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goldielocks

goldielocks Report 17 Aug 2012 05:31

Thanks Joy..yes I have found out alittle more about this family (Ramptons)Dinah seemed to have married twice..Kind regards to all the helpers, Debbie

tempest

tempest Report 3 Aug 2012 21:26

Hi Joy

it's two years since goldielocks aka debbie last posted on this thread, she might not be checking for new messages.

it may be worth sending her a message directly by clicking on her name on the first post, if she is a member genesreunited will notify her (hopefully she hasn't changed her email address).

kind regards

Joy

Joy Report 3 Aug 2012 21:20

Hi
Dinah Blunden Did marry twice, Ist to William Wigmore and Christopher Rampton.
Dinah is in my tree

Joy

goldielocks

goldielocks Report 12 Jun 2010 04:31

Many thanks to Victoria and Sylvia,you have been alot of help,I will have to change Dinah and her parents from my tree. Yes I do now think that there was two different Dinah Blunden's. Now I will have to find Dinah;s parents!
That way I will know Iam on the right path. Again than you all for your wonderful help and research. Debbie

Vicci

Vicci Report 11 Jun 2010 21:58

tree on ancestry has Richard Rampton baptism

12 Nov 1785
All Saints, Monk Sherborne, Hampshire

no other info

Vicci

Vicci Report 11 Jun 2010 21:44

from Hampshire parish records

Richard Blunden, of Monks Sherborn, & Martha Freborn 24 Oct 1754
Collection: Hampshire: - Register of Marriages, 1559-1812 (Marriage)

Vicci

Vicci Report 11 Jun 2010 21:38

this might be worth checking out as well

Richard Blunden Pedigree
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: Martha Freborn Family
Marriage:
24 OCT 1754 Of Monks-Sherborn, , Hampshire, England

Messages:
Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The record often shows the name of the individual and his or her relationship to a descendant, shown as the heir, family representative, or relative. The original records are not indexed, and you may have to look at the film frame-by-frame to find the information you want. A family group record for this couple may be in the Family Group Record Collection; Archive Section. (See the Family History Library Catalog for the film number.) These records are alphabetical by name of the father or husband.

Source Information:
Film Number: 184287
Page Number: 484
Reference number: 11034

Vicci

Vicci Report 11 Jun 2010 21:19

the only way, i believe, to clarify the data is to look at the original entries of the 2 marriages in the parish registers and hope there is more info, like father's names, witnesses etc


so Looking for someone with access to HAMPSHIRE parish records for Monk Sherborne and North Waltham to get clariifcation of.....

1. Dinah Blunden marriage to William Wigmore 2 Mar 1788 North Waltham
2. Dinah Blunden baptism 8 Jul 1759 North Waltham f. John m. Rebecca
3. Dinah Blunden marriage to Christopher Rampton 18 Jul 1785 Monk Sherborne
4. Dinah Blunden baptism in Monk Sherborne around 1760
5. Baptisms of children of Dinah and Christpher Rampton in Monk Sherborne
Richard RAMPTON 1785
Edward RAMPTON 1787
Christopher RAMPTON 1790
Anthony Rampton 1793

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Jun 2010 19:07

ah yes


One Name Studies

There was a One Name Study on my fahter's name

I discovered after the events below that it was led by my second cousin, grandson of Dad's eldest brother


He had my brother as my father, married to my mother, they had no son but I was listed as their daughter. My father disappeared somewhere after his birth being noted


The owner of the study refused to have any dialogue with me, even after I had sent $30 (ca £15) worth of International Money Coupons to pay for the airmail cost of a letter. Thus refusing to acknowledge there was any problem.

6 long months later, the Registrar of the ONG removed my second cousin's privileges, revoked his membership in ONG, and removed the tree from their web site


Unfortunately, a cd had been made about 1999 and circulated to all members of a group devoted to research on the name ............. and is still being circulated with the incorrect information. This is actually how I found out about it .... someone passed on a "pirated" copy of the cd in 2006


Any future cd that may be produced probably will be correct .................. but possibly only if one person living in the US is involved. She has promised me that the information will be corrected.





Victoria ............ . sorry, I missed the fact that you had posted that. That record doesn't show fathers though does it?



sylvia

Vicci

Vicci Report 11 Jun 2010 05:44

Syvlvia there is a marriage of a Dinah Blunden to Wigmore from the Hampshire extracted parish reg.

unfortunately can't find any transcripts of Monk Sherborne baptisms

goldielocks

goldielocks Report 11 Jun 2010 04:53

Sylvia
I also have the Sue Dawes One Name Study,and this is where the discrepancy is! A member who is a direct decendant of his Dinah says alot of us (Rampton line) have got it wrong,that his Dinah Blunden was born bap and died N Waltham. But mine seems to have never left Monk Sherborne..

