!!
Been searching (slowly) myself and coming up with a few of the names also..
This is so addictive!!!!

?????? Thomas in 1851 and 1861

1851 Census

Name: Thomas Milliner
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Willm Milliner
Mother's Name: Mary Milliner
Gender: Male
Where born: Stockbury, Kent, England

Civil parish: Stockbury
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Hollingbourn
Sub-registration district: Hollingbourn

Willm Milliner Above 40 b.ca 1811, Hollingbe, Kent, Farm Labourer
Mary Milliner Above 40 b.ca 1811, Stockbury
Thomas Milliner 14
Maria Milliner 11 b.ca 1840, Stockbury
Elizth Ann Milliner 7 b.ca 1844, Stockbury
Frederic Milliner 6 b.ca 1845, Stockbury
Francis Milliner 4 b.ca 1847, Stockbury, Daughter

Address:- South Dean



1861 Census

Name: Thomas Milliner
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary Milliner
Gender: Male
Where born: Stockbury

Civil parish: Stockbury
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Hollinbourn
Sub-registration district: Hollingbourn

Mary Milliner 57 b.ca 1804, Stockbury, Widow
Thomas Milliner 23 Ag Lab
Maria Milliner 21 b.ca 1840, Stockbury
Frederick Milliner 19 b.ca 1842, Stockbury, Ag Lab
Jemima Milliner 6 MO Granddaughter

Address:- South ??Dean



sylvia

???????? Thomas and Emma's marriage registration


Marriages Jun 1874 (>99%)

BRITTENDEN Emma Lavinia B Hollingbourn 2a 985
MILLINER Thomas Hollingbourn 2a 985



I haven't yet found Frederick on the 1901 Census


sylvia

1891 Census

Name: Frederick Milliner
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Milliner
Mother's Name: Emma Milliner
Gender: Male
Where born: Stockbury, Kent, England

Civil parish: Meopham
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
Town: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Strood
Sub-registration district: Northfleet

Thomas Milliner 49 b.ca 1842, Stockbury, Ag Lab
Emma Milliner 43 b.ca 1848, Stockbury
Frederick Milliner 14 Ag Lab
Carrie Milliner 11 b.ca 1880, Stockbury
George Milliner 6 b.ca 1885, Stockbury
Ethel Milliner 4 b.ca 1887, Stockbury
Arthur Clinch 19 Boarder, Ag Lab

Address:- 1 Camer Street


looks as though Thomas lost a couple of eyars, and Emma gained a few!!!


sylvia

It seems he was born in Stockbury, which is in Kent ..... Hollingbourn is the registration district that includes Stockbury



1881 Census

Name: Frederick Milliner
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Milliner
Mother's Name: Emma Milliner
Gender: Male
Where born: Stockbury, Kent, England

Civil parish: Stockbury
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address: The Street

Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Hollingbourn
Sub-registration district: Hollingbourn

Thomas Milliner 41 b.ca 1840, Stockbury, Ag Lab
Emma Milliner 28 b.ca 1853, Stockbury
Thomas Milliner 6 b.ca 1875, Stockbury
Frederick Milliner 4
Caroline Milliner 1 b.ca 1880, Stockbury



Incidentally, Ria ... you can look at the 1881 Census for free on www.familysearch.org ......... clcik on Advanced Search, scroll down to Censuses.

You cannot look at the actual image, but you cann see who lives in a household.




sylvia

Frederick milliner b-1877 Hollingbourne
d-1953 Brighton

Trying to find his parents and siblings. (Any help, would be fantastic)

Also Alice Gertrude Smith b-c1881 Maidstone KENT
d-1963 Brighton

Also trying to find parents and siblings (Alice father : Henry smith?)

thanks guys x

I also pm'd the possible / probable Law - Welch children



sylvia

There are 4 possible children born to Daisy, all possibly/probably still living


I'll pm the names to you



sylvia