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Morwenna Hawker

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Katie

Katie Report 24 Sep 2010 22:38

Can anyone help solve this puzzle for a friend of mine! Morwenna Pauline Hawker was born in Morwentstow Cornwall in 1865. She was one of the three daughters of Rev Robert Stephen Hawker's 2nd marriage. She married Charles Solomon Newman, a wealthy Jewish man, in Lewisham in 1889.
They are living at 2 Manchester St, Brighton with her mother and sisters in 1891. No trace can be found after that. Charles Newman died in a fire in Kensington in 1899 - Morwenna is not mentioned in his obituary.
Have tried all the usual records ( I think )! Any ideas?
Katie

tempest

tempest Report 24 Sep 2010 23:10

for reference 1891 England Census

about Charles S Newman Name: Charles S Newman
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Morwenna Newman
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Brighton
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England


Registration district: Brighton
Sub-registration district: Kemp Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles S Newman 33
Morwenna Newman 25
Pauline A Hawker 48
Rosalind Hawker 23
Tuliot Hawker 21
Andre P S Ambard 17
Walter F Ambard 14
George D S Olivant 23
Harriet L Olivant 21
Mary A Cross 50
Isabel Stonard 46
Carrie Baber 31
Charles Cracbrnell 23
Annie Brentman 25


FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 24 Sep 2010 23:48

Nothing,I find nothing.

I tried checking passenger lists on Find My Past but it is refusing to go to the page.
Maybe it will go there tomorrow,but I have sent them a message as well to get it sorted out for me.

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 24 Sep 2010 23:50

What about the other sisters? Has she tracked them?

Rose

patchem

patchem Report 24 Sep 2010 23:57

Have you tried a google search for her?:

HAWKER, MORWENNA PAULINE. 1865-1908. Pseudonym: Lanoe Falconer, q.v.

Connection?

Plus lots of information on her Father.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 25 Sep 2010 00:00

MORWENNA PAULINE HAWKER Pedigree
Female
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 07 JAN 1866 Morwenstow, Cornwall, England

Age at Christening: 1
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Parents:
Father: ROBERT STEPHEN HAWKER Family
Mother: PAULINE ANNE
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 25 Sep 2010 00:02

1881

Sophia BROWNE Other W Female 57 York, England Nun Works Of Charity
Eliza VATER Other U Female 52 Hallaborough, Somerset, England Works Of Charity
Cecilia EXTON Other U Female 24 Eaton Bishop, Hereford, England Works Of Charity
Robinia DAW Other U Female 24 Ballarat, Australia Nun Works Of Charity
Ellen COSGROVE Other U Female 24 London, London, Middlesex, England Works Of Charity
Catherine MULEALEY Other U Female 23 Bristol Works Of Charity
Christiana ERSKINE Boarder U Female 25 Turin, Italy Works Of Charity
Pauline HAWKER Boarder W Female 37 London, London, Middlesex, England Works Of Charity
Mary WINTHROP Boarder U Female 29 Bognore, Sussex, England Works Of Charity
Jessie MATTHEWS Boarder U Female 23 London, London, Middlesex, England Works Of Charity
Morwenna HAWKER Other Female 15 Morwenstow, Cornwall, England Scholar
Linda HAWKER Other Female 13 Morwenstow, Cornwall, England Scholar
Ethel WALMESLEY Other Female 14 Halwell, Devon, England Scholar
Geraldine UNILIKE Other Female 13 Torquay, Devon, England Scholar
Mary TIGHE Other Female 14 Trincomali, Ceylon Scholar
Marian SEAGER Other Female 9 London, London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Kate DARGAN Other Female 14 Taunton Scholar
Ada COLERIDGE Other Female 14 Teignmouth, Devon, England Scholar
Agnes COX Other Female 13 Newton, Devon, England Scholar
Margaret KELLY Other Female 15 Waymouth, Dorset, England Scholar
(Continued)


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Source Information:
Dwelling S. Mary's Priory
Census Place Newton Abbot St Mary Church, Devon, England
Family History Library Film 1341523
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2170 / 14
Page Number 21

Katie

Katie Report 25 Sep 2010 00:03

The other sisters are traced - Juliot became a nun and Rosalind married and had a daughter.

