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Christine
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30 Sep 2010 18:30 |
Parents names for Morgan David and William came from my aunt which stated that Margret Jane Davies (Margaret) married Evan Richards. Other details she gave me were that Morgan married Mary ? and had 4 children Getta, Ena, Jim and another (no name) William married Janet Lewis who was a post mistress. But unfortunately no dates.
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30 Sep 2010 20:13 |
I911 Morgans wife Mary at home with her parents??? Jane Margetta (Getta) and Ena at least are there with her plus another couple,but I am finding no marriage for her and him..
Ena and Getta are twins?
EDWARDS, Dimon Head Married M 60 1851 Farmer Cardigan Llansantffread EDWARDS, Jane Wife Married 39 years F 60 1851 Cardigan Llansantffread JONES, Margrate Sister Single F 75 1836 Cardigan Llansantffread EDWARDS, Simon Edwin Son Single M 25 1886 Farmers Son Working On Farm Cardigan Llansantffread EDWARDS, Evan Morgan Son Single M 22 1889 Farmers Son Working On Farm Cardigan Llansantffread RICHARDS, Mary Daughter Married F 36 1875 Cardigan Llansantffread RICHARDS, Evan David Edward Grandson M 4 1907 Cardigan Llansantffread RICHARDS, Ena Mary Granddaughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Cardigan Llansantffread RICHARDS, Jane Margetta Granddaughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Cardigan Llansantffread JONES, Margaret Mary Servant Single F 16 1895 General Servant Domestic Cardigan GEORGE, William Servant Married M 26 1885 Worker On Farm Leamster Cardigan Llansantffread GEORGE, Kate Servant Married 1 years F 22 1889 General Servant Domestic Cardigan Lalsarn Registration District: Aberayron Sub District: Llansantffraid Enumeration District: 14 Parish: Llansantffraid Address: Alltgoch Llanon Aberystwyth County: Cardiganshire
Births Mar 1911 Richards Jane M Aberayron 11b 33
No Ena on the same page but a Thomas? Richards Thomas E Aberayron 11b 33
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patchem
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30 Sep 2010 20:15 |
Only Getta born in Aberystwyth: Births Jun 1907 ROWLANDS Getta Mary Aberystwith 11b 52 No Getta Richards anywhere in free bmd.
There is this census entry, but the dates do not make sense, as if Morgan is a brother of David he should be born a lot later than 1828., and not Bangor. 1871 Wales Census Gitta Richards Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Morgan Richards Mother's Name: Margaret Richards Gender: Female Where born: Bangor Civil parish: Bangor Ecclesiastical parish: Bangor Town: Bangor County/Island: Caernarvonshire Country: Wales Registration district: Bangor Sub-registration district: Bangor ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 100 Morgan Richards 43 Caernarfonshire Margaret Richards 36 Peter Waldo Richards 13 Annis Richards 12 Ella Richards 10 Gitta Richards 8 Morgan Richards 4 Kittey Richards 3 Arthur Richards 2 Mime Richards 8 Months W H Roberts 19 Jane Price 25 Ellen Owens 19 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5727; Folio: 31; Page: 21; GSU roll: 895818.
There are lots more Ena Richards, not Aberystwyth in free bmd, this one very vaguely possible in 1911 census, : EDWARDS, Simon Head Married M 60 1851 Farmer Cardigan Llansantffread EDWARDS, Jane Wife Married 39 years F 60 1851 Cardigan Llansantffread JONES, Margrate Sister Single F 75 1836 Cardigan Llansantffread EDWARDS, Simon Edwin Son Single M 25 1886 Farmers Son Working On Farm Cardigan Llansantffread EDWARDS, Evan Morgan Son Single M 22 1889 Farmers Son Working On Farm Cardigan Llansantffread RICHARDS, Mary Daughter Married 6 years 3 children, all aliveF 36 1875 Cardigan Llansantffread RICHARDS, Evan David Edward Grandson M 4 1907 Cardigan Llansantffread xxx RICHARDS, Ena Mary Granddaughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Cardigan Llansantffread RICHARDS, Jane Margetta Granddaughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Cardigan Llansantffread JONES, Margaret Mary Servant Single F 16 1895 General Servant Domestic Cardigan GEORGE, William Servant Married M 26 1885 Worker On Farm Leamster Cardigan Llansantffread GEORGE, Kate Servant Married 1 years F 22 1889 General Servant Domestic Cardigan Lalsarn
RG number: RG14 Piece: 33417 Reference: RG14PN33417 RG78PN1917 RD606 SD2 ED14 SN24 Registration District: Aberayron Sub District: Llansantffraid Enumeration District: 14 Parish: Llansantffraid Address: Alltgoch Llanon Aberystwyth County: Cardiganshire Added: late snap, getting stuck wuth Getta Added: Ena Mary is 2 on the original
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patchem
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30 Sep 2010 20:18 |
?? Marriages Sep 1904 xxx Edwards Mary Islington 1b 465 Griffith Louisa Nellie Islington 1b 465 Renwick William Frederick Islington 1b 465 xxx Richards Evan Morgan Islington 1b 465
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FannyByGaslight
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30 Sep 2010 20:29 |
Patricia. Bangor is a different place to Capel Bangor One is in North Wales and the other in Cardiganshire West wales.
