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WA indexes on line, duh.

http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/W/wa_registry_indexes.aspx

Unfortunately, I'm seeing no succour there.


Deaths:

KOSOVICH BARISA Male ??? PERTH 1952
- not likely grandfather of Mate Marin -- 1952

KOSOVICH IDA E Female PERTH 1942

KOSOVICH IVE Female 95 (parents MATE MADE) GASCOYNE 1965

KOSOVICH MATE Male NORTHAM 1927

KOSOVICH MATE Male 55 (parents NIKOLA KATE) E COOLGARDIE 1964
(note, Nikola may have died as Kosovac, 1916, Goulder - or that may be someone else)

KOSOVICH MIJO Male E COOLGARDIE 1944

KOSOVICH NICHOLAS Male PERTH 1946

KOSOVICH PAULINE (STILLBORN) Female PERTH 1951

KOSOVICH PETER Male PERTH 1947

KOSOVICH PHILLIP Male PERTH 1950

KOSOVICH STILLBORN Male E COOLGARDIE 1947


There are 9 Kosovich births in Swan and Boulder, 1927-1932 (no parents stated in the results list).

For marriages, only 5, in Boulder, Perth and Mt Margaret: Frane (male), John, Tode, Peter and Tony -- not looking like our immediate bunch.

Is the Swan district just south of Perth?

If so that Barisa death could be right if he was in hospital?

I was just thinking that Barisa would have been a little old when he died ... like really old -- per the info we have, he had a grandson born c1911. That makes him born c1870 at the latest really.

And that would make no sense if his *son* Ante died sometime not long after 1954 at the age of 85 ... making him born 1870ish ...


Why are none of *our* Kosovich-s indexed in the WA BMDs??? But note the apparently spare Mate-s dying in 1927 and 1964 ... I have to go remind myself when our Mate died; we do know?

Maybe Susan can ask her neighbour for some more names?

He must have an idea of who his aunts and uncles (siblings of Mate Marin) were. Maybe even their spouses ... maybe even their kids ...

Unless we're on a total wrong track and Mate Marin went to Australia alone, not with parents / grandparents / uncles / aunts / siblings.

Wonder if this is his death and Iva/Ante names are a little mixed up?

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Mate Kosovich
Name: Mate Kosovich
Death Place: Western Australia
Age: 79
Father's Name: Ivan Kosovich
Mother's Name: Ane Kosovich
Registration Place: Swan, Western Australia
Registration Number: 46/74


No bl##dy year of death!

Page one...Ive added Mates wife to the marriage I posted earlier. Dont know why his says 1939 and her 1938!

Thankyou everyone for your replies ,sorry but I had to go to bed.

Mate Marin Kosovich def came to OZ without his parents,they stayed In Yogoslavia,we know all about him and his wife since there marriage children, deaths , ect.

I was hoping someone with world Ancestry may be able to help find his family in Yogoslavia
I think I have found on family search Ante's chrisening,going by the map ref Ginny found for the area.
Ante Kosovich bn 19 Jan 1853 Licki Novi, Hrvatska.
His parents are Stepan and Mathia.

Thankyou all for your work I really appreciate the help.
Suexx

EDITE
The Swan Area is about 10klm from Perth all of those names are connected some how... I do not know the details of all his family to say for sure who is who.
I have deleted the thread from March,there was no information for me on that thread.
Thankyou again.... I will have to have more talks with my neighbour.

Susan, you missed my post on the previous page timestamped 15:53, I guess.

I posted that birth:

Ante KOSOVICH
Christening: 19 JAN 1853 Licki Novi, Hrvatska, Yugoslavia
Father: Stepan KOSOVICH
Mother: Mathia

It appears in the International Genealogical Index as a submitted (unverified) record, but one that looks quite reliable to me. See what I said about it there.

This makes him nearly 60 years old when Mate Marin was born in 1911. This surname is common, and many of the names in the list I linked to on page 1, from the IGI, are repeated in that location within the same time periods. I don't think there is a basis for considering that particular Ante Kosovich to be Mate Marin's father. I would expect to see at least one intervening generation. Unless that Ante was on his second wife, and she was a good 15 years younger than him.

As I explained, you can search for the names at Ancestry without subscribing for the records. If there are records there, your search results will show them, even if you can't see the full records. If you're not finding anything, then there's nothing there. I would be very surprised if there were, I think.

Just a note about Information in trees on Ancestry -- must never ever ever be accepted as true without proof. People who create those trees receive "hints" from the great big tree of the entire universe, and most of us are here to tell you they're often garbage.