The google search that throws up Lanoe Falconer is wrong! Mary Hawker, a writer who never married, used that pseudonym. She has no known connection to the other Hawker family. Mary/Lanoe did die in 1908.

Katie

Katie

Katie Report 25 Sep 2010 00:09

I did find this marriage but cannot find Morwenna Mitchell prior to 1922 or a death for her. I can't link Morwenna Hawker/Newman to the surname Mitchell.

Marriages Jun 1922
Jackman Gladys M Wilson Exeter 5b 236
MITCHELL Morwenna P Tillbrook Exeter 5b 236
TILLBROOK Henry M Mitchell Exeter 5b 236
WILSON Reginald J Jackman Exeter 5b 236

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 25 Sep 2010 00:13

Katie, Rosalind had more than one daughter.

Marriages Dec 1897
BYLES Charles Edward Eton 3a 1250
HAWKER Rosalind Eton 3a 1250
JOSEY Elizabeth Eton 3a 1250
Whitehouse Robert Henry Eton 3a 1250

1911
BYLES CHARLES EDWARD M 1874 37 Wandsworth London
BYLES ROSALINDA F 1868 43 Wandsworth London
BYLES IRENE MARGARET F 1900 11 Wandsworth London
BYLES EDITH MARIAN HAWKER F 1903 8 Wandsworth London
BYLES ROSALINA MORWENNA F 1905 6 Wandsworth London


Births Jun 1899
Byles Irene Margaret Holborn 1b 671

Births Sep 1902
Byles Edith Marian H Cambridge 3b 475

Births Mar 1905
Byles Rosalind Morwenna Brentford 3a 178

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 25 Sep 2010 00:18

It is such an unusual name and the same middle initial that it makes it almost definitely her!

I cant find a death under Tillbrook or another marriage either??

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 25 Sep 2010 00:21

Here are all the deaths for a Morwenna 1922-1945, I would be particularly interested in the Sept 1932 registration;

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
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Deaths Mar 1929 (>99%)
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Lilley Morwenna A 28 Bideford 5b 792

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Deaths Sep 1932 (>99%)
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Mabbott Morwenna 68 Penzance 5c 231

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Deaths Sep 1934 (>99%)
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Morris Morwenna 0 Bangor 11b 490

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Deaths Dec 1935 (99%)
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Davis Morwenna 1 Bristol 6a 30

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Deaths Mar 1937 (97%)
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Thomas Morwenna M 41 Plymouth 5b 429

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Deaths Jun 1938 (>99%)
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Gregory Morwenna B 2 Aldershot 2c 226

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Deaths Sep 1944 (99%)
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Dixon Morwenna H 63 Upper Agbrigg 9a 389

Obviously the young children can be discounted.

Mike *

Mike * Report 25 Sep 2010 00:23

The only births for Tillbrook in Devon (1929 and 1932 )have maiden name Coombe.

Katie

Katie Report 25 Sep 2010 00:27

Have just checked 1911 for Morwenna Mabbott but that rules her out.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 25 Sep 2010 00:29

Just for info

Name: Morwena P Tillbrook
Death Registration Month/Year: 1926
Age at death (estimated): 26
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume: 5b
Page: 192


So probably rules out the Mitchell/Tillbrook marriage

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 25 Sep 2010 00:29

have you noticed there is a Linda Hawker with Morwenna at St Mary's Priory

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 25 Sep 2010 00:33

Hi Glitter Baby

Just questioning your death posting as we have Morwenna being born ca 1865 and the death says 26? Although if it has been mistranscribed age 62 would be about right?

Katie

Katie Report 25 Sep 2010 00:34

Yes - I presume she is her sister Rosalind/a

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 25 Sep 2010 00:34

Vanessa

I was just checking out the earlier posting of a possible marriage

Marriages Jun 1922
Jackman Gladys M Wilson Exeter 5b 236
MITCHELL Morwenna P Tillbrook Exeter 5b 236
TILLBROOK Henry M Mitchell Exeter 5b 236
WILSON Reginald J Jackman Exeter 5b 236

So ruled it out

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 25 Sep 2010 00:38

Bit of a puzzle this one isnt it! Likewise, adding options to rule them out - or otherwise if we are lucky :0)