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Rebecca

Rebecca Report 31 Jul 2010 22:04

thankyou i will do

Flick

Flick Report 31 Jul 2010 21:47

Baptism: 19 Jun 1840 St James, Brindle, Lancashire, England
Stephen Knowles - Son of Mary Knowles
Abode: Brindle
Occupation: Widow
Baptised by: Charles Edwd Kendal Rector
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1844, Page 184, Entry 1472
Source: LDS Film 1849648

From Lancs OPC

The fact that there is no reference to the father would imply that it wasn't Mary's late husband

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 31 Jul 2010 18:31

Have pmed you in reply to yours, but didn't find a baptism online for Joseph, Thomas or Mary Knowles jr.

I think you should do as Somerset girl suggested and send for and see what's on Stephen's birth cert - at the very least you'll get Mary's maiden name and can try tracing her line further back.

My feeling is that Stephen may not have been the child of Mary's late husband, and born too late to be passed off as such. Shame the 1841 didn't give marital status.

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 31 Jul 2010 18:20

ok thankyou i might go and have a look

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 31 Jul 2010 17:54

you found stephens baptism earlier was his brother josephs recorded him being the oldest his father may be on that???

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 31 Jul 2010 15:07

I wont be able to find a marriage record for them either because they got married before 1837

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 31 Jul 2010 14:16

thankyou for looking that up for me!! what does IGI stand for??

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 31 Jul 2010 13:55

The IGI has the following extracted baptism for Stephen Knowles:

19 JUN 1840 Brindle, Lancashire, England

Parents given as Mary Mrs Knowles, so it looked like either he was was born after his father died, or his father died shortly after Stephen's birth.

Or Mary was a widow, and the father unknown, as no father's name is given.

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 31 Jul 2010 13:51

thankyou very much for that

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 31 Jul 2010 13:50

Unfortunately Mary is without a spouse in 1841 as well:

Name: Mary Knowles
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Gender: Female

Civil parish: Brindle
Hundred: Leyland
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Chorley
Sub-registration district: Brindle
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

Mary Knowles 40 cotton weaver
Joseph Knowles 7
Thomas Knowles 6
Mary Knowles 5
Stephen Knowles

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 31 Jul 2010 13:45

Name: Stephen Knowles
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Brindle, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Preston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Preston
ED, institution, or vessel: 2jj
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 229

Household Members: Name Age

Mary Knowles head, widow, charwoman 49 c1802 Bradford, Yorkshire, England

Joseph Knowles 17 son, c1834 Astley Bridge, Lancashire, England

Thomas Knowles 16 son, c1835 Astley Bridge, Lancashire, England.

>>>Stephen Knowles 10 son, c1841 Brindle, Lancashire, England

Agnes Pickup 24 , lodger

Sarah Cronshaw 23 lodger

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 31 Jul 2010 12:39

Please can someone look up Stephen Knowles born 1841 brindle, lancashire on the 1851 census, i would like to know his parents names nd where they where born thankyou

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 30 Jul 2010 22:43

Sorry does it say where Stephen Knowles (Father) was born??

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 30 Jul 2010 22:36

Thankyou!!!!!!!!

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 30 Jul 2010 22:36

thankyou very much sorry for asking so many question but does it say what realtion to the family the Hone's are???

Flick

Flick Report 30 Jul 2010 22:34

Yes

The Hones are Joseph's sister, and her husband and their daughter

"Corporal" is George Hone's rank, in the 1st Battalion, Royal Sussex Regiment. He was born in Brighton

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 30 Jul 2010 22:31

thankyou Flick
Stephen Knowles 52 FATHER
Carparal George Hone 23
Mary A Hone 19
Florence Hone 8/12

does this mean Joseph knowles father was living with them??

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 30 Jul 2010 22:27

Sorry i forgot to say thankyou for the above the information is correct but didnt realise that Sarah re married thankyou Somerset girl!!

Flick

Flick Report 30 Jul 2010 22:26

Name: Sarah E Knowles
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Preston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Knowles 28 b. Preston
Sarah E Knowles 27
Elizabeth E Knowles 8
Stephen Knowles 6
Mary A Knowles 2
Stephen Knowles 52 FATHER
Carparal George Hone 23
Mary A Hone 19
Florence Hone 8/12


Flick

Flick Report 30 Jul 2010 22:23

How about a comment on the info posted by Somersetgirl???