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25 Aug 2010 10:29 |
I am trying to find Robert Nathaniel Clifton on the 1881 Census.
He was born in Great Yarmouth, Norfolk in 1865 -parents Hezekiah and Georgianna Clifton. Robert married in Susan Fox in May of 1881 and I their subsequent children but cannot locate him on the 1881 census but can find him on the 1891 and 1901 records.
Help would be most appreciated.
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Jonesey
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25 Aug 2010 10:38 |
Here is the marriage mentioned for reference:
Marriages Jun 1881 (>99%) CLIFTON Robert Nathaniel Kingston 2a 512 FOX Susan Kingston 2a 512
Although legal, 16 seems a bit young for a male marriage.
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AnnCardiff
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25 Aug 2010 10:40 |
1881
Hezekiah CLIFTON Head M Male 52 Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Decorator Annie CLIFTON Wife M Female 40 Hampton, Middlesex, England Decorators Wife Annie CLIFTON Daur Female 12 Hampton Wick, Middlesex, England Scholar Mary CLIFTON Daur Female 7 Hampton Wick, Middlesex, England Scholar Ruth CLIFTON Daur Female 5 Hampton Wick, Middlesex, England Scholar Margaret CLIFTON Daur Female 1 Hampton Wick, Middlesex, England Scholar
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Wick Rd 1 Hampton Terr Paper Hangers Shop Census Place London, Middlesex, England Family History Library Film 1341199 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0842 / 64 Page Number 17
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AnnCardiff
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25 Aug 2010 10:41 |
HEZEKIAH THOMAS FORYER CLIFTON Pedigree Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 16 AUG 1828 Christening: 28 JUN 1830 Tabernacle-Primitive Methodist, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JOHN THOMAS CLIFTON Family Mother: MARY ANN FRYER -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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jolee
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25 Aug 2010 10:41 |
For info Hezekiah Thomas Fryer Clifton born 27/10/1857 Great Yarmouth Norfolk died 06/01/1876 in Kingston Surrey. Married 26/12/1863 in Great Yarmouth Georgianna Tulubieff Smith born 05/10/1822 died 17/03/1865 Looks like they may have been in Surrey in 1881
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25 Aug 2010 10:42 |
Hezekiah Thomas Fryer Clifton Compact Disc #142 Pin #3414984 Pedigree Sex: M
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s) Birth: 16 Aug 1828 Ferry Boat Row, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Death: 1 Aug 1915 14 Fairfax Road, Teddington, Surrey, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents Father: John Thomas Clifton Disc #142 Pin #3414982 Mother: Mary Ann Frier Disc #142 Pin #3414983
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriage(s) Spouse: Annie Goodall Disc #142 Pin #3416022 Marriage: 14 Feb 1867 Kingston, Surrey, England Spouse: Georgianna Tulubieff Smith Disc #142 Pin #3415778 Marriage: 26 Dec 1853 Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
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25 Aug 2010 10:42 |
Hezekiah Thomas Fryer Clifton Compact Disc #142 Pin #3415784 Pedigree Sex: M
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s) Birth: 27 Oct 1857 Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Death: 6 Jan 1876 Kingston, Surrey, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents Father: Hezekiah Thomas Fryer Clifton Disc #142 Pin #3414984 Mother: Georgianna Tulubieff Smith
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jolee
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25 Aug 2010 10:44 |
Ref Ann of Green Gables info - looks like Hezekiah married twice. I have put the wrong marriage uear should be 1853 - sorry.
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Esta
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25 Aug 2010 10:44 |
Jonesey - it is odd that Robert married so young. Robert doesn't seem to appear though with his family on the 1881 census
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Jonesey
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25 Aug 2010 10:46 |
1891: Name: Robert N Clifton Age: 31 Estimated birth year: >>abt 1860>abt 1860>
EDIT: Error spotted by Catherine who has put the correct 1891 transcription below.
