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Patricia
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3 Jun 2010 15:51 |
How strange, I am Patricia Cooke nee Mason dob 25.1.19?? with a daughter Elizabeth Cooke History repeating itself I think!! As I said tomorrow I will make time to go through all your options and choose myself a family...is that allowed? PS I can't understand why Martha Mary was in the Marylebone orphanage either unless her mother was too ill to look after her. Patricia
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Mary
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3 Jun 2010 14:48 |
If it is the one ine Tonbridge then George 1812 and Elizabeths marriage maybe. George Mason married Elizabeth Cook 25/1/1835.
Ric Mason married Jane Millis 29/6/1803 and christened, William 27/9/1807 Mary Ann 1/10/1809 George 11/10/1812 all in Tonbridge.
There was a marriage for a Frederick Mason J/A/S 1866 to Selina Twort or Eliza E Willicombe 2a 822.
Another in Tonbridge Frederick to Mary Hannon J/A/S 1874 2a 824.
1881 Frederick with wife mary 26,Tower Street Eastbourne D17 32. Son William 1873/4 Harry 1853 brother. as on 1871 census.
Maryb
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MaureeninNY
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3 Jun 2010 14:32 |
I guess my thinking was that the T'bridge George was quite possibly the son of one of the unmarried daughters (Martha??) and just put down good old Uncle Fred as his father on the marriage cert to save face.
I was trying to check out the other George (son of Fred and Hannah) to see if I could find him post 1871,but not having much luck. He seems to be a witness on brother Frank's marriage to Jane Pearl in 1888. Could someone who has access maybe see if they think the signature for George on his marriage to Emily Sharpe matches up to the one where he's a witness? (did that make sense??)
I really am leaning towards the T'bridge fellow,but not 100% certain.
Maureen
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Mary
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3 Jun 2010 13:48 |
So if we are going with George being born in Tonbridge 1866 and with grandparents in Tonbridge 1871 and with them a Frederick 1850 so he would have only been @ 16 when George was born!!!!!!!!
1881 District 6 Tonbridge George 1822 Railway Labourer Elizabeth 1815 Henry Foster son in law CLARA daughter 1854 George 15 + 1866 now says son,but he isn't,their son George was born 1844.
1891 D5 image 37 George Mason 1813 Railway Labourer Widow living on his own.
I'am now thinking the other George etc which I posted was in fact the wrong one.
Maryb
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Patricia
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3 Jun 2010 10:38 |
This was my grandfather George Louis he was in the Royal House Artillery. The only photograph of him was in his full dress uniform. I am pretty sure everything is correct including George Edward and Emily Sharpe. I think the info'Jax and Mary gave me could seriously be the rest of the family going back to 1806. I have to go out for the rest of today but will check more details on the cenus's tomorrow. Thanks again for the help. Patricia
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LondonBelle
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2 Jun 2010 17:45 |
I think this is George & Emily in 1891 census
ame: G Mason Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation: Head Spouse's name: E Gender: Male Where born: Tonbridge, Kent, England Civil parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 213 Lynham Road
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Brixton ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age G Mason 30 b Tonbridge Kent occ General Labourer E Mason 30 b Hampton Middlesex
In the age column for both in had NK then it has been crossed out and 30 written in for both
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MaureeninNY
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2 Jun 2010 16:40 |
Just throwing these in (don't know if the first one is correct!) 1911 census transcription details for: 129 Herries Street Paddington
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN11 RG78PN1 RD1 SD1 ED11 SN293
Reg. District: Paddington Sub District: Paddington North Parish: Paddington Enum. District: 11 Address: 129 Herries Street Paddington County: London
MASON, George Head Married M 43 1868 Coal Porter Tonbridge Kent MASON, Annie Wife Married 20 years F 37 1874 Somers Town MASON, Albert Son Single M 15 1896 Painter Tarpaulin Street Hampton Middlesex YOUNG, Katherine Visitor Single F 5 1906 Albany Street
They say they've had 3 children. All living.
And George: 1911 census transcription details for: 1st Cavalry Brigade Royal House Artillery, Military details: Driver Rha
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN3122 RD34 SD2 ED13 SN9999
Reg. District: Farnham Sub District: Aldershot Parish: Aldershot Enum. District: 13 Address: Wellington Lines Aldershot County: Surrey MASON, George Lewis Single ? 18 1893 Surrey Hampton
Maureen
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MaureeninNY
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2 Jun 2010 16:35 |
Well there's something odd going on. Is this Martha? And why is she here?? 1901 Ancestry Name: Martha Mary Mason Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1892 Relation: In The All St Orphanage Gender: Female Where born: Hampton On Thames, Middlesex, England Civil parish: St Marylebone Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Margaret Street and St Marylebone County/Island: London Country: England
Maureen
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LondonBelle
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2 Jun 2010 16:09 |
Yes, Maureen that's what I was looking at. Think a birth certificate for George Louis is needed before going further back....just in case his parents aren't George & Emily!
