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The Robert with those army records married Jane Coldrick is that the right one JC


ja...x

British Army Service Records 1760-1913
First name(s): Robert

Last name: DAUBNEY

Calculated year of birth: 1865

Parish of birth: West Ham

Town of birth: West Ham

County of birth: Essex

Age at attestation: 14 years 4 months

Attestation date: 14 August 1879

Attestation corps: 1ST BRIGADE

Attestation soldier number: 2465

Discharge rank:

Discharge corps:

1891 census - household transcription
Person: DAUBENEY, Robert
Institution: Cambridge Barrack, Frances Street Woolwich
DAUBENEY, Robert Head Married M 25 1866 Sergt Drummer 1st Zusiliers London
DAUBENEY, Robert Son M 0 (5M) 1891
Woolwich Kent
DAUBENEY, Jane Wife Married F 21 1870
Gloucester Gloucestershire


My great grandparents on the same street a while later as did my grandparents mother and myself when I was newborn.

Are you lot having a laugh asking MC if she has seen the photo?

ja...x

1911 census - household transcription
Person: DAUBENEY, Robert Tant
Address: 93 Hotspur St Newcastle-On-Tyne
DAUBENEY, Robert Tant Head Married M 46 1865 Bank Porter Army Pensioner Stratford Essex
DAUBENEY, Jane Wife Married
21 years F 45 1866 Gloucester Newert
DAUBENEY, Robt Tait Son Single M 20 1891 Barman Kent Woolwick
DAUBENEY, Gertrude Alice Daughter Single F 18 1893 Clerk Kent Daved
DAUBENEY, Winifred May Daughter Single F 15 1896 Hants Portsmouth
DAUBENEY, Eveline Genevive Daughter F 11 1900 Northd Allendale
DAUBENEY, Yvonne Irene Daughter F 8 1903 Northd Hayden Bridge
DAUBENEY, Vera Agnes Daughter F 4 1907 Northd Newcastle

So 165 and Stratford Essex now

Births Mar 1865 (>99%)
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BIGGS Robert Chapman W. Ham 4A 67
Chalker Robert W.Ham 4a 39
COTESWORTH Robert W Ham 4a 75
Craffar Robert W. Ham 4a 51
Finch Roberta Maria W. Ham 4a 44
Martin Robert W. Ham 4a 50
OWERS Robert William W. Ham 4A 40
PARKER Robert W. Ham 4A 55
Pope Robert Martin W. Ham 4a 36
PUFFETT Robert W. Ham 4A 60
Saunders Robert George W. Ham 4A 34
SELBY Robert W. Ham 4a 37
Shearing Robert W. Ham 4a 74

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Births Jun 1865 (>99%)
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Bruce Robert Golden W. Ham 4a 49
CHAMBERLAIN Robert John W. Ham 4A 2
Coward Robert W. Ham 4a 5
Elliott Robert Stephenson W. Ham 4a 10
Hosking Robert James W. Ham 4a 6
Ovenden Robert Edward W Ham 4a 14
Wright Robert Potter W. Ham 4a 54

As per Janey's advice:

1881

DAUBENEY, Robert Student Single M 16 1865 Private 1st Brigade Depot London Middlesex

Address: Knellar Hall, Twickenham
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1891

DAUBENEY, Robert Head Married M 25 1866 Sergt Drummer 1st Zusiliers London
DAUBENEY, Jane Wife Married F 21 1870 Gloucester Gloucestershire
DAUBENEY, Robert Son M 0 (5M) 1891 Woolwich Kent

Institution: Cambridge Barrack, Frances Street Woolwich
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1901 - He was on active service in South Africa
(Can't find Jane and family on census, but I know they had moved to Shotley Bridge in Northumberland by that time)
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1911

DAUBENEY, Robert Tait Head Married M 46 1865 Bank Porter Army Pensioner Stratford Essex
DAUBENEY, Jane Wife Married 21 years F 45 1866 Gloucester Newert
DAUBENEY, Robt Tait Son Single M 20 1891 Barman Kent Woolwick
DAUBENEY, Gertrude Alice Daughter Single F 18 1893 Clerk Kent Daved
DAUBENEY, Winifred May Daughter Single F 15 1896 Hants Portsmouth
DAUBENEY, Eveline Genevive Daughter F 11 1900 Northd Allendale
DAUBENEY, Yvonne Irene Daughter F 8 1903 Northd Hayden Bridge
DAUBENEY, Vera Agnes Daughter F 4 1907 Northd Newcastle

Address:
93 Hotspur St Newcastle-On-Tyne
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Marriages Jun 1889 (>99%)
Coldrick Jane Colchester 4a 670
Daubeney Robert Colchester 4a 670
Marriage 19 Jun at Colchester Registry Office - Robert gives father's name as Frederick Charles Daubeney soldier (deceased)
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Deaths Jun 1940
Daubeney Robert 74 Newcastle T. 10b 205
17 Jun at daughter Winnie's
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Sorry I'm late with this - just had a disaster!

