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Am not seeing a 4th Greenwood birth with mmn Bowler between Emma's marriage and the 1911 census, to account for the 3rd death, so just wonder about this one , born pre marriage??

BOWLER, ELIZABETH ANNIE - Order
GRO Reference: 1902 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 392

And death ??
Last name First name Born Died Event Record set Location
BOWLER ELIZABETH ANN 1903 1905 1905 Nottingham,

Hi Chris
The Newspaper headlines Base Ingratitude
Was the Artical on John/Jack Bowler born 1886 Nottingham
I wonder where he was on 1911 Census Please
Olive

Hi
And wow to all the info you have found me
Thankyou
Olive

No, was Thos. Wm. Bowler, attacked his Mother.

BOWLER, THOMAS WILLIAM MALBORN
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in DERBY Volume 07B Page 472

Chris :)

(as posted earlier, below, his Birthdate could help with 1939 if about, you need Birth Cert., unless you already have)

greyghost Report 29 Dec 2016 15:57

Don't know if you ever found Clara's maiden name but her it is from the new GRO index


Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
BOWLER, JOHN MOLBURN Order
GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 380

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So this looks as though it's the marriage of John and Clara -

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1874 (>99%)
BOLTON Hannah Derby 7b 817 Scan available - click to view
Bowler Thomas Derby 7b 817 Scan available - click to view
Malborn Clara Derby 7b 817 Scan available - click to view
Wildbore John Derby 7b 817 Scan available - click to view


Baptism
County Nottinghamshire
Place (link for place information) Sneinton
Church name St Mathias
Register type Unspecified
Baptism date 09 Sep 1891
Person forename John
Person sex M
Person abode 35 Windmill La
Father forename Thomas
Father surname BOWLER
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Clara

http://www.freereg.org.uk/


Edits (google search brings below?)

(John Bowler was the son of Thomas Bowler and Clara Pollard who married in the Loughborough area in 1879.)

http://www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/rollofhonour/People/Details/11426

(and you had below?)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1246968?page=0


30 September 1918 - Nottingham Evening Post - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire

(above is article relating to Jack Bowler, from Notts. County Council link)


UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 (Ancestry)

(also on above)

Hi Chris
Any idea where John/ Jack Bowler was as we know he was killed WW1 1918

Was he on 1911 Census some where

I will go to the Nottm Library for the News Paper articals as the one from Genes reunited are small print

He married Adeliza Whitticker?
When John / Jack Bowler was killed
Adeliza. Married G Worthington

Thankyou again
Olive

Hi Chris
Yes I found the Goggle item by chance the other day that's why I have started looking agian
I entered John / Jack Bowler and the info came up but a different Mothers name
Havnt a clue where the info has come from
Olive

Looks like Nottinghamshire County Council have been researching names on War Memorials, perhaps...(you could always contact them)

Chris :)

And can't leave this 'Thread' without paying respects to Jonesey, gone but not forgotten, a sad loss to GR.

How sad

Like you say gone but not forgotten

Olive

Hi
Happy New Year to every one

I have been reading through The Bowler Family and notice that

Horace James Bowler born 1891 Nottingham served in The Sherwood Foresters as a Private
I have tried to find him but no Luck
I wonder I wonder if anyone could help me Please
Olive
:-)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/british-army-medal-index-cards-1914-1920/

(if you can see him on above, you can then use that Army Number for reference when searching on Ancestry, Find My Past, Genes)

Chris :)

Hi Chris
The latest on the Bowler Family

I have been into Nottingham Library and found the 3 Articals in the Nottingham Evening Post !!!Interesting reading

Jack Bowlers WW1 Army Records which states his Mother s name Clara Bowler and a list of his Sister and Brothers and there addresses

It seams that Frederick Bowler born 1883 Derby was serving in WW1
IT would be nice if I could find his Records

Also I have looked for Jack Bowler 1911 Census station over seas but no luck

Bye for now
Olive

Use that link I posted Olive...(as said, if you see any that look likely, use the Army Number for searching)

Derbyshire Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Frederic
Last name Bowler
Birth date 5 Jan 1883
Baptism year 1883
Baptism day 31
Baptism month Jan
Place Derby St Paul
Parents Tom & Clara
Father's occupation Groom
Residence 4 Bennetts Yard
County Derbyshire


BOWLER, FREDERICK (MALBORN)
GRO Reference: 1883 M Quarter in DERBY Volume 07B Page 569


(seems things not good for Thomas/Clara back then!)

14 March 1884 - Derbyshire Advertiser and Journal - Derby, Derbyshire

Thomas Bowler, stableman, was charged with violently assaulting Clara Bowler, his wife, on the 8th March.—The parties live at the back of 18. York-street, and complainant stated that her husband came home, worse for liquor...


(another about also!)

Births Jun 1883 (>99%)
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Bowler Frederick Mansfield 7b 95


BAWLER, FREDERICK (ROOPER)
GRO Reference: 1883 J Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 95

(he Married 1906 Basford, Sarah Ann Knowles)


http://www.belperinwartime.org/a-b.html?var1=http://www.belperinwartime.org/Memorial-AB.php?id=34

(to rule out the War Death for 1916, age 26)

Chris :)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1364030

(I see Horace was found then!, that 1911 is also posted on here)


Who do you subscribe to?. Ancestry, Find My Past or Genes, they all have Military.

