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Thank you soo much for the extra info.

On Susannahs sons (George 1905) b/c they are living at 27 Moorsom/n St - so they clearly didnt move far!

I think they must have worked in the Jewellery Quarter - well known to us Brummies! They were involved in Pearl Button making for several generations it seems - wonder if they used to supply the Pearly King & Queen LOL!

Thanks again!

I hope to be able to use all the info in my 'book'
I'm really quite excited by it all!


xx

1881

Sussanah Durose
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: 2 CT 3 House
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Pearl Worker

Sussanah's occupation on the 1891 census is PEARL BUTTON POLISHER!

address Moorsom street

for later!!
1891
Susannah Durose
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Caroline Durose 55
Susannah Durose 23
Charles Durose 21
Fanny Durose 19
James Durose 16
Eliza Durose 14
Charlotte Durose 12
George Durose 10
Florence Durose 9
Ellen Durose 25

Caroline Durose
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Stony Stratford

Choccy & K,

Thanks so much for your contributions overnight (my time). I dont know how you find all these people with such glaring mis-transcriptions, but rest assured people like me are sooo appreciative of your tenacity!

K, I am researching the Ensor family as 65th birthday/retirement gift for my stepfather (Aug 11), as my mom has 3 published books on her side so thought it would be nice for him to have some history too. As I have limited time, I dont know how far I will get with the branches, but as Susannah Durose (Du Rose) is his grandmother, I may well pursue the line a little later on - and I will come a callin', thank you for that.

Well I will now print off what you have given me and start plotting a tree to work from.

Again, my sincere thanks
Vanesa x

Whilst I appreciate this is someone else's research, to help understand the probable connection between the families. there are a number of trees on Ancestry that give details of the family of the two George's. These trees list the two has having common great grandparents of Jesse Ensor b 1781 Birmingham and his wife Sarah Colney. Based on the 1841 census the family appear to been in the button trade for many years

The George b 1872 was descended from this couple via father Silas b 1843 and wife Ann and grandfather Silas Ensor b 1807 Warwickshire and wife Elizabeth Copson

The George b 1869 (husband of Susannah) is listed as son of Charles Ensor b 1841 in Birmingham and Mary Ann Eagles and George's grandfather is listed as William Ensor b 1805 with wife Matha

If you want to reseach your Durose side at some point from Susannah we have Durose ancesters via my mother in law and most lines are descended from families in the Bramshall area of Staffordshire. The Durose family research group meets there regularly and the name appears to have originated in Brittany

Good Luck Kayx

Yes Choccy - I saw that one and wondered

Just had a look at this - not sure who you are now looking for - but this is George and Susannah in 1911 -


ENSOR, George Head Married M 44 1867 Pearl Button Cutter Aston Birmingham Warwickshire VIEW
ENSOR, Sushannap Wife Married F 43 1868 Alma Street Birmingahm Warwickshire VIEW
ENSOR, Ada Daughter Children Married F 19 1892 Machinist Nail Cutter Aston Warwickshire VIEW
ENSOR, Beatress Daughter Children Single F 16 1895 Machinist Track Cutter Aston Warwickshire VIEW
ENSOR, Albert Son Single M 12 1899 Birmingham Warwickshire VIEW
ENSOR, George Son Single F 6 1905 Birmingham Warwickshire VIEW

CHAPLIN, Albert Boarder Married M 38 1873 None Employ Labourer By Trade Birmingham Warwickshire VIEW
CHAPLIN, Emma Boarder Married F 32 1879 Press Worker Birmingham Warwickshire VIEW
CHAPLIN, Albert Boarder M 0 (9 MONTHS) 1911 Birmingham Warwickshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18087 Reference:
RG14PN18087 RG78PN1097 RD384 SD3 ED27 SN200

Registration District:
Birmingham Sub District:
St George Enumeration District:
27 Parish:
Birmingham

Address:
11 Coleshill Place Cowper St Birmingham County:
Warwickshire



BUT ............


Think this is the same family (different surname!) in 1901 -

(surname transcribed as LOUCH on Ancestry, but LOVEL on FMP)

18 LOVEL, George Head Married M 29 1872 Pearl Button Cutter
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
18 LOVEL, Sussannah Wife Married F 28 1873
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
18 LOVEL, Ada Daughter F 9 1892
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
18 LOVEL, Beatrice Daughter F 6 1895
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
18 LOVEL, Albert Son M 2 1899
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2842 Folio:
69 Page:
3

Registration District:
Birmingham Sub District:
St George Enumeration District:
28 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Stephen

Civil Parish:
Birmingham Municipal Borough:
Address:
3, Frankfort Street, Birmingham County:
Warwickshire

Thanks so much to everyone for the time given to help me with this query, it really is appreciated!