Yes, that's my tree on Ancestry.

Janey - that's a different Robert on FMP.

A lady on Ancestry had contacted me in response to a similar posting saying that Robert Tait was the brother of her G-Grandfather Ernest, this was from her family history but we've found no hard proof.

This was Ernest in 1881:

Address: West Ham Union School, Low Leyton
DAUBNEY, Ernest Inmate Single M 11 1870 Scholar Leytonstone Essex

(Have his records from thereon)

On Ernest's marriage he gave his father's name as James Daubeney (deceased - no occupation).

What I do know is that there was a very large, well to do Daubeney family in London of very distinguished military bearing. I do not think my Robert had any legitimate (wish could do italics!) connection. I think the Robert Eleanor & Giles Frederick were theirs.

Thought your Robert married Jane and was a musician?

ja...x

1901 (Find My Past)
Jane Danbeney Head Married Female 33 1868 - Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
Robert Danbeney Son Single Male 10 1891 - Woolwich, Kent, England
Alice Danbeney Daughter Single Female 8 1893 - Dover, Kent, England
Winnifred Danbeney Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Eveline Danbeney Daughter Single Female 2 1899 - Northumberland, England
Street Ratcliffe Road
Town Haydon Bridge
Parish Haydon
County Northumberland
Registration district Hexham
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 4825
Folio 131
Page 9

Chris :)

So at least we're doing better than "London" for place of birth.

Military record says West Ham, 1911 says Stratford; fairly interchangeable.

Stratford is in Poplar reg dist, though. But nothing in Q1 and Q2 1865 looks more likely there for Robert-s.

I hav'nt posted census's just rubbish so far lol

ja...x

just making my mark for later


sylvia

I'll put my high-falutin Moncks up against your high-falutin Daubeneys. ;)

What's all this? -- "Janey - that's a different Robert on FMP."

jax checked the record and I assume it said wife Jane or something.

And West Ham certainly seems to be our stomping grounds, viz the record for brother Ernest you posted.


Now speaking of Ernests ... Ernest HILLs to be specific ... we have this stray fellow in 1871 ...

Name: Robert T Hill
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Boarder
Where born: London, England

Civil Parish: Kensington
County/Island: London
Registration district: Kensington

Grace T Treger 58 - principal of boarding school
Cecelia Treger 26
Mary Treger 23
Thomas Treger 22
James Tregear 18
Catharine M Downs 55
[excising several unrelated pupils]
Robert T Hill 7
Victoria J Hill 9
Janey Hill 3

Look! Janey Hill!

Births Sep 1861
HILL Victoria Jane Hackney 1b 343

> No birth of a Robert T Hill anytime around then. Could that surname be an error?

Looking at the staff and the staff in surrounding and what seem to be related households of pupils and staff, there are a lot of music teachers.

How do you like this guy??

Births Dec 1865
De Labert-Auche Robert Thomas W. Ham 4a 49

;)

He was 18 years and 9 months at time of enlistment at Woolwich, 22 may 1888
looks like borogh of New? so probably north Woolwich. Easy to get to though as foot tunnel and ferry over Thames.
He was a groom.

Okay, I'm confused. Jax gave us (minus the bumphy spacing)

First name(s): Robert
Last name: DAUBNEY
Calculated year of birth: 1865
Parish of birth: West Ham
Town of birth: West Ham
County of birth: Essex
Age at attestation: 14 years 4 months
Attestation date: 14 August 1879
Attestation corps: 1ST BRIGADE
Attestation soldier number: 2465

I don't think that in that era anyone enrolled at that age unless they were a musician. That is the story on my paternal grandfather -- drummer boy in Egypt at the age of 13 or some such.


LK gives us

He was 18 years and 9 months at time of enlistment at Woolwich
Fine, as long as we're editing ;) -- 22 may 1888 -- making him born 1869. That's rather different from other records.
And editing some more -- a groom in 1888 -- but our guy seems to have been musical?


MC -- what was his age when he married 19 June 1889 again?

This is very difficult to read but his father is David and he is married to Elizabeth Mathilda Hare in a register office in Lincoln.? Maybe there are 2 of them? He was in South Africa 1899

Before he married Jane his next of kin was a brother called Ernest who live in Forest Gate if you dont know the area its near West Ham or Stratford

ja...x

Yup, sounds like a different one. Where is MC??
Daubeney was very much a Lincolnshire name, from browsing GRO births etc.

jax has the right one, surely -- wife Jane, brother Ernest, right area, Essex. Why is MC saying nay?


............. Well, so far, Chris has found the family in 1901! ................