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Jonesey
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25 Aug 2010 10:56 |
1901:
Name: Robert Clifton Age: 41 Estimated birth year: >>abt 1860<< Relation: Head Spouse's name: Susan Gender: Male Where born: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Civil parish: Watford Ecclesiastical parish: Watford St Mary County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street Address:
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View image Registration district: Watford Sub-registration district: Watford ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 27 Household Members: Name Age Robert Clifton 41 Susan Clifton 41 Lottie Clifton 15 Walter Clifton 14 Ethel Clifton 13 Charles Clifton 11 Ada Clifton 5 William Clifton 4 Stephen Clifton 2 Hilda Clifton 11 months
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Catherine
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25 Aug 2010 11:15 |
That's strange, ages seem to be the same on both 1891 and 1901 census records????
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Catherine
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25 Aug 2010 11:32 |
1891
Name: Robert N Clifton Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Susan Gender: Male Where born: Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Civil parish: Acton Ecclesiastical parish: St Dunstan Town: Acton County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: House Decorator Registration district: Brentford Sub-registration district: Acton ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert N Clifton 31 Susan Clifton 31 Susannah C M Clifton 9 born: Hampton Wick, Middlesex Lily F Clifton 8 Florence Clifton 6 Letty G Clifton 5 born: Hammersmith Walter Clifton 4 born: Kensington W Ethel C Clifton 3 Charles A Clifton 1
Births Mar 1882 Clifton Susan Charlotte M Kingston 2a 371
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Jonesey
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25 Aug 2010 11:45 |
Well done Catherine, you spotted my deliberate mistake (lol).
I posted the 1891 first and then tried to edit the post by adding the 1901 to it and I cocked up. So I then made another post of just the 1901. I forgot to then edit the 1891 back to its original.
"We all make them" as the hedgehog said as he climbed off the scrubbing brush.
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Catherine
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25 Aug 2010 11:50 |
1871 he is under the name of Nathaniel!:-
Name: Nathaniel Clifton Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relation: Son Father's Name: Henry H Mother's Name: Annie Gender: Male Where born: Gt Garmouth, Norfolk, England Civil parish: Hampton Wick Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Kingston Sub-registration district: Hampton ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 88 Household Members: Name Age Henry H Clifton 43 [Hezekiah T. F. Clifton] - Engineer Annie Clifton 31 Henry Clifton 15 Nathaniel Clifton 12 Sarah Clifton 9 Annie Clifton 2 John T Clifton 6 months
.............so 1871 the family were living Middlesex.
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Catherine
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25 Aug 2010 11:51 |
Nice one Jonesey, poor Hedgehog!
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Esta
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25 Aug 2010 12:53 |
Thank you for tracking him down. I wish they'd stop changing names around it would make life a little easier!
The look ups are much appreciated.
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Catherine
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25 Aug 2010 16:27 |
1861 - (also noted as Nathaniel)
Name: Nathaniel Clifton Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Son Father's Name: Hezekiah Mother's Name: George Anna Gender: Male Where born: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Civil parish: Acle Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Address: Ploughmans House Registration district: Blofield Sub-registration district: South Walsham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 74 Household Members: Name Age Hezekiah Clifton 32 born: Yarmouth, Norfolk (Independant - Minister ? Chapel) George Anna Clifton 38 born: Yarmouth, Norfolk George Anna Clifton 6 Hezekiah Clifton 3 Nathaniel Clifton 1
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Esta
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25 Aug 2010 16:37 |
Robert Nathaniel Clifton still doesn't appear to be on the 1881 census though. I've found him on all the others with everyone's help and I previously had tracked his marriage and children but where was in 1881?
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Catherine
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25 Aug 2010 16:43 |
I noticed earlier that Hezekiah died in 1876, but I found this which looks to be him:-
Deaths Sep 1915 (>99%) Clifton Hezekiah T F 86 Kingston 2a 488
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