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21 Aug 2011 05:55 |
I have finally located Alfred Gooch born 2nd May 1893 - well I am pretty sure its him! The jigsaw pcs are staring to fit the puzzle. On the 1911 census he is showing as on a vessel "Success"its a Thames barge (Stumpy)40 tons -his skipper/master is Thomas J.Ambrose from Grays Essex.The vessel was owned by the Cement works- Thomas Bevan Northfleet near Gravesend Kent - the site is now owned by the Blue circle cement.What I am now trying to find out what happened to Alfred afer this What I am now trying to find out - what happened to Alfred after this - the vessel Montcalm from New Brunsiwck Canada arrived in Liverpool on the 25th dec 1927 Alfred was on board -offical number 145903 was that him?
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21 Aug 2011 08:38 |
The intended place of address for Alfred in UK says, 55 (35?) John Williamson St. South Shields, Durham. Sailor, but not sure where you are seeing that number?...
Chris :) (image says 23rd Dec)
Not sure of below, adding an idea suggestion for Alfred above?...
Marriages Sep 1924 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Burn Marion Gooch S.Shields 10a 1691 Gooch Alfred Burn S.Shields 10a 1691
1911 BURN, James S Head Married M 52 1859 Steam Tugboat Man South Shields of Durham BURN, Mary Ann Wife Married 29 years F 45 1866 South Shields of Durham BURN, James S Son Single M 20 1891 Gas Works Clerk South Shields of Durham BURN, John E Son Single M 22 1889 House Painter South Shields of Durham BURN, Marion Daughter Single F 18 1893 Spinster South Shields of Durham RG number: RG14 Piece: 30300 Reference: RG14PN30300 RG78PN1745B RD556 SD1 ED41 SN163 Registration District: South Shields Sub District: South Shields Enumeration District: 41 Parish: South Shields Address: 38 Saville Street South Shields County: Durham (says 6 children born, 5 living, 1 died. James Shepherd Burn given as signature)
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6 Sep 2011 03:56 |
Thanks for the information -waiting on a marriage cert. Looking for Henry S.Gooch - he was married to unknow Eliza his children as follows.
Henry Gooch born 1883 Islington Ellen Gooch born 1887 Islington William Gooch born 1890 Islington Any information on whom they married & and did they have any children at all. Many thanks
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6 Sep 2011 06:46 |
is this him ?
1891
GOOCH, ? Head Married M 35 1856 Brass Turner Islington (Henry on original\) London VIEW GOOCH, Eliza Wife Married F 36 1855 Aspeden Hertfordshire VIEW GOOCH, Henry Son M 8 1883 Islington London VIEW GOOCH, Ellen Daughter F 4 1887 Islington London VIEW GOOCH, William Son M 0 (9M) 1891 Islington London VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG12 Piece: 165 Folio: 93 Page: 17 Registration District: Islington Sub District: Islington South-East Enumeration District: 8 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Matthews Civil Parish: Islington Municipal Borough: Address: 14, Queensbury Street, Islington, London County: London
looks like he was Henry John, not Henry S ??
1901
GOOCH, Henry John Head Married M 42 1859 Brass Finisher Islington London VIEW GOOCH, Lizzie Wife Married F 41 1860 Buntingford Hertfordshire VIEW GOOCH, Henry John Son Single M 19 1882 Greengrocers Porter Islington London VIEW GOOCH, Ellen Daughter F 15 1886 Servant Domestic Islington London VIEW GOOCH, Maud Daughter F 8 1893 Islington London VIEW GOOCH, William Son M 12 1889 Islington London VIEW GOOCH, Arthur Son M 5 1896 Islington London VIEW GOOCH, Albert Son M 3 1898 Islington London VIEW GOOCH, Fred Son M 0 (3 MOS) 1901 Islington London VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG13 Piece: 251 Folio: 53 Page: 43 Registration District: Holborn Sub District: Amwell Enumeration District: 2 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Silas Civil Parish: Clerkenwell Municipal Borough: Address: 12, Godson Street, Clerkenwell County: London
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6 Sep 2011 07:00 |
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GOOCH, Henry John Head Married M 54 1857 Engineers Brass Finisher London Islington VIEW GOOCH, Eliszebth Wife Married 31 years F 55 1856 London Islington VIEW GOOCH, William Son Single M 21 1890 Carmen London Islington VIEW GOOCH, Arthur Son Single M 17 1894 Van Guard London Islington VIEW GOOCH, Albert Son Single M 13 1898 School London Islington VIEW GOOCH, Frerderick Son Single M 11 1900 School London Islington VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 1217 Reference: RG14PN1217 RG78PN42 RD14 SD2 ED2 SN204 Registration District: Holborn Sub District: Clerkenwell Enumeration District: 2 Parish: St James and St John Clerkenwell Address: 12 Godson St Clerkenwell N County: London 7 children born, 7 still living
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7 Sep 2011 05:12 |
Hi and many thanks for that information greatly appreciated will take a look at it all.
