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Help with scottish records/ charles L grass

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Mandy

Mandy Report 11 Jul 2010 22:40

Thank you Aileen.
Mandy xxx

Aileen

Aileen Report 11 Jul 2010 13:19

Emma's parents marriage

THOMAS EDWARDS
Event(s):
Marriages:
Spouse: HANNAH TROLLOP
Marriage:
06 DEC 1791 Horningsham, Wiltshire, England

Mandy

Mandy Report 11 Jul 2010 12:54

Have got some excellent pictures of Matthew Grass and some relatives dont know who they are yet and with all your help today (many thanks again) have lots of different avenues to explore. Aileen you are a gem totally amazing what knowledge you have .

Aileen

Aileen Report 11 Jul 2010 12:23

This Might be a marriage for James and Emma......(again she appears as Amy)

JAMES GRASS
Event(s):
Marriages:
Spouse: AMY EDWARDS
Marriage:
13 JUN 1826 Rugeley, Stafford, England

Aileen

Aileen Report 11 Jul 2010 12:15

James (Agnes' brother and family) 1881 census

Name: James Grass
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Grace
Gender: Male
Where born: Carnbee, Fifeshire
Registration Number: 454
Registration district: St Monance
Civil parish: St Monance
County: Fife
Address: Abercrombie Mill
Occupation: Gamekeeper
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 72
Line: 9
Roll: cssct1881_125
Household Members:
Name Age
James Grass 33
Grace Grass 28
Arthur James Grass 4
Robert Gray Grass 2
Matilda Grass Under 1 Mo

Aileen

Aileen Report 11 Jul 2010 12:07

Although I don't think we will be able to prove it I would assume that Agnes and Matthew were related before they married.....? cousins

Aileen

Aileen Report 11 Jul 2010 12:04

Death for Agnes' father James

1887 GRASS JAMES M 84 ANSTRUTHER WESTER /FIFE

James Grass (Gamekeeper) widower died 18/09/1887 at Pilotter, Anstruther Wester aged 84....son of John Grass (Rabbit Warrender)....mother's name unfortunately not know

Mandy

Mandy Report 11 Jul 2010 12:03

Aileen and Ann
Thank you both so much, It's amazing what you have found for me. just got back and have sneaked some pics of the grass family. Going to sit down and go thro everything you have posted now.
Mandy

Aileen

Aileen Report 11 Jul 2010 11:58

Death for Agnes' mother Emma

1859 GRASS EMMA EDWARDS F 53 CARNBEE /FIFE

Emma Grass.....died 07/10/1859 at Balcaskie aged 59 daughter of Thomas (Weaver) and Hannah Edwards ms Trollope

Emma was buried in the Old Churchyard of Abercrombie, St Monance, Fife

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Jul 2010 11:47



HARRIOT GRASS Pedigree
Female
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Event(s):
Birth: 10 MAR 1830

Christening: 01 MAY 1830 Redgorton, Perth, Scotland
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Parents:
Father: JAMES GRASS Family
Mother: EMMA EDWARDS
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Jul 2010 11:45


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EMMA GRASS Pedigree
Female
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Event(s):
Birth: 17 MAR 1859 Yester, East Lothian, Scotland
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Parents:
Father: MATTHEW GRASS Family
Mother: AGNES GRASS
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date

Aileen

Aileen Report 11 Jul 2010 11:44

It would seem several of Agnes siblings remained in Scotland

1891 census

Name: Emma Grass
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relationship: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Redgorton, Perthshire
Registration Number: 413
Registration district: Carnbee
Civil parish: Carnbee
County: Fife
Address: Balcaskie East Lodge
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 78
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1891_125
Household Members:
Name Age
Janass Grass 42.........should read James born Carnbee
James Grass 14
Robert Grass 12
Jane Grass 10
Johan Grass 6
Imma Grass 5
Harriet Grass 60
Emma Grass 49

Aileen

Aileen Report 11 Jul 2010 11:20

Births for some of the Grass Chidren....mother's name was actually Emma not Amey

01/05/1830 GRASS HARRIOT JAMES GRASS/EMMA EDWARDS F REDGORTON /PERTH

11/04/1832 GRASS AGNES JAMES GRASS/EMMA EDWARDS F REDGORTON /PERTH

01/07/1834 GRASS ELISABETH JAMES GRASS/EMMA EDWARDS F REDGORTON /PERTH

16/06/1836 GRASS WILLIAM JAMES GRASS/EMMA EDWARDS M REDGORTON /PERTH

05/06/1838 GRASS HANNAH JAMES GRASS/EMMA EDWARDS F REDGORTON /PERTH

30/06/1840 GRASS EMMA JAMES GRASS/EMMA EDWARDS F REDGORTON /PERTH

17/01/1843 GRASS MARY JAMES GRASS/EMMA EDWARDS F REDGORTON /PERTH

Aileen

Aileen Report 11 Jul 2010 11:14

1841 census for Agnes

Name: Agnes Gross
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Gender: Female
Where born: Perthshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Redgorton
County: Perthshire
Address: Piteairn
Parish Number: 390
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
James Gross 37............born England (Gamekeeper)
Amey Gross 35.............born England
Thomas Gross 14......born England
John Gross 13.........born England
Harriet Gross 11
Agnes Gross 9
Elizabeth Gross 7
William Gross 5
Hanah Gross 3
Amey Gross 1

Aileen

Aileen Report 11 Jul 2010 11:10

Birth for Emma

1859 GRASS EMMA F YESTER OR GIFFORD /EAST LOTHIAN 725/00 0008

Edit

Death for Emma

Name: Emma Grass
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Year of Registration: 1876
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 16
District: Melton Mowbray
County: Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire

Aileen

Aileen Report 11 Jul 2010 11:07

Would you believe this is them in 1861......lol

Name: Mathew Genes
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Agnes
Gender: Male
Where born: England
Registration Number: 725
Registration district: Yester
Civil parish: Yester
County: East Lothian
Address: Blawearie
Occupation: Gamekeeper
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 7
Line: 6
Roll: CSSCT1861_135
Household Members:
Name Age
Mathew Genes 29
Agnes Genes 28
Charles L Genes 6
Emma Genes 2

Agnes' place of birth is given as Redgorton....( that's not far from Pitcairn)

Aileen

Aileen Report 11 Jul 2010 10:45

? Possible for Agnes 1851 Scotland

Name: Agnes Grass
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Petcairn, Perthsire.....(? Pitcairn Perthshire)
Parish Number: 436
Civil parish: Kilconquhar
Town: Colinsburgh
County: Fife
Address: Colinsburgh
Occupation: House Servant
ED: 2
Page: 9 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 37
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1851_90
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Gordon 43
Jessie Gordon 29
John Gordon 8
Isabella Gordon 4
Robert Gordon 1
Agnes Grass 18

Aileen

Aileen Report 11 Jul 2010 10:33

Marriages Jun 1854

Grass Agnes Holywell 11b 551
Grass Matthew Holywell 11b 551

Mandy

Mandy Report 11 Jul 2010 10:33

Truly stunned by peoples help. can't believe you could all find that info so quickly. Got so much to go on now. Ann - amazing!! Aileen thank you for that info xx
Thank you, thank you thank you.
Off out to see if we can get some pics of the grass family. back later.
Mandy

Aileen

Aileen Report 11 Jul 2010 10:30

Birth for Sarah

1863 GRASS SARAH LYOD F YESTER OR GIFFORD /EAST LOTHIAN

Born 13/06/1863.......same names for parents

Parent's marriage 24/04/1854 Flintshire Water