(My grx4 grfather, the parish clerk of a tiny parish in Cornwall in the 1700s, had a son, according to four trees at Ancestry, who was born, lived and died in Tennessee. The surname wasn't even the same; it was just a possible variant of my ancestor's. Another ancestor of mine in Cheshire apparently had a grandson born ... wait for it ... 250 years before he was, in the North American colonies. You get the idea.)



We understood that you were on a different clock. It's 9:30 pm where I'm at, and I'm uncommonly tired, so I'm heading home myself. ;)

Hi Janey

Sorry I missed that entry,must have been more tired than I thought

Thankyou so much for your help.

I do take care not to use anything I can't prove is correct,I might add only doing Genealogy for 5yrs .....I do listen to all the advise on here,you and the group of supper sluths have help me to learn a great deal on how to search.
Your help and guidence is much appreciated.

Suexx

google:

zagreb kosovich

There are several results relating to immigration to Australia, it could be worth having a read, if you're up for spending some time. ;)


This one mentions the present-day Kosovich vintner in Swan

http://travelinsider.qantas.com.au/wine_swan_valley.htm


http://www.arts.mq.edu.au/documents/Croatian_Conference_Program.pdf

THE CROATIAN EMIGRANT COMMUNITY
(AUSTRALIA AND NEW ZEALAND)
Mr Steven Kosovich – Sydney, NSW
􀃆 Croatian settlers in Australia during World War I and its immediate aftermath
/ Hrvatski doseljenici za vrijeme Prvog svjetskog rata i poraća


Might be someone worth trying to contact!


Oops, crossed in the post -- you're most welcome from us. We would love it if there were records for people like these available on line! Or anywhere maybe; I have no idea what might survive now after all the conflicts that region has seen ...

Janey
I will def follow that up,it sounds interesting.

Thanks Again
Suex

Susan

Ive had another look through the shipping records for Mate but there is nothing that looks anything like

I wonder if he stowed away?

If you get anymore details from your neighbour pop them on here and we'll keep digging..we might end up in Oz by the time we finish!

x

Hi Ginny

Thankyou for your help ,it was very nice of you.

If I can get anymore out of my neighbour I will add it to the thread.
Suex

here's his miltitary record on national archives website

you can order the digital copy online

B884 W74968 KOSOVICH MATE : Service Number - W74968 : Date of birth - 02 Feb 1910 : Place of birth - DALMARIA YUGOSLAVIA : Place of enlistment - BLUE SPEC WA : Next of Kin - KOSOVICH THELMA
Access status:NYE
Location: Canberra
1939 - 1948 5882538

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx

this could be his naturalisation - diogiatl copy on line already

M Mate Kosovich Naturalisation
Contents date range 1921 - 1922
Series number A1
Control symbol 1922/15304
Item barcode 42379
Location Canberra

??? not sure
letter to Commonwealth on
Kosovich Brothers Vineyard letterhead dated 1922
descibes himeslf as age 28 5'6" brown hair blue eyes
address Mount St Boulder occ Miner

douments go on to say that he was from Zaostrog Dalmatia
b. 16 NOv 1893
arrived on the Orieto via Naples on 14 Aprilo 1914

please excuse my typos !!!

just found this one which ties up with his date of birth

Application for Naturalisation - KOSOVICH Mate born 2 February 1910
Contents date range 1933 - 1957
Series number A446
Control symbol 1955/26612
Item barcode 8859991
Location Canberra
Access status Not yet examined

you could order this online as well National archives

a snippet (1936) from Australian Newspapers (might be some others)...

FALL DOWN SHAFT.
Miner Seriously Injured.
KALGOORUE, April 8.— While being hauled to the surface of a shaft situated about eight miles south-east of Boulder late this afternoon. George Pavich (30),
of 31 Wilson-street, Kalgoorlie, fell to the bottom and received injuries which necessitated his removal to the Kalgoor lie District Hospital. Pavich was one of a party of three, including Bennington Haslen. of Outram street, Boulder, and Mate Kosovich, of Launceston-street, Boulder, who were working on the shaft. The two foreign ers were working below and Haslen on the surface. Haslen was hauling Pavich to the surface when the latter fell from the bucket to the bottom. It was ascertained tonight that Pavich was suffering from a serious injury to his right leg, a cut over the left eye, numerous abrasions and shock. His con dition was reported to be serious. Late tonight he was given a blood transfusion.

Chris :)

Hi Vitoria and Chris

Thankyou so much for your help ,I shall pass it all on.

Suex