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Moody Blue
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11 Sep 2010 08:48 |
There is this marriage in Middlesbrough for an Ellen:-
England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about Ellen Coward Name: Ellen Coward Spouse Surname: Parker Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1921 Registration district: Middlesbrough Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire Volume Number: 9d Page Number: 1301 Find Spouse: Francis Parker
and children?
Births Jun 1922 Parker Olive Coward Middlesbro' 9d 1001
Births Sep 1925 Parker Francis W Coward Middlesbro' 9d 902
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11 Sep 2010 08:39 |
maybe.......................... or maybe not?
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Ellen Margaret Coward Name: Ellen Margaret Coward Year of Registration: 1901 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Gateshead County: Durham, Tyne and Wear Volume: 10a Page: 1063
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10 Sep 2010 23:35 |
UPDATE: Alice`s obituary reads: BLOTT (otherwise Coward),-On July 13, at 76 Telford-street, North Ormesby, Alice, dearly loved mother of Mary, Ellen, Evelyn and Annie Cortege leaves above address Friday 3.30, for service and interment at North Ormesby Cemetery. Funeral private.
This seems to confirm the work you all did here, so thank you! I can't a reference for Ellen's birth, and I've looked under the different surnames but no sign yet ... will keep looking though!
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Peter
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19 Jun 2010 15:57 |
Thank you for this help; I would never have worked outthe mystery otherwise! Thank you! I have lokoed for military records for J.W. Cowen/Coward, but no such luck as yet! Perhaps I really need to order his birth cert! Thank you !
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19 Jun 2010 05:00 |
Well, that explains why I couldn't find John William's birth under Coward or Blott.
Alice must have had another partner between Frederick and John.
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18 Jun 2010 18:30 |
Could this be his death?
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about John W Coward Name: John W Coward Death Registration Month/Year: 1918 Age at death (estimated): 22 Registration district: Lambeth Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 1d Page: 434
# 4th London General. A TF General Hospital in Denmark Hill. 300 officers and 1625 other ranks. - Neurological section established by early 1915, acting as clearing hospital for these cases. Formerly the Maudsley Memorial Hospital at Denmark Hill. By June 18 known as Maudsley Neurological Clearing Hospital.
Who operated and manned these hospitals?
These military hospitals were manned and operated by the Royal Army Medical Corps and Queen Alexandra's Imperial Military Nursing Service, supplemented by voluntary workers from a number of organisations including the Voluntary Aid Detachments, Red Cross, St John's Ambulance and YMCA.
From:- Denmark Hill, Camberwell to:- Lambeth, London distance:-1.8 miles
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18 Jun 2010 18:15 |
possible birth for the son but why Cowen?
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about John William Cowen Name: John William Cowen Year of Registration: 1897 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Gateshead County: Durham, Tyne and Wear Volume: 10a Page: 900
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Peter
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18 Jun 2010 18:09 |
Now I have been looking through my notes; Alice's father, is buried with these two men, who I assume are Alice's son and husband?
1) J.W. Coward, otherwise Cowen - aged 22 years, of 59 Blake Street, buried 20th May 1918 (4th London General Hospital Britton?)
2) John Coward - aged 79 years, 76 Telford Street, North Ormesby, buried 26th October 1945.
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Moody Blue
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18 Jun 2010 18:08 |
Alice Blott age 87 Middlesbro 3rd qtr 1955 vol 1b page 580
Just checked , and the reference details are exactly the same which would indicate that she never married John Coward but was indeed a commom law wife.that is why her death is registered under both surnames.
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Peter
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18 Jun 2010 17:59 |
Wow, this definitley makes sense! John George Smitheringale was my gg granddad!
I'll keep looking for a marriage ... funny though as there is also an Alice Blott dying in 1955 aged 87 years ... is the same person as Alice Coward, and if so why is she registered under two different names?!
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Moody Blue
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18 Jun 2010 12:58 |
Re 1901 census:-
15 Thomas St Middlesbro( same address as Alice Coward but different households)
John George Smitheringale age 32, Slag Lighterman on Barges born Frieston Lincolnshire Mary J Smitheringale age 32, wife, born Stockton Durham Fred Smitheringale age 8, son born Middlesbro William age 6 son born Middlesbro Elizabeth age 5 daughter born Middlesbro Harriett age 3 daughter born Middlesbro Amelia age 1 daughter born Middlesbro
Have not been able to locate a marriage for John coward to Alice Blott/Smitheringale.
