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This man was born Feb 22nd.

Name: Henry C Harding
Death Registration Month/Year: 1946<<(March quarter
Age at death (estimated): 64
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 1b
Page: 233

Sparky friends grandad who never married his nan,but they lived in sin for years til his death.


This is Sparkys mother, born in 1929,but not registered til 1959 !


Name: Barbara R Harding
Mother's Maiden Surname: Harding
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1959
Registration district: Pancras
Registration county: Greater London, Middlesex
Volume Number: 5d
Page Number: 552

And sister

Name: Ruby E Harding
Mother's Maiden Surname: Harding
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1959
Registration district: Pancras
Registration county: Greater London, Middlesex
Volume Number: 5d
Page Number: 552

Births Mar 1926
Harding Ruby E Harding Pancras 5d See S'59



Name: Barbara R Harding
Mother's Maiden Surname: Harding
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1929
Registration district: Pancras
Volume Number: 5d
Page Number: S'59

This is Nora on 1911
HUNT, Fredrick Head Married
22 years M 58 1853 Chair Turner Radnage Bucks
HUNT, Ellen Wife Married F 58 1853 North End Bucks
HUNT, Nora Daughter F 14 1897 Stokenchurch Bucks

Registration District:
Wycombe Sub District:
Stokenchurch Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
Stokenchurch

Address:
Church Street Stokenchurch County:
Buckinghamshire

Nora had 2 boys (father unknown) before having Ruby and Barbara,and was made to leave the family home after the 2nd,and she then had the boys "adopted" out(names not known to me) and only uncovered about them after Nora was dead.
It is believed that she may have met Henry anytime between 1916 and 1928 !
She ended up in Pancras area of London,thats all I know.

Anything is possible with this family.
One of them must surely have been married elsewhere I say ,or why not get married..?
Sparky tells me so much in the trying to find his grandads birth that I get lost,so if this looks like waffle,sorry.

She used the name Harding as her maiden name to reg the girls as Henry was dead and she wanted them registered as Harding and not Hunt.
Thats what he tells me.
He is searching for all his documents again now,but they have been tidied away by partner when he was in hosp,and cant be found.He is hopping mad at her so I shant bother him again about them for a while..

There I am, tidying up after folk and this flippin' thread keeps popping up ;))


Just thought I would nudge to get the adrenalin goin'


hahahahaha






Slap.

No dont delete it Renes.It may turn out right one day,you never know..

For Reference 1880 Census USA

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Father's
Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
John GODFREY Self M Male W 33 NY Coach Driver IRE IRE
Mary GODFREY Wife M Female W 30 NY Keeps House CAN NY
Elizabeth GODFREY Dau S Female W 13 NY Cash Girl NY NY
Frank GODFREY Son S Male W 11 NY Attends School NY NY
Mary GODFREY Dau S Female W 5 NY NY NY
John GODFREY Son S Male W 3 NY NY NY
Charles GODFREY Son S Male W 2 NY NY NY

Source Information:
Census Place 22nd Ward, District 21, New York, New York (Manhattan),
New York City-Greater, New York
Family History Library Film 1254889
NA Film Number T9-0889
Page Number 359B

Oh I see now Fans

I muddled up who was born where ---- not used to looking at USA census ------

Need mases of more practise

Shall I delete it

No I hadnt looked at anything other than the one you found on 1880 census Renes,I was too tired and Jaded from the day before.Takes longer to recover when you are not a teenager anymore.

The marriage is a good possibility although I will have to point out that on the census of 1880 that you found it says John Godfrey was born in NY and his parents were born in Ireland.
It also says Mary was born in NY also and her Father born Canada and her mother in NY.
But I am certainly not dismissing it.

John Godfrey
 
Birth: Lifrom, , , Ireland
Christening:
Marriage: 31 AUG 1869 Manhattan, New York, New York
Death:
Burial:

Father: Robert Godfrey

Mother: Marg...t Nill...  

Mary Bowie

 
Birth: Montreal, Ile De Montreal, Quebec
Christening:
Marriage: 31 AUG 1869 Manhattan, New York, New York 

Father: Edies... Bowie
Mother: Mary R...  



Expect you have looked at this - but Mary was born in Canada - and John Ireland - any good

How did I miss that one?

Thank you Renes...Off to investigate

Edits.

Oooooo AND hes a Coach Driver...Oh well done Renes..Thank you..