??

Jack Bowler

in the 1911 England Census


Name: Jack Bowler

Age in 1911: 21

Estimated birth year: abt 1890

Birth Place: Thorneywood Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

County/Island: Military

Country: England

Military Unit: 1st K O Y L I

Registration District Number: 641

ED, institution, or vessel: China and Hong Kong

Piece: 34995


http://tinyurl.com/hh776hx

"Sergeant Bowler enlisted at Nottingham and became a professional soldier. At the time of the 1911 census he was a Private serving with the 1st Bn. [King’s Own] Yorkshire Light Infantry, based in Hong Kong"

Hi
I have just found Jack Bowler on 1911 Census on Genes Reunited and printed it off

Fancy another News Paper artical for Thomas Bowler and his wife Clara Bowler
wonder how many more
Shame its not Nottingham News Paper then i could get a copy

I think Frederick Bower born 1883 was serving in Notts and Derbys Riffel WW1
Carnt quite make it out Jack Bowler WW1 records 1907 has stated all his family except for his Father Thomas Bowler ??

Bye for now
Olive

Hi Chris
Have found the News Paper Artical 14 th March 1884 Thomas Bowler and his wife Clara
Interesting reading it sounds as though it wasn't the first time !!

The Marriage of Frederick Bowler 1883 to Lizzie Orrill 1915 Nottingham
Olive

Hi
I wonder if you could find me the 1911 census for Adeliza Whittaker born 1890 Nottingham please

Adeliza Whittaker married John Bowler Nottingham

Thankyou
Olive

As her Sister Mabel on 1901 has Hill for Mother Maiden name, Birth 1896, would say this is Adeliza below...

Chris :)

1911 (Find My Past)
Annie Hill Head Single Female Lace Jennier 30 1881 Nottingham
Arthur Hill Brother Single Male Steel Bar Maker 29 1882 Nottingham
Addie Whittaker Niece Single Female Dresser Steel 20 1891 Nottingham (Presser Steel Cycle Works on image)
Address 13 Cur Lane Nottingham
Parish Nottingham
Census reference RG14 PN20542 RG78 PN1230 RD430 SD3 ED2 SN154


Baptism
County Nottinghamshire
Place Nottingham
Church name St Ann
Register type Unspecified
Baptism date 25 Aug 1891
Birth date 09 Dec 1890
Person forename Adeliza
Person abode 85 Long Hedge Lane
Father forename Joseph
Father surname WHITTAKER
Father occupation Carriage washer
Mother forename Elizabeth


1901 (Find My Past)
Joseph Whittaker Head Widower Male 30 1871 Window Blind Maker Nottinghamshire, England
Adeliza Whittaker Daughter - Female 10 1891 - Nottinghamshire, England
Lily Whittaker Daughter - Female 6 1895 - Nottinghamshire, England
Mabel Whittaker Daughter - Female 5 1896 - Nottinghamshire, England
Street Henry Street Newcastle Place
Parish Nottingham
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 3179
Folio 22
Page 35


1891
Joseph Whittaker Head Married Male 21 1870 Venetian And Wire Blind Maker Sneinton, Nottinghamshire, England
Elizabeth Whittaker Wife Married Female 20 1871 - Sneinton, Nottinghamshire, England
Adeliza Whittaker Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Sneinton, Nottinghamshire, England
Street Long Hedge Lane
Town Nottingham
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 2698
Folio 58
Page 3


Baptism
County Nottinghamshire
Place (Sneinton)
Church name St Stephen
Register type Unspecified
Baptism date 02 Dec 1872
Person forename Joseph
Person sex M
Person abode Dennett Terr
Father forename George
Father surname WHITTAKER
Father occupation Painter
Mother forename Charlotte


Deaths Mar 1901 (>99%)
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Whittaker Elizabeth 29 Nottingham 7b 200

(perhaps just before Census taken 31st March)


24 September 1900 - Nottingham Evening Post - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire

THIS DAY'S POLICE NEWS.
Maintenance Order
Joseph Whittaker. window blind maker, now in Bagthorpe Goal, was summoned for deserting his wife, Elizabeth Whittaker, 17, Fyne-street, Nottingham. Mr. H. B. Clayton appeared for the defendant, and offered 8s. a week, which complainant ultimately accepted.

Thankyou so much
I am putting all the Thomas Bowler and Clara Malibine together
Thomas Father is Frederick Bowler Clara s Father is Thomas it is stated on the Marriage 1874 Derby

Just need 2 births of thier children Elizabeth and Louise

Also The Army Papers for Horace James Bowler have quite a lot of info , with the help of of all of you And The Nottingham Library ,Also what I have found
Thankyou
Olive

Hi Chris
Trying to get my head around the 1911 Census

Elizabeth Hill was Adeliza Whittaker Mother

Was Annie Hill 1881 and Arthur Hill 1880 her sister and brother

To Elizabeth Hill
Olive

Wow another piece of interesting news
Joseph Whittaker The days Police News 1900
Olive