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27 Sep 2011 09:30 |
Just bringing this back as PM received from Margery, 1924 Marriage Cert. arrived, Father of Alfred given as, Alfred Gooch, Law Writer.
(ties in with 1891 posted earlier by LK)
1891 GOOCH, Alfred Head Married M 26 1865 Law Writer London GOOCH, Caroline Wife Married F 33 1858 Bristol Gloucestershire WOLF, Albert Stepson M 12 1879 Scholar London WOLF, Rose Stepdaughter F 10 1881 Scholar London GOOCH, Annie Daughter F 0 (7M) 1891 London RG number: RG12 Piece: 149 Folio: 59 Page: 42 Registration District: Islington Sub District: Upper Holloway Enumeration District: 57 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Paul Civil Parish: Islington Municipal Borough: Address: 31, Alexander Road, Islington, London County: London
Name: Annie Ada Florence Gooch Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Spouse Name: William Charles Ridge Spouse Age: 23 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1915 Parish: St Mary Magdalene, Holloway Road County: London Borough: Islington Father Name: Alfred Gooch (Law Writer) Spouse Father Name: Joseph Ridge
(1911, Annie Ada Florence Gooch, Boarder, Laundry Machinist, Islington)
Can't see the Alfreds 1901...
(not sure what other info. you have?)...
1871 GOOCH, William F(should be H) Head M 44 1827 Middlesex (Foreman, Brass Finisher) GOOCH, Ann Wife F 46 1825 Oxfordshire GOOCH, Stephen Son M 18 1853 Middlesex GOOCH, Henry Son M 14 1857 Middlesex GOOCH, Emma Daughter F 12 1859 Middlesex GOOCH, Minnie Daughter F 10 1861 Middlesex GOOCH, John Son M 7 1864 Middlesex GOOCH, Alfred Son M 5 1866 Middlesex RG number: RG10 Piece: 258 Folio: 89 Page: 49 Registration District: Islington Sub District: Islington, West Enumeration District: 24 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Islington Municipal Borough: Finsbury Address: Buckingham Street, Islington, Finsbury County: London, Middlesex
Name: Alfred Gooch (Law Writer) Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Spouse Name: Caroline Wolf (Widow) Spouse Age: 24 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 10 Nov 1885 Parish: St Thomas, Islington County: Middlesex Borough: Islington Father Name: William Henry Gooch (Brass Finisher) Spouse Father Name: William Edward Dight
Name: Caroline Dight Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Spouse Name: Albert John Barnabas Wolf (Warehouseman) Spouse Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 25 Mar 1878 Parish: St James, Clerkenwell County: Middlesex Borough: Islington Father Name: Wm Edward Glamith Dight (Foreman) Spouse Father Name: George Wolf (Baker)
Alfreds second Marriage in 1908 is posted earlier, for Burial details of Caroline and possibly others, use link below...
http://www.deceasedonline.com/
Who links you to this family?...
Chris :)
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28 Sep 2011 06:11 |
Chris - Alfred Gooch is my Fathers brother his sister was Annie Gooch my Father being Herbert Edward Gooch who came out to NZ to live. Alfreds Father married Caroline Dight - his name also being Alfred with no second name - my name being Margery Gooch (now Crivello)hopefully I can sus out any children from Alfred and Marions marriage - or other there deaths. Many thanks Chris for your help.
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28 Sep 2011 08:02 |
Births Mar 1897 (>99% Gooch Herbert Edward Islington 1b 390
(aah!, same year as Caroline's death, so Herbert is missing 1901 too!)
Chris :)
(this might be father Alfred?)