Name: Frank Godfrey
Residence: New York,
Birthdate: 1869
Birthplace: New York,
Father's Name: John Godfrey
Father's Birthplace: New York,
Mother's Name: Mary Godfrey
Mother's Birthplace: New York,
Age (Expanded): 11 years
Occupation: Attends School
Collection: United States Census, 1880

I know this is not Francis but another Godfrey born in New York

1861 Census GODFREY, Charles
Address: Hadley, Enfield

GODFREY, Charles Lodger M 10 1851 Drover
New York

the original gives his age as 10 ¿ ----- working young

what is the fascination with New York and Godfreys

About 1870/2 and both census I have him on say New York USA..
Marriage cert in 1899 says his father was..John Godfrey..Coachman (deceased)

Fans

Can you clarify yob please and we are looking for New York U S of A ( unsure what New York F S means )

Irene

1901 brought to fore for ref.

GODFREY, Francis Head Married M 29 1872 Carman Paper Trade
New York F S
GODFREY, Lily Wife Married F 21 1880
Aldershot
Hampshire
GODFREY, Lily Daughter Single F 0 (11 MOS) 1901
Westminster
London

Registration District:
St George Hanover Square Sub District:
St Margaret and St John Enumeration District:
31 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Andrew

Civil Parish:
St Margaret and St John Municipal Borough:
Address:
3, Willow Street, St Margaret And St John County:
London

Marriage cert in 1899 says Francis is a Potman/Barman and his father is ...John Godfrey ..Coachman.(deceased)


I have him on 1911,still born New York but transcribed age incorrectly as on the image he is def 10 yrs younger that they have transcribed him as born 1862,Lily (snr)has died and 2 of the children are missing ,Evan knows where on 1911, as I nor many others can find the one I have for sure who was my starting point as she was Sparky friends Gran..
I would like to see Francis on any earlier census and please dont go into Lily Godfrey ,she is a nightmare and was not a Greenleaf as she has on the marriage cert but was "adopted".

On the daughters birth cert it has Francis Godfrey..Newpaper packer.But on her marriage she has Daniel Godfrey..printer....just to confuse things.
And yes I am CERTAIN that I have the correct marriage for Gladys Priscilla and her birth..
Maybe she was not brought up by her father and thought his name was Daniel,although one of the witnesses on her marriage was from her mothers side and I would have thought may have known?But maybe did not want to correct her...

Certainly does in my case.;)

Always tick variants with funny sounding names,they are rarely "speled corect."

Ah well....I did the official site thingey but didn't think about ticking variants etc.

As my mother use to say....."Your kindness outweighs your beauty"........Thanks. x.

How do you mean ..it didnt show anything?


I just put in Wilhelmina Moody.
Ticked variants on first name only.
Didnt add a birth year
And only that one comes up.

On FMP,not the official site thingy.

A very humble thank you to my friends.

Fans....I did have a look at the 1911 yesterday but it didn't show anything and I have had success on there before. What did you do - I need to learn.

Two Public family trees on ancestry have Leopold ... but nothing more than his birth and parentage.




sylvia

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1901 Census

Name: Leopold Moody
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Moody
Mother's Name: Mary A Moody
Gender: Male
Where born: West Hartlepool, Durham, England

Civil parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Chad
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead

George Moody 55 b.ca 1846, Ferryhill, Durham, Stone Mason
Mary A Moody 50 b.ca 1851, Belford, Northumberland
John Moody 30 Bricklayer
Maggie Moody 27
Isaac Moody 24 Bricklayer
Arthur Moody 21 Joiner (Carpenter)
Leopold Moody 17 Stone Mason
Frederick Moody 13

Address:- 316 Saltwell Road

The following are also shown on the record page on ancestry as living with the Moody's ... they live next door..


Amos Fisher 17
John Fisher 15
Elizabeth Fisher 11
Elizabeth Amos 66



sylvia

MOODY, Leopold Head Married
5 years M 26 1885 Barman West Hartlepool Greek
MOODY, Margaret Wife Married F 26 1885 Kerry
MOODY, Willhelmina Daughter Single F 3 1908 Cock St Peters
MOODY, Francis Mary Daughter F 0 (1 MONTH) 1911 Newcastle St Stephens Northumberland

Registration District:
Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District:
Elswick Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Elswick

Address:
265 Scotswood Road County:
Northumberland


Births Jun 1911
Moody Frances M Newcastle T. 10b 53


YAY JC.

Image says Wilhelmina was born in Ireland..
And it is ...CORK ...St Peters