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Peter
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18 Jun 2010 12:23 |
Oh my this is amazing; you have all solved a mass problem I had had for years. Alice Smitherinbgale's father John died and was buried with people named Coward. I could nver find a connection, and I assumed that once hewas buried the grave had been resold or something etc. But this makes sense! Wow, thank you ... I can't thank you enough! You have really solved a riddle here for me!!!!!
In 1901 who are the Smitheringale's next door?! Also, does it look as though Alice Smitheringale and John Coward where 'common-law' spouses (so not married). I am so thankful for this!!!!
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Moody Blue
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17 Jun 2010 10:33 |
another?
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Annie Coward Name: Annie Coward Year of Registration: 1909 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Middlesbrough (1875-1968) County: Yorkshire - North Riding Volume: 9d Page: 528
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17 Jun 2010 10:31 |
Birth of Alice's daughter Evelyn?
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Eveline Coward Name: Eveline Coward Year of Registration: 1906 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Middlesbrough (1875-1968) County: Yorkshire - North Riding Volume: 9d Page: 555
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17 Jun 2010 10:07 |
Well, this appears to be Fred's death:-
Deaths Jun 1920 BLOTT Frederick 63 Middlesbro' 9d 684
possibly Alice?
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Alice Coward Name: Alice Coward Death Registration Month/Year: 1955 Age at death (estimated): 87 Registration district: Middlesbrough Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding Volume: 1b Page: 580
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17 Jun 2010 09:38 |
And there are Smitheringales next door. Has to be the correct family.
Looks like Alice and Fred. had separated if Peter says he was still alive in 1911.
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17 Jun 2010 09:37 |
Found them:
1901 England Census about Alice Poward Name: Alice Poward Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: John Gender: Female Where born: London, England Civil parish: Middlesbrough Ecclesiastical parish: St Hilda County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Middlesbrough Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 148 Household Members: Name Age John Poward 36 Alice Poward 34 Mary A Poward 12 John W Poward 4 Charles Legge 39
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17 Jun 2010 09:35 |
Anyone else notice that the head of the house was an Alice born the same time as Alice Smitheringale/Blott? Wonder if she had separated from Fred. Blott.
Can't see to find the Cowards in 1901.
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17 Jun 2010 09:31 |
This entry on 1911?
1911 census transcription details for: 1 St James Place Middlesbro National Archive Reference: RG14PN29268 RG78PN1696 RD535 SD3 ED5 SN186 Reg. District: Middlesbrough Sub District: Middlesbrough West Parish: Middlesbrough Enum. District: 5 Address: 1 St James Place Middlesbro County: Yorkshire (North riding) Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born COWARD, Alice Wife Married 24 years F 43 1868 No Occapation Middlesbro Yorks COWARD, William Son M 15 1896 No Occapation Gateshead Durham COWARD, Helen Daughter F 9 1902 School Gateshead Durham COWARD, Evelyn Daughter F 5 1906 School Middlesbrough Yorks COWARD, Annie Daughter F 2 1909 Middlesbrough Yorks >>>>>>>HERMAN Visitor Married 2 years F 23 1888 Middlesbrough >>>>>>>HERMAN, Mary Daughter F 2 1909 Middlesbrough
unable to read the christian name but could be just Mrs.
Also could not find a birth for a Mary Herman born 1909 but did find this entry:
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Mary Ann Blott Name: Mary Ann Blott Year of Registration: 1909 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Middlesbrough (1875-1968) County: Yorkshire - North Riding Volume: 9d Page: 600
wondering if there is a connection?
Sorry Choccy, so engrossed in searching, I did not see that you had got there first going down the same path.
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17 Jun 2010 09:15 |
Is this - perhaps - the birth of the child listed as Herman in 1911?
Births Jun 1909 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BLOTT Mary Ann Middlesbro' 9d 600
No birth for Mary Herman in 1908/9
The mother (on 1911 image) states that she has been married for two years, but that's probably due to the age of her child..................
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