EDIT : Now can see how Patricia has got to George & Emily as parents. Especially as Emily's father was called Lowies Sharpe
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MaureeninNY
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2 Jun 2010 15:49 |
I agree with Londonbelle! Doesn't this make more sense for George? 1871 Ancestry Name: George Mason Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Tonbridge, Kent, England Civil parish: Tonbridge Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen Town: Tonbridge County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Tunbridge Sub-registration district: Tunbridge ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 46 Household Members: Name Age George Mason 56 Elizabeth Mason 57 Samuel Mason 25 Martha Mason 24 Frederick Mason 21 Harry Mason 19 Clara Mason 17 George Mason 4 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 932; Folio: 8; Page: 8;
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Patricia
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2 Jun 2010 15:25 |
I have to log off now and do some work, but thank's again I am quite excited you have all helped me find my family. Patricia.
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LondonBelle
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2 Jun 2010 15:23 |
The only reason why I asked whether you had got George Louis' birth certificate is that the 1901 census states that George Snr was born in Tunbridge Wells Kent not Middlesex or Essex
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Sue In Yorkshire.
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2 Jun 2010 15:16 |
1851
1851 census - household transcription Person: MASON, Frederick Address: Church Street, West Ham, Church Street Cost: You will be charged 5 credits for a transcript and 5 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records. census search results 1851 address search redefine current search Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born Original census image
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MASON, Frederick Head Married M 39 1812 Stone Mason Ware Hertfordshire VIEW MASON, Elizabeth Wife Married F 39 1812 Colchester Essex VIEW MASON, Frederick Son M 15 1836 West Ham Essex VIEW MASON, Elizabeth Daughter F 13 1838 West Ham Essex VIEW MASON, Mitalda Daughter F 11 1840 West Ham Essex VIEW MASON, George Son M 6 1845 West Ham Essex VIEW MASON, Julia Daughter F 3 1848 West Ham Essex VIEW MASON, Maria Daughter F 1 1850 West Ham Essex VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: HO107 Piece: 1768 Folio: 336 Page: 24 Registration District: West Ham Sub District: West Ham Enumeration District: 1A Ecclesiastical Parish: All Saints Civil Parish: West Ham Municipal Borough: Address: Church Street, West Ham, Church Street County: Essex
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Patricia
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2 Jun 2010 15:10 |
Have got his birth and baptism copies from Ancestry, and I am sarisfied it is the right one. P
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Patricia
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2 Jun 2010 15:08 |
Fantastic help thank you all so much. Patricia
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LondonBelle
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2 Jun 2010 15:04 |
Have you got George Louis's birth certificate?
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jax
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2 Jun 2010 15:03 |
You will have to purchase birth certificates to find out who his mother was the baptism I gave you also ties up with the rest
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Mary
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2 Jun 2010 15:01 |
1851 west ham D 1a image 24 Frederick mason 1812 stone mason born Hertfordshire Elizabth 1812 Colchester Essex Frederick 1836 west ham.
Maryb
Very close to where Hannah Hunter is in 1851.
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Sue In Yorkshire.
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2 Jun 2010 15:00 |
This is Frederick in 1861 census,,,,
1861 census - household transcription Person: MASON, Frederick Address: 23, Hayfield Place, Stepney Cost: You will be charged 5 credits for a transcript and 5 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records. census search results 1861 address search redefine current search Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born Original census image
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MASON, Frederick Head Married M 25 1836 Housemaker Laundress West Leake Essex VIEW MASON, Hannah Wife Married F 24 1837 West Leake Essex VIEW MASON, Frederick Son M 2 1859 West Ham Sussex VIEW MASON, Elizabeth Daughter F 0 (5M) 1861 West Leake Essex VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG09 Piece: 294 Folio: 37 Page: 21 Registration District: Mile End Old Town Sub District: 2 Mile End Old Town Eastern Enumeration District: 2 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Stepney Municipal Borough: Address: 23, Hayfield Place, Stepney County: London, Middlesex
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Patricia
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2 Jun 2010 15:00 |
yes I have that census and I think it may be him, but I want to prove it.Patricia.
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