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Thank you everyone for the info will take it all on board and see if I can try and make it fit.

Hi all, I have found some more info for Elizabeth she died Jan 1987 Ealing her birth on there is 17th Mar 1895, Though I am still having probs finding a birth for her(not knowing what her maiden name was). I have found out that she had children - Peter and Patricia the twins as I mentioned in an earlier message, Joyce, Joan, and gwen. possibly a Jean. They were all born in the greenford/Eltham area.

I have found out from one of Elizabeth's daughter's that her maiden name is Peters but still unable to find a birth

Births Mar 1895
Peters Elizabeth Jane
King's N. 6c 528

This is Peters birth. the Mothers maiden is clearly peters on the entry.
It has been mistranscribed on FreeBMD

Births Mar 1928
Simmons Peter J
Mothers Maiden Name: Parker
Lewisham 1d 1501

Their first child Betty died

Births Mar 1927
Simmons Betty F
Mothers Maiden Name: Peters
Lewisham 1d 1381

Deaths Jun 1927
Simmons Betty F 0
Lewisham 1d 921

The Twins
Births Mar 1928
Simmons Patricia E
Mothers Maiden Name: Peters
Lewisham 1d 1502

Simmons Peter J
Mothers Maiden Name: Parker (image shows Peters)
GRO: Lewisham 1d 1501

(Gwen)
Births Jun 1929
Simmons Florence G
Mothers Maiden Name: Trivett
Lewisham 1d 1329

(Joan)
Births Sep 1930
Simmons Gladys J
Mothers Maiden Name: Peters
Woolwich 1d 1588

(Joyce)
Births Jun 1932
Simmons Joyce M
Mothers Maiden Name: Peters
Woolwich 1d 1552

(Jean)
Births Mar 1936
Simmons Jeanette
Mothers Maiden Name: Peters
Woolwich 1d 1321

Hi all, I have some new info. I have purchased 2 of Elizabeths childrens birth certs. on 1 of them the mothers name is Betty Elizabeth Simmons formerly Trivett and the other one is Betty Elizabeth Simmons late Trivett formerly Peters. It might be possible that she was born Betty Elizabeth. I still havent been able to find anything on her though. Can anyone shread any light on this?

Thank you
Joanne

Hi all,

I also found out that Elizabeth had a son from her 1st marriage a John Trivett dont know if there are any middle names or a birth date for him I have searched for a birth for him from 1915-1925 and not had any luck. I don't know the name of Elizabeth's 1st husband just surname.

This family seems to be a mystery, If anybody can help it would be great even if it seems so small. If you cant find anything please post that on here because I may have to go further a field to find this family.

Many thanks
Joanne

Marriages Jun 1895 <<<<<<<<<<
Peters Thomas Samuel Woolwich 1d 1837
Hendon Sarah Woolwich 1d 1837


her birth per death certificate 17th Mar 1895 <<<<<<<<<<<

Perhaps the clue is the date of the marriage if after 17th Mar

a previous marriage for SARAH so the child in her married name ?
PETERS, Sarah Wife Married 25 years 11 children 10 living 44 1867 Woolwich London

28 years old in 1895 <<<<<<<<<<

11 children by 1911 <<<<per 1911 census


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Births Dec 1866
Peters Tom S Ross 6a 438



1871 England Census
Name: Thomas Peters
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Ross, Herefordshire, England
Civil parish: Ross
Ecclesiastical parish: Ross
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Ross
Sub-registration district: Ross

George Peters 44 occupation MASON
Elizabeth Peters 41 born: Ross, Herefordshire,
Henry Peters 15
Frances Peters 11
Thomas Peters 4
Annie Peters 2

Births Jun 1856
PETERS Henry Ross 6a 420
Births Dec 1859
PETERS Frances Ross 6a 421

Marriages Jun 1851
Gardner Elizabeth Ross 26 387
Peters George Ross 26 387



1861 England Census
Name: George Peters
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Walford, Herefordshire, England

Civil parish: Ross
Town: Ross
County/Island: Herefordshire

Registration district: Ross
Sub-registration district: Ross
George Peters 33
Elizabeth Peters 31
George Peters 10
Henry Peters 5
Mary A Peters 8
Sarah Peters 6
Frances Peters 1

1891 England Census
Name: George Peters
Age: 65
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Ross, Herefordshire, England

Civil parish: Ross
Ecclesiastical parish: Ross
Town: Ross
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Ross

Name Age
George Peters 65 MASON
Eliza Peters 60

1901 census

Thomas S Peters 34
Sarah Peters 34 Woolwich

George Peters 14 Woolwich ( son )
Florine Peters 9 Ross ( FLORRIE ) daughter
Thomas Peters 6 Woolwich
Bessie Peters 3 Plumstead
Gordon Peters 2 Plumstead
Frank Peters 2 months Plumstead


Sarah & Thomas married in1895 who is Florrie & George's mum ?
Thomas married before ?


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Marriages Sep 1926
Simmons Albert J J Trivett Lewisham 1d 2533
Trivett Elizabeth Simmons Lewisham 1d 2533

Births Mar 1887
Simmons Albert James J Lewisham 1d 1139

Marriages Dec 1917
Harvey John R C Peters Lambeth 1d 484
Peters Betty Harvey Lambeth 1d 484

???

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about John Roy Crotch Harvey
Name: John Roy Crotch Harvey
Birth Place: Plymouth, Devon
Residence: Tavistock, Devon
Death Date: 1 Oct 1918
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Exeter, Devon
Rank: Private
Regiment: Royal Army Medical Corps
Battalion: (Territorial Force.)
Number: 457479
Type of Casualty: Died
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

Joanne, I believe I am the grandaughter of Elizabeth by her son John Thomas Peters Trivett, from her first marriage. I don't know a lot as by the time I came along dad had severed all ties with her as he didn't get on with his stepdad. John was born in 1924 and died in 1985. He had 3 daughters.
Two are now living in Australia (me included) and one is still in the UK.
Let me know if you need any info.
Regards
Diane