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What happened to Ethel Eugenie pantry?

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Rebecca

Rebecca Report 17 Jul 2010 15:37

Ethel was born to eugenie pantry in 1894 and is listed with her mother and an uncle in 1901 and again 1911. i have search ed all over for any possible marriages or deaths after 1911 but can find no trace of her. I notice on findmypast there is an E E Pantry who leaves in 1929 , perhaps who has a sub to this site could kindly look at the details please. I would be most grateful to anyone who can help me find her please, Thank you, Rebecca.

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Jul 2010 16:18

There are a couple of marriages of an Ethel Pantry?

Marriages Mar 1919 (>99%)


Pantry Ethel Day Selby 9c 1347

Marriages Dec 1928 (99%)



COULT George Pantry Goole 9c 1853

PANTRY Ethel Coult Goole 9c 1853

Choccy

Choccy Report 17 Jul 2010 16:18



Name: Miss E E PANTRY
Date of departure: 2 February 1929
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Melbourne, Australia
Passenger destination: Melbourne, Australia

Date of Birth: 1898 (calculated from age)
Age: 31
Marital status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Housekeeper
Passenger recorded on: Page 7 of 25

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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
ORFORD
146026
A L Owens
Orient
Australia
18636
12027
727


(last address in UK - 113 Reynoldson Street, Hull)



Choccy

Choccy Report 17 Jul 2010 16:20


The one travelling to Australia is probably this one -


Births Sep 1897 (>99%)
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Pantry Emma Elizabeth Selby 9c 906



and this could be the one getting married in Selby -

Births Jun 1893 (>99%)
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Pantry Ethel Selby 9c 874







Choccy

Choccy Report 17 Jul 2010 16:26



death of mother -


Deaths Mar 1941 (>99%)
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Pantry Eugenie 78 Lewisham 1d 1559


Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Jul 2010 16:27

If you haven't already, might be worth getting mother's death certificate? see who registered it?

Deaths Mar 1941 (>99%)


Pantry Eugenie 78 Lewisham 1d 1559

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 17 Jul 2010 16:28

Thank you both for this info, i really am at quite a loss as to where she went, i suppose it is possible she died after 2005 and as yet i cant find her death record. There appear to be through all my research two sets of Pantry families, the northern lot (Yorks)and the London lot!!! So it s not likely to be the one who emigrated, or the possible marriages, never mind i shall just keep trying!!!

Choccy

Choccy Report 17 Jul 2010 16:30



a possible marriage -


Marriages Dec 1918 (>99%)
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Pantrey Ethel Reed Epsom 2a 42
Reed Edward J Pantrey Epsom 2a 42



jax

jax Report 17 Jul 2010 16:36

If she died after 2005 she would be at least 111 not bad going i suppose

jax

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 17 Jul 2010 16:38

Thank you choccy, i will check this one x

Gee

Gee Report 17 Jul 2010 16:39

Now as we have nothing for defo so far, heres a long shot

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 <<<March quarter
about Ethel Eugenie Robinson
Name: Ethel Eugenie Robinson
Birth Date: 15 Jul 1894
Death Registration Month/Year: 1970
Registration district: Lewisham
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d
Page: 732



I dont suppose she could have taken her uncles name for some reason or other?

Do you know her exact birth date?

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Jul 2010 16:43

That looks very likely Ginny!

The other two Ethel pantrys on the 1911 are accounted for by the two marriages below ( Selby and Goole) I would say.

Gee

Gee Report 17 Jul 2010 16:51

Hmmm

Theres no birth for an Ethel Eugenie Robinson and I cant see a marriage for an Ethel Eugenie to a Robinson

It may well be her

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 17 Jul 2010 16:51

Ginny, you may have hit the nail on the head, this does sound very likely to me!!! Now how would i go about checking the exact details for this death, i know no reason for her to take the Robinson name !!

Gee

Gee Report 17 Jul 2010 16:55

You'd have to buy the certificate for the death and really for the birth too so you can cross ref her exact birth date

You can buy online from the GRO, they are £9.25 each

x

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 17 Jul 2010 17:04

Ginny, i think i shall buy the birth firstly and cross check with the death date allowing for the fact that some dates on deaths weren't aways very accurate.
i am very grateful for the searching you have all done for me on this one, i wonder if it is her, why on earth would she had been known as a Robinson. perhaps it has something to do with her uncle \Calebs estate upon his death.
Rebecca.

Gee

Gee Report 17 Jul 2010 17:17

Well heres a can of worms

There is no marriage for a Eugenie to a Pantry. Both Ethel and Eugenie are down as Caleb Robinson's 'Nieces'


Hmmmm...Im thinking Caleb is Ethels father and Eugenies 'other half'!

1901 England Census
about Eugenie Pantry
Name: Eugenie Pantry
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Deptford, Kent, England

Civil parish: Deptford St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: St John Deptford
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Deptford, South
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
Caleb J Robinson 54 <<Married
Eugenie Pantry 38 <<Housekeeper!!!! Single
Ethel E Pantry 6


If Caleb is married, wheres the wife then!!

x


Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Jul 2010 17:20


1881 England Census
about Caleb J. Robinson
Name: Caleb J. Robinson
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Anne M.
Gender: Male
Where born: Bermonsey, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 68 Adolphus St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Lighterman

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Caleb J. Robinson 35
Anne M. Robinson 29
Annie E. Robinson 11
Alice L. Robinson 9
William C. Robinson 7
Eugenie Panfrys 18 ***** ! Neice


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Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Jul 2010 17:22

Calebs wife was a Pantry

Marriages Jun 1868 (>99%)

Pantry Anne Maria Greenwich 1d 966
Robinson Caleb Joseph Greenwich 1d 966

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Jul 2010 17:25

I would think Caleb perhaps 'adopted' his great niece and gave her his name for respectabilty?