But a good possible for the marriage.
Transcript is wrong for the 1911,image says Ena is 2 yrs old
Births Dec 1908 Richards Ena Mary Aberayron 11b 32
Where they are living comes under Aberayron Reg district.
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patchem
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30 Sep 2010 20:35 |
I know Bangor is no good, it was the only Getta/Gitta I could find. We have been given very few verifiable facts, so was wondering what was real and what had slipped a few generations. But now 1911 census looks good, and the marriage will give Fathers' names, and age of groom, so progress?
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FannyByGaslight
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30 Sep 2010 21:00 |
All 3 boys David,William and Evan M,all in the same district that Mary Richards Nee Edwards is. Living next door to William Richards aged 40 who is a Master Mariner.
Margaret Jane..Jane?Husband at sea?
1891
RICHARDS, Jane Head Married F 35 1846 Llansantfread Cardiganshire Wales RICHARDS, William Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar Llansantfread Cardiganshire Wales RICHARDS, Evan M Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar Llansantfread Cardiganshire Wales RICHARDS, David Son Single M 2 1879 Llansantfread Cardiganshire Wales RG number: RG11 Piece: 5443 Folio: 66 Page: 16 Registration District: Aberayron Sub District: Llansaintffraid Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Llansaintffraid Municipal Borough: Address: Siberia, Llansaintffraid County: Cardiganshire
Births Dec 1873 Richards Evan Morgan Aberayron 11b 49
Births Sep 1871 Richards William Aberayron 11b 51
3 choices for David.
Births Mar 1878 Richards David Daniel Aberayron 11b 51 Births Jun 1879 Richards David Aberayron 11b 53 Births Sep 1880 RICHARDS David Lloyd Aberayron 11b 50
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patchem
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30 Sep 2010 21:09 |
So David is not 1876, and not Aberystwyth, and not Margaret Jane. Well done. And I like the added touch of the Siberia address.
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Christine
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30 Sep 2010 21:09 |
Getta Richards remained single and was a naval S.R.N, Ena was also S.R.N but married (no details of husband) Jim married and had children (again no details)
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patchem
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30 Sep 2010 21:10 |
? Evan M Richards Death Registration Month/Year: 1921 Age at death (estimated): 47 Registration district: Aberayron Inferred County: Cardiganshire Volume: 11b Page: 59
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FannyByGaslight
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30 Sep 2010 21:14 |
Well it IS cold in Aberayron as I well know,I went to school there!
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Christine
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30 Sep 2010 21:15 |
Ah! thanks for finding these 3 boys for me, I think some of the details my aunt has told me are incorrect - well I think I should forgive her - she is 93yrs old.
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FannyByGaslight
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30 Sep 2010 21:19 |
One of the boys birth certs will give you their parents correct names. William Or Evan Morgan I would get as David is a choice of three really.
But one of the marriages as well would be a good idea to cross Check. Dodgy trying to do Welsh FH without certs,so easy to go wrong.
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Christine
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30 Sep 2010 21:21 |
Thanks for all your help
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FannyByGaslight
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30 Sep 2010 21:26 |
This marriage would be a good one. I cant find a William Richards marrying a Janet Lewis
Marriages Mar 1912 Richards Davy Smith Aberystwith 11b 45 Smith Janet Richards Aberystwith 11b 45
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LEWIS, Janet Head Single F 32 1869 Subpost Mistress & Shopkeeper Llanbadarnfawr Cardiganshire LEWIS, Richard W Brother Single M 19 1882 Postal Assistant Llanbadarnfawr Cardiganshire WILLIAMS, Jane A Visitor Single F 20 1881 Borth Cardiganshire Registration District: Aberystwith Sub District: Rheidol Enumeration District: 12 Ecclesiastical Parish: Bangor St David Civil Parish: Melindwr Municipal Borough: Address: Post Office, Melindwr County: Cardiganshire
And then she went to Yorkshire after marrying???
RICHARDS, Janet Passenger Daughter Married 3 years F 40 1871 Sub Postmistress Cardiganshire Capel Bayas Registration District: Sculcoates Sub District: Drypool Enumeration District: 32 Parish: Sculcoates Address: Alexandra Dock Hull County: Yorkshire (East riding)
On the image she is on a ship(Dalrymple from Glasgow,Corn Trader) with William Richards ,and he is the Master of it and he is born 1872 Llanon Cards,and she is NOT down as daughter.
Married 3 yrs,no children.
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