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some person has copied the whole of my tree and i am so angry with it, my tree and my ancestors has nothing to do with this person.
just gone onto ancestry and there is all the members of my tree on this site also, they have copied every single person of it. whats wrong with them is it the bigger the tree the better they look?. i have found that when i come on here they have added a new more names to there tree and it's not just one it's about 10 onwards.
i have done all the work myself with a help from the lovely people on here or family members. not to mention the cost of items, what gives these people the right to take all your hard work makes me so angry!! i stopped them looking through my tree so they must have got the info of my ancestry one down to the very last detail. they added some more info to there's .
wheres the fun in pinching other peoples hard work.
a very angry debbie
do i make contact or what?

If you put your tree on a public site like this or ancestry there is nothing you can do about it.

The lesson is dont put full details of your tree on a public site if you dont want people to copy it.

All the info is in the public domain and you dont have copy write to it

You can contact the person who has copied you tree and ask them to take the names off but they are under no obligation to do so

take your tree off the public sites and and save it on a disc for your own use only.

Unfotuattly there are plenty of people of will copy trees instead of doing the hard work themselves.

hi lorraine
your right but i put my tree is on the sites so people can see and help or vice versa,
if they ask your permission to add names theres nothing wrong in that but stealing is another thing. they even added wrong birth places at the beginning and argued the toss i was wrong.
debbie

Just to add, that on Ancestry you can make your tree"private" then no one can see it without they contact you first, even then you are not obliged, to give access.

Having a public tree on Ancestry is one of the easiest to copy.


George

hi george
and thanks for that i have deleted the contact altogether now
debbie

I know how you feel Debbie & it hurts

Someone added my Nan to their tree, this person was a very distant relative of my Aunts husband, claiming if anyone want to know anything about their family all you need to do is ask.....well what could they tell anyone about my nan, absolutely nothing........Cos they didn't know her

hi julie
exactly what can they tell you about your relatives.
this person isn't even a relative or blood.
this person just wants to collect names.
debbie

The best you can do is ask that any living persons are removed.

If a person copies your tree and the info is in the public domain, BMD indexes, parish registers ect, then they can argue they are free to add the info to their tree....You have just pointed them in the right direction to find the info themselves.

Whether they can morally do it is another arguement and one that regularly crops up on here.

Personally if I have been given info, that I have then confirmed by my own research, I will always note in my source records the originator for the info. I believe that they should have recoginition for their work.

Likewise I would hope somone would note me in their source records but sadly it rarely happens.

I 'mark' my certs/records that I copy to other people and I can't tell you how many times I get the same copies back attributed to other people's research, some of whom I haven't the faintest idea who they are!!!!!

Chris

I do understand how you feel because the same thing happened to me, probably by the same person. However I think his motives for copying are meant to be helpful to others.
Although my tree was copied I did get valuable information from the tree, which assisted me in finding my Great Grand Father.
I know he has also helped another member with her ancestors.
Try to be positive, as a result of this you may be contacted by relatives you never knew you had.
Regards
Tom

hi Thomas
how did you quess it was a he?
debbie

Funny that cos mind was a he too llol....i wonder if its the same he

hahaha
julie it might be because every time i go on here he has added a lot more names
debbie

I didnt know that family trees are open to everyone, I thought others only seen them if you wanted them to.

so did I thought only people who requested to view your tree could.

Teresa

On here no one has access to your tree unless you give them permission....If you do give them permission then they are free to take the info and do with it what they wish unless you stipulate otherwise. Even then they can chose to ignore your requests.

On Ancestry, the site Deborah is refering to as info from her tree being posted on, you have the option to make a tree 'Public' which means everything you post is available to view....Or 'Private' which means your tree is not open to all and someone has to contact you to have access.

Chris

Teresa & Christine

On here you can only see them if they are opened to you

Chris I would be interested to know which site Ancestry have put Private Trees. Mine is private and I do not wish it to be open to just anyone.

Jennifer

This is what it says on Ancestry

This setting makes your tree "Private" so that it can't be viewed as a Public Member Tree. Note that the information from your tree will still be indexed for searching, but those who find your information can't view your tree without your permission.
What does this mean?
Even if you don't share your tree, other members can still learn if a specific deceased individual is in your tree, in addition to the birth year and birthplace of the person and your username (but no personal information about you).
They can then contact you anonymously through the Connection Service on Ancestry.com sites to request more information. Keep in mind that members who want to learn from your tree may also have helpful information about your tree to offer you in exchange.


Also prevent your tree from being found in the search index.
Note: although your tree will instantly become public or private, it usually takes about a week or more to be reflected in the search index.


So I don't see how they can make a Private Tree, Public on another site

I understand you are upset but someone coping the names from your tree onto theres is not stealing, they do not belong to you, they are easily obtainable from freebmd, parish record, igi etc.

Yes I agree Lorraine but still think it would be good manners to contact someone first before taking all their tree. Plus I have spent a small fortune on certificates to get it right.I made mine private after someone copied it and all my photos only 1 of which was relevant to her tree.. She did at least remove them all but the relevant photo when I asked . So a lesson learned