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Glynis
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12 Aug 2010 23:22 |
Hi everyone, I would be grateful for some help in tracing the birth record of Sarah Mecklenburgh born c.1841 in Purleigh / Witham, Essex. Father Matthias / Mathias / Mattias, Mother Elizabeth (maiden name unknown). I have found Sarah in censuses but am unable to find any birth / Baptism record for her. I know she married Thomas Rowland in 1864 and died in 1908. Thank you so much, Glynis.
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alviegal
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12 Aug 2010 23:31 |
For reference.
1851 census transcription details for: Bridge Street, Witham National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 1783 Folio: 156 Page: 19 Reg. District: Witham Sub District: Witham Parish: Witham Enum. District: 1A Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Bridge Street, Witham County: Essex Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born MECKLINGBURGH, Elizabeth Wife Married F 48 1803 Wife Of A Miller Bentley Suffolk MECKLINGBURGH, Samuel Son Unmarried M 20 1831 Miller Bocking Essex MECKLINGBURGH, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 12 1839 Scholar Pinleigh Essex MECKLINGBURGH, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 9 1842 Scholar Pinleigh Essex
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AnnCardiff
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12 Aug 2010 23:37 |
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Mathais MECKLENBURGH Head M Male 54 Steeple, Essex, England Fellmonger Labourer Amelia MECKLENBURGH Wife M Female 47 Witham, Essex, England Sarah MECKLENBURGH Daur Female 8 Witham, Essex, England Scholar
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Mill Lane Cottage Census Place Witham, Essex, England Family History Library Film 1341436 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1809 / 50 Page Number 27
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AnnCardiff
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12 Aug 2010 23:38 |
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Matthias MECKLENBURGH Head M Male 28 Witham, Essex, England Agr Labourer Elizabeth MECKLENBURGH Wife M Female 27 Tiptree, Essex, England Herbert MECKLENBURGH Son Male 5 Essex, Essex, England Charles ELEY Bro In Law Male 14 Tiptree, Essex, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Chipping Hill Census Place Witham, Essex, England Family History Library Film 1341436 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1809 / 78 Page Number 17
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patchem
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12 Aug 2010 23:39 |
Just for background: 1851 England Census Elizabeth Mecklingburgh Age: 48 Estimated birth year: abt 1803 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Bentley, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Witham Town: Witham County/Island: Essex Country: England Registration district: Witham Sub-registration district: Kelvedon ED, institution, or vessel: 1a , schedule number: 76 Elizabeth Mecklingburgh 48 Samuel Mecklingburgh 20 Mary Ann Mecklingburgh 12 Sarah Mecklingburgh 9 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1783; Folio: 156; Page: 19; GSU roll: 207432.
Mary Ann Mecklenburgh Year of Registration: 1838 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Maldon (1837-1972) County: Essex Volume: 12 Page: 131
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AnnCardiff
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12 Aug 2010 23:39 |
Matthias Mecklenburgh Pedigree Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: About 1853 Witham, Essex, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: Matthias John Mecklenburgh Family Mother: Helen
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AnnCardiff
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12 Aug 2010 23:39 |
MATTHIAS MECKLENBURGH Pedigree Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 10 MAR 1853 Christening: 16 SEP 1855 Witham, Essex, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: MATTHIAS MECKLENBURGH Family Mother: AMELIA
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AnnCardiff
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12 Aug 2010 23:40 |
MATTHIAS MECKLENBURGH Pedigree Male Family -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: AMELIA BAXTER Family Marriage: 05 NOV 1851 Witham, Essex, England Husband Age at Marriage: 25 Wife Age at Marriage: 20
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AnnCardiff
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12 Aug 2010 23:41 |
SARAH MECKLENBURGH Pedigree Female -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 20 NOV 1823 Christening: 27 APR 1828 Chelmsford, Essex, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: ALFRED MECKLENBURGH Family Mother: JANE SPENCER
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AnnCardiff
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12 Aug 2010 23:44 |
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Samuel MECKLENBURGH Head M Male 50 Bocking, Essex, England Corn Merchants Porter Emma MECKLENBURGH Wife M Female 48 Gt Oakley, Essex, England Corn Merchants Porter Wife
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Wants Road Census Place Maldon St Peter, Essex, England Family History Library Film 1341429 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1776 / 35 Page Number 27
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AnnCardiff
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12 Aug 2010 23:44 |