Deaths Mar 1931 (>99%) Gooch Alfred 65 Islington 1b 457
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28 Sep 2011 08:38 |
Merchant Navy Seamen 1918-1941 (Find My Past) Last name: GOOCH First names: Alfred Age: Day of birth: 2 Month of birth: May Year of birth: 1893 Place of birth: Upper Holloway County/country of birth: Middlesex Card type: CR10 Discharge number: Identity certificate no.: 313028 Series: BT350 Date range: 1918-1921
(complete with photo!)
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1 Oct 2011 03:28 |
Thanks Chris - now I just need to see when he died - also Marion -looks like there may be no children from the marriage?
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1 Oct 2011 08:48 |
Not a lot of help Margery, but the below seem to be the nearest...
Births Sep 1891 (>99%) (if this is her?) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Burn Marion S. Shields 10a 786
Name: GOOCH, Marian Registration District: Help Nottingham County: Nottinghamshire Year of Registration: 1961 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at death: 69 Volume No: 3C Page No: 330
Name: GOOCH, Alfred Registration District: Help Lothingland County: Suffolk Year of Registration: 1941 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at death: 48 Volume No: 4A Page No: 2412
Name: GOOCH, Alfred Registration District: Help Nottingham County: Nottinghamshire Year of Registration: 1953 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at death: 59 Volume No: 3C Page No: 568 Chris :)
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4 Oct 2011 03:27 |
Thanks Chris - shall order a death cert for Marian not to sure on Alfred yet - what a jigsaw puzzle!
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4 Oct 2011 03:27 |
Thanks Chris - shall order a death cert for Marian not to sure on Alfred yet - what a jigsaw puzzle!
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8 Oct 2011 04:52 |
Hi Chris - wondering if theres any information on the Burns - Marian had brothers - John Burn born 1889 - James S.born 1891 - William Burn and John E.Burn all from South Shields Durham - looking to see if they got married and had a family - if so I could track down any children for Marian and Alfred Gooch - that way. Any help greatly appreciated - thanks Marge
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8 Oct 2011 09:43 |
1891 BURN, James S Head Married M 38 1853 Waterman South Shields Co Durham BURN, Mary A Wife Married F 33 1858 Kirkwall SANDERS, David Father In Law Widower M 63 1828 Engineer Infirm Kirkwall SANDERS, John D Brother In Law Single M 24 1867 Engineer South Shields Co Durham BURN, Wm Hope Son M 8 1883 Scholar South Shields Co Durham BURN, David Sanders Son M 6 1885 Scholar South Shields Co Durham BURN, John Edwin Son M 4 1887 South Shields Co Durham BURN, James S Son M 2 1889 South Shields Co Durham BURN, Winifred A Daughter F 0 (10M) 1891 (born Sept. qtr. 1890) South Shields Co Durham Piece: 4155 Folio: 49 Page: 35 Registration District: South Shields Civil Parish: Westoe Municipal Borough: South Shields Address: 58, Catherine Street, Westoe, South Shields County: Durham
1901 BURN, James S Head Married M 48 1853 River Waterman So Shields Durham BURN, Mary A Wife Married F 43 1858 Engine Fitter (Apprent) Scotland BURN, William H Son Single M 18 1883 River Waterman (Apprent) So Shields Durham BURN, David S Son Single M 16 1885 So Shields Durham BURN, John E Son Single M 14 1887 So Shields Durham BURN, James S Son Single M 12 1889 So Shields Durham BURN, Marion Daughter Single F 9 1892 So Shields Durham Piece: 4729 Folio: 94 Page: 17 Registration District: South Shields Civil Parish: South Shields Municipal Borough: Address: 58, Catherine Street, South Shields County: Durham
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
(any Marriages etc. could be on above link, also, looking in Search Trees at top of page, might have other members researching the family, quite a lot of names that might match up, also looking on google can be surprising too!)
Chris :)
Births Mar 1853 (>99%) Burn James Shepherd S. Shields 10a 355
Marriages Dec 1876 (>99% Burns James Shepherd S. Shields 10a 897 Saunders Mary Ann S. Shields 10a 897
Births Mar 1889 (>99) (Son?) Burn James Shepherd S. Shields 10a 685
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31 Oct 2011 02:41 |
Thanks Chris - yes thats the right Marian Gooch have the death cert now and Alfreds I am waiting for it to arrive. The only missing link now is to find any Gooch children they may have had - I may be able to track any children down through the Burns family which I am working on now.
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31 Oct 2011 14:02 |
If you search for any children on Freebmd...there are none that I can see, which I think you already know
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