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Jun 2010 04:50

You know


I'd go for your information


There is a birth, baptism and marriage for that Dinha, all from extracted reocrds



The only marriage record for Dinah Blunden marrying William Wigmore that I can see comes from a SUBMITTED record .... sent in by a mamber of the LDS church, with no backing documentation!




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Jun 2010 04:48

William Wigmore and Dinah apear to ahve had at least 3 children ... these are all extracted records

JOHN WIGMORE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 02 MAR 1788 North Waltham, Hampshire, England

WILLIAM WIGMORE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 15 JUL 1781 North Waltham, Hampshire, England

GEORGE WIGMORE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 10 SEP 1786 North Waltham, Hampshire, England




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Jun 2010 04:42

There are 2 trees on rootsweb thta have Dinah Blunden, both have her marrying Christopher. Both trees are by the same person!

This is copied from one of the trees


ID: I1374
Name: Dinah BLUNDEN
Sex: F
Birth: 1759 - 1762
Burial: 17 JUN 1819 Monk Sherborne, England 1
Baptism: 8 JUL 1759 North Waltham 1
Change Date: 4 FEB 2001


Father: John BLUNDEN
Mother: Rebecca

Marriage 1 Christopher RAMPTON b: 1759


Note: 1Christopher, the first child of Edward and Elizabeth (neeLEAVY), married Dinah BLUNDEN on 18 Jul 1785 at MS. Dinah isprobably the child of John and Rebecca Blunden, baptised inNorth Waltham on 8 Jul 1759, and she died in MS and was buriedthere ("Dinah wife of Christopher Rampton") on 17 Jun 1819, aged57, although the age given at the time of her death would meanthat she was actually born circa 1762. Christopher died and wasburied in MS on 28 Dec 1838 aged 79 years.


Children
Richard RAMPTON b: 1785
Edward RAMPTON b: 1787
Christopher RAMPTON b: 1790
Antony RAMPTON b: 1793 in England

Sources:
Type: E-Mail Message
Author: Sue Daws
Title: Rampton of Monk Sherborne
Date: 5 Feb 2001



The second tree has less information, but does have 2 additional sources



Type: LDS Record
File: Parish registers, 1654-1877 Church of England. Parish Church of North Waltham

Type: LDS Record
File: Marriages of Monk, Sherborne, Hampshire, England, 1618-1811
Location: call # 942.27 V26ma




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Jun 2010 04:34


This is the source for the birth and baptism of Dinah as attached to that Coupland Tree that I posted above



England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906

Name: Dinah Rampton
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1766
Christening Date: 7 Dec 1766
Christening Place: Tadley, Hampshire, England
Father's Name: John Rampton
Mother's Name: Sarah


I guess the birth came from familysearch




sylvia

Vicci

Vicci Report 11 Jun 2010 04:31

there has to have been 2 Dinah Blunden's

just need to find the christening of the second one

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Jun 2010 04:28

so there was a marriage in 8 Jan 1781 to William Wigmore .... if only we could see where that one took place!!



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Jun 2010 04:25

goldielocks


that's a possibility!!!


It would be the answer to the problem!


I have to say that the trees with her marrying Christopher do also show the Blunden Family Coat of Arms.

The one and only one of her marrying Wigmore does not. Of course I ahve no idea what was on the 3 that are not accessible.



sylvia

Vicci

Vicci Report 11 Jun 2010 04:24

Text: Wm. Wigmore & Dinah Blunden 08 Jan 1781
Collection: Hampshire: - Register of Marriages, 1559-1812 (Marriage)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Jun 2010 04:23

I was unable to access 3 of the trees that had her marrying William Wigmore ........ they could have been removed or changed to Private Family Trees

The one that I could access had the minimum of information:-


Arrowsmith - Oliver (20/02/09)
Owner: martynghjones

Dinah Blunden

Birth
18 JUN 1759
North Waltham, Hampshire, England

Death
UNKNOWN


Family Members

Parents

John Blunden
1719 –

Rebecca



Siblings

Peter Blunden


John Blunden
1746 – 1820

Isaac Blunden
1748 –

Mary Blunden
1748 –

David Blunden
1766 –


Spouse & Children


William Wigmore
1759 –


William Wigmore
1781 –





sylvia