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John WOODWARD Patient M Male 42 St Osyth, Essex, England Mariner John PETTITT Patient U Male 14 Colchester, Essex, England Labourer Joshua Chas. DUNT Patient U Male 15 Colchester, Essex, England Scholar Richd. Henry WHALE Patient U Male 11 Norwich, Norfolk, England Scholar Perry JOHNNS Patient U Male 9 Plumstead, Essex, England Scholar Joseph COLLER Patient U Male 16 Gt Braxted, Essex, England Agricultural Labourer James BEARDWELL Patient M Male 30 Langham, Essex, England Agricultural Labourer Isaac LEECH Patient U Male 21 Langham, Essex, England Agricultural Labourer John DURRANT Patient U Male 30 Mistley, Essex, England Baker William GOODWIN Patient U Male 46 Fingringhoe, Essex, England Agricultural Labourer Frederick BUSH Patient U Male 14 Dovercourt, Essex, England Agricultural Labourer William UNWIN Patient W Male 42 Rivenhall, Essex, England Agricultural Labourer Alfred LEGGETT Patient M Male 39 West Bergholt, Essex, England Domestic Servt Coachman Robert SWANN Patient M Male 30 Colchester, Essex, England Cooper Samuel MECKLENBURGH Patient W Male 39 East Bergholt, Essex, England Miller Herbert GREEN Patient U Male 7 Kirby Le Soken, Essex, England Scholar Elijah ISBORN Patient U Male 13 Mistley, Essex, England Scholar Robert WADLEY Patient U Male 7 East Donyland, Essex, England Scholar Dennis DEAVES Patient M Male 30 Borley, Essex, England Wheelwright John HARRINGTON Patient W Male 67 Stoke By Nayland, Suffolk, England Labourer (Continued)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Institution "Essex & Colchester Hospital" Lexden Rd Census Place Colchester St Mary At Walls, Essex, England Family History Library Film 1341432 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1789 / 37 Page Number 8
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alviegal
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12 Aug 2010 23:45 |
1841 England Census about Matthias Micklenburgh Name: Matthias Micklenburgh [Matthias Mecklenburgh] Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1827 Gender: Male Where born: Essex, England Civil parish: Purleigh Hundred: Dengie County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Maldon Sub-registration district: Maldon Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Elizath Micklenburgh 35 Matthias Micklenburgh 14 Samuel Micklenburgh 11 Maria Micklenburgh 8 William Micklenburgh 6 Mary Ann Micklenburgh 3
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AnnCardiff
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12 Aug 2010 23:45 |
SAMUEL MECKLENBURGH Pedigree Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 26 FEB 1814 Christening: 10 APR 1814 East Bergholt, Suffolk, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JOHN MECKLENBURGH Family Mother: ELISABETH -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Glynis
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12 Aug 2010 23:46 |
It's a humdinger of a name for being misspelt, I know. Early census records are useful but that birth record c. 1841 is still elusive.
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AnnCardiff
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13 Aug 2010 00:14 |
well is anything that has been found of any use to you?
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JaneyCanuck
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13 Aug 2010 00:30 |
Who knows, eh, Ann o' GG? Glynis did say she'd found her in censuses, though. And you did go off on your usual hunt for things that look interesting but don't answer the question! ;)
You can't trace a birth record that doesn't exist. If it exists, it's in the GRO index. Searching for surname M*burgh and M*burg 1841 +/- 2 years turns up loads of Mecklenburghs and variants in Essex and elsewhere (Norfolk/Suffolk mainly), but no Sarah.
So her birth wasn't registered, or something else. Elizabeth and Matthias were old enough to have a child whose child she could have been, registered under another surname. Anything's possible. But there is no birth record. So no one will find it.
There might be a baptism record. For that, you'd have to access the appropriate parish records.
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Glynis
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13 Aug 2010 00:36 |
Of course, Ann. Many little snippets appear through others doing the various searches through different sources. Your searches sent me scurrying to check the references and I am very appreciative of everyone's efforts. My main search though, as I said, is still the birth of Sarah 1841 I am puzzled why I cannot find a birth record for Sarah and it is always finding that elusive record that gives ultimate satisfaction. Thank you everyone so far.
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Glynis
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13 Aug 2010 00:43 |
Thank you JaneyCanuck, You probably speak the truth, but I thought it worth seeing if anyone else could find what I had failed to find myself. Also, different people have subscriptions with different websites so you never know whether a different search will turn up a clue.
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JaneyCanuck
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13 Aug 2010 00:45 |
... Unless FreeBMD somehow skipped it in the transcribing.
You can go there or to Ancestry and browse the pages of the GRO index. I've done it, some years ago, when the period I wanted wasn't transcribed.
If you search at Ancestry for any surname Meck* in 1842, you'll find some for each quarter of the year. Go to the image and see whether there's a Sarah who didn't get transcribed. Do the same for 1841 and 1842. Do the same for Mick*.
If there's no Sarah Meck* in any quarter of 1841, 1842, 1843, then either her birth wasn't registered or it was registered in another surname. Or the name got badly mistranscribed into the GRO index and came out as something other than Mick* or Meck*.
Again: birth registrations are found in only one place, the GRO index. If it isn't there, it isn't elusive, it isn't there.
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Glynis
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13 Aug 2010 00:50 |
Thanks JaneyCanuck, Will give your idea a go....maybe tomorrow when I am not falling asleep at my computer after a long day. I am grateful for the advice about searches. Glynis.
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