Not far off bedtime for me so I wont be able to respond to any other contributions that may occur, until tomorrow. If anyone can find George & Susannah in 1901, that would be the icing on the cake!

Nite, nite & thanks heaps.
Vanessa x

........looking at the 1851 census you kindly posted yesterday, I think we could be on the right track with Silas jr & Charles being brothers! Might well explain the 2 Georges, and hopefully nothing more sinister than families just not getting on :o)

Thanks K
Maybe I need to go back in order to come forwards!

Silas Ensor has son George and is also working with Pearl Buttons! Wonder if Silas & Charles could be brothers? Will have another look at the posts to see............

Saw that too, thanks! I find it strange that they didnt get married til they would have been in their late 50's, early 60's!

Family in the UK are going to get the marriage cert details of George & Susannah. Might be we have to get George & Kates too, if only to clarify.
The elder members of the family have always been a little reluctant to talk about family, as if they are ashamed of something, so want to get this sorted before I go any further back - would hate to upset anyone, with what is meant to be a well intentioned gesture!

If only, I could find George & Susannah on the remaining census!

Thanks so much for your ongoing efforts to help
xx

I think this is the George Ensor with wife Susannah - his father is also a pearl button maker

1881

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Charles ENSOR Head M Male 37 Birmingham Pearl Button Maker
Mary Ann ENSOR Wife M Female 36 Birmingham
Charles ENSOR Son Male 17 Birmingham
George ENSOR Son Male 14 Birmingham Scholar
Phoebe ENSOR Daur Female 11 Birmingham Scholar
William ENSOR Son Male 9 Birmingham Scholar
Martha ENSOR Daur Female 6 Birmingham Scholar
Frederick ENSOR Son Male 5 Birmingham Scholar
Solomon ENSOR Son Male 3 Birmingham
Ada ENSOR Daur Female 2 Birmingham
Joseph ENSOR Son Male 11 m Birmingham


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Source Information:
Dwelling 84 Bracebridg St
Census Place Birmingham, Warwick, England
Family History Library Film 1341716
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2996 / 47
Page Number 39

This also looks like the death of Susannah Ensor so Kate and George could have married earlier if she was the reason they did not earlier

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Deaths Jun 1919 (>99%)
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Ensor Susannah A 49 Birmingham 6d 297

Thanks K - any lead would be great to help me try and unravel!
I know for certain that George Ensor b 1905 (marr Annie Ward) has parents George Ensor & Susannah Du Rose (marr 1891).
What I find strange - as earlier - is that there are 2 George Ensors, same age (give or take) and working in the same trade!

Digressing slightly but this is Silas Ensor in 1911 listed as Sadler. I also looked at the signitures of both George Ensors in 1911 and they do appear different ie not the same person.

I can't find George and Susannah at the moment in 1901 but I did find a couple with the same named children of the right ages and parents christian names and I think the surname Loach in 1901 earlier today in the right area which seemed most strange but probalbly complete red herring!


1911 census - household transcription
Person: SADLER, Silas
Address: 10 Court 6 H Park Lane Aston Manor

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SADLER, Benjamin Head Married M 73 1838 Pearl Button Worker Bham Warwickshire VIEW
SADLER,(Ensor) Silas Boarder Widower M 68 1843 Pearl Button Worker Bham Warwickshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18294 Reference:
RG14PN18294 RG78PN1102 RD385 SD4 ED25 SN28

Registration District:
Aston Sub District:
Aston Manor Enumeration District:
25 Parish:
Aston Manor

Address:
10 Court 6 H Park Lane Aston Manor County:
Warwickshire

Hi can anybody enlighten me on the post before this one that has been deleted?

Many thanks
Vanessa

Have to go for now - lunchtime over :0( but will check back later!

As always, eternally grateful for your help
Vanessa x

Thanks so much Victoria!

There is no question that they are the people I am looking for, but the names of the other family (George & Kate) are also remembered by family so a bit to unravel me thinks.
It's seems a bit strange that 2 George Ensors (not a common name) are both involved in Pearl Buttons at the same time - not sure if 1 George leading 2 lives (George & Kate didnt marry til 1933 - after Susannah died?) or if it is merely a coincidence and they may be cousins or such like!

Are you able to find George & Susannah in 1901 by any chance??
Thanks again :0)

>>>> EDIT: Thanks for the marriage, I had seen that and will probably adding the cert to my collection:))

Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%)
Du Rose Susanna Birmingham 6d 117 Scan available - click to view
Ensor George Birmingham 6d 117